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Posted by jimmyfuh0717 on Sep-16-2012 09:13:

Sneaker Pimp Why does dance music only have fifth chords (power chords) most of the time?

I see that in most dance music, there's only fifth chords. For example, they have C5 (C,G) instead of C (C, E, G). Why is it that they don't use a fuller sounding chord like C or C7, etc?


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Sep-16-2012 09:57:

I think you may need to listen to more dance music.


Posted by maximlee on Sep-19-2012 07:11:

Re: Why does dance music only have fifth chords (power chords) most of the time?

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Originally posted by jimmyfuh0717
I see that in most dance music, there's only fifth chords. For example, they have C5 (C,G) instead of C (C, E, G). Why is it that they don't use a fuller sounding chord like C or C7, etc?


i get were your coming from... fifth chords have more impact and dont take up as much space in mix. to say there are only fifth chords is wrong thou. The main problem i find with alot of trance producers is, they think to much theory and they write music by rules... o i must have this and i must use fifth chords... Do what sounds good.. get a chord progression and see if it works with melody bassline etc.. then add or take away notes if need be.


Posted by wayfinder on Sep-19-2012 11:15:

what are you talking about

please show me this overabundance of fifths


Posted by Storyteller on Sep-19-2012 13:59:

Pick just about any Storyteller track


Posted by trancedanne on Sep-19-2012 16:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
Pick just about any Storyteller track


You older stuff is fucking incredible before you changed style, i have pretty much every track in the IPOD.


Posted by Storyteller on Sep-19-2012 17:04:

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Originally posted by trancedanne
You older stuff is fucking incredible before you changed style, i have pretty much every track in the IPOD.

Would you mind telling me what changed for you (and when)? Just curious.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Sep-19-2012 20:58:

quickly glanced at a few tracks. Don't really hear any sort of prevalence of perfect 5ths.

There is a good reason you don't hear it in most tracks. Dance leads use saw waves, the 5th is more or less filled out by the overtone series.


Posted by trancedanne on Sep-19-2012 22:37:

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Originally posted by Storyteller
Would you mind telling me what changed for you (and when)? Just curious.


I think from 2011 and forward it sounded different, more up to date i guess... I thought your tracks had such a unique old school feeling in them. The percussions were amazing, verry atmospheric & deep, your trademark kick always worked perfectly with the bassline. Music like this isn't made today, except from Timewave, MSZ, Kay-D and a few others maybe


Posted by MSZ on Sep-19-2012 23:09:

lol glad i caught ur post trancedanne. its kind of funny, not only am I making niche shit, but im making niche shit within a niche. There isnt a lot of people that care for this old school prog sound, but there are a handful of people on TA that do. Basically its dead and dying. No more releases for me after 2013, so add another nail to the coffin. I've had my fun making throwback shit(and non).

btw check out MSZ - Circulation



you want it? ill give it to you after release.

Maybe we'll one day see a resurgence, im not holding my breath lmfao. Now off I go slave away at work.


Posted by trancedanne on Sep-20-2012 22:33:

Thats another great tune, verry deep!
My favorite production must be your remix Javanny-Dreamcatcher, such a fantastic music journey from start to finish. The breakdown with the 303 sounds is fucking insane, how often do you hear sounds like that today?
It really sucks that music like this doesn't get more recognition, i hope you continue on despite this. Otherwise it wont be much worth listening to anymore = /


Posted by MSZ on Sep-21-2012 12:36:

Its so much more enjoyable listening to music, than producing it; lol...(for me) Thankfully producers like timewave and kay-d dont seem to be slowing down, I know kay-d has a growing family, and he still finds some time to write amazing tracks. Im done with msz project, I only have a few releases that are waiting for release, and maybe one more final collaboration with "Cut Knob" music.

Joof and mistique are fostering a lot of artists, which is a great sign. People can complain a lot about the quality over time, but they're doing an amazing thing(a great service imo), its sometimes hard to see to the naive connoisseurs of music, if they even do purchase.(hopefully)

There isnt a lot of support for young producers these days, I thank guys involved from the bottom of my heart. The people running these sects deserve more growth; not only because of their envolvement behind the scenes, but their passion, the tracks they write are top level, and have been for a long time.


Posted by PlasticSoul on Sep-26-2012 00:03:

Re: Why does dance music only have fifth chords (power chords) most of the time?

quote:
Originally posted by jimmyfuh0717
I see that in most dance music, there's only fifth chords. For example, they have C5 (C,G) instead of C (C, E, G). Why is it that they don't use a fuller sounding chord like C or C7, etc?


not "only", but there are lots, some points:

- you can use the major/minor pentatonic scale, its easier create chord progressions without thinking so much about a chord being major or minor...
- its powerful, classic use: detroit techno, house stabs, etc...
- heavy rock use it too, the called "power chords"...


Posted by DJ RANN on Sep-26-2012 00:37:

quote:
Originally posted by MSZ
Its so much more enjoyable listening to music, than producing it; lol...(for me) Thankfully producers like timewave and kay-d dont seem to be slowing down, I know kay-d has a growing family, and he still finds some time to write amazing tracks. Im done with msz project, I only have a few releases that are waiting for release, and maybe one more final collaboration with "Cut Knob" music.


That's a shame, there's a lot of people on here and out there that really enjoy your sound and I'm not sure if you're doing the right thing. Trends come and go - I remember Joof playing on the underground circuit for years in London until he got noticed and his form a trance finally came in to vogue. A lot of people then said a few years later that his sound was dead but he is still doing well and it comes and goes. It all cycles.

quote:
Originally posted by MSZ
Joof and mistique are fostering a lot of artists, which is a great sign. People can complain a lot about the quality over time, but they're doing an amazing thing(a great service imo), its sometimes hard to see to the naive connoisseurs of music, if they even do purchase.(hopefully)

There isnt a lot of support for young producers these days, I thank guys involved from the bottom of my heart. The people running these sects deserve more growth; not only because of their envolvement behind the scenes, but their passion, the tracks they write are top level, and have been for a long time.


This kind of deserves it own thread. What happened to the majors should be a moral tale; they abandoned the development deal years ago and are paying the price now. I know the band who literally got the last development deal that universal ever signed, and they've had several global No.1 songs, and they swear if it were not for that deal they never would have made it, or all that money for the label.
Now big labels just pick up the scraps from people who have already had exposure and there's no loyalty towards labels so acts just go to whoever will pay the most, meaning both the label and the artist get fucked in the long term (as the new label isn't interested about the long term prospects for the artist or their catalogue).

I think the labels and big artists who nurture new talent will be the ones that do well - it's always been the way and the shortsightedness of the other model is simply disposable.



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