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Posted by DJ RANN on Jul-20-2014 00:43:

New Pioneer PLX-1000 Turntable

I can't believe this hasn't been posted yet, but here it is:

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/P...ntable/PLX-1000



quote:
OVERVIEW
The DJ quality PLX-1000 direct drive analog turntable is designed for DJs who enjoy the look, feel, and performance of vinyl for music playback. The model offers a highly familiar, user-friendly control layout, high-torque direct drive mechanism, and exceptional audio playback quality. Combine the PLX-1000 with a Pioneer professional series DJM mixer for an ideal system for true vinyl enthusiasts.

USER-FRIENDLY CONTROL LAYOUT
The PLX-1000 provides a user friendly layout familiar to top DJs of the past and present, providing quick tempo control capability on the right side of the player, start/stop button on the left side, and a high-torque platter with a lighted speed guide

HIGH-TORQUE DIRECT DRIVE SYSTEM
The direct drive mechanism of the PLX-1000 provides high-torque resulting in stable rotation and exceptional control. The turntable can achieve a starting torque of at least 4.5kg/cm and can reach its fixed rotation speed within 0.3 seconds (at 33 1/3 rpm).

SOUND QUALITY DESIGN
To create an extremely stable player and prevent vibration, Pioneer utilized a heavy-mass zinc die-cast chassis for the top section of the player, reinforced with a bottom section made of 8-mm thick resin. The base of the unit was further enforced with 9-mm thick vibration-damping material that results in extremely stable playback. The tone arm also received great attention in build quality and design to maximize performance, using rubber insulation to minimize howling effects during audio playback. The RCA jacks feature gold-plated machine-cut parts for low impedance for excellent sound quality output.


Read the sales blurb. Seems like they copied the technics design verbatim, added RCA sockets in place of soldered cables, using IEC for power, put some rubber in the tonearm and gave you three pitch ranges, for $700.

Not sure if it's enough to convince me they're doing anything other than re-inventing the Technics wheel.


Posted by PaULiN0 on Jul-20-2014 02:52:

Yeah there was a discussion on it awhile back here.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...72&forumid=8&s=


Posted by Guest on Jul-20-2014 14:17:

Well, according to internet specs, a 1210 weighs approximately 26.4 pounds and this new PLX-1000 weighs 28.88 pounds. So I guess that rules out any plastic inside the Pioneer?


Posted by PaULiN0 on Jul-21-2014 19:29:

I guess the usb hype was bs.


Posted by PaULiN0 on Jul-21-2014 19:55:

If you read in the first article the main hype was that you can integrate it with record box.


Posted by PaULiN0 on Jul-21-2014 20:20:

quote:
Originally posted by clay
to be able to do what?


What else, time code control


Posted by PaULiN0 on Jul-21-2014 21:55:

Well a usb option would eliminate the use of an interface like (A/6/10 or SL 3/4 if there was one already built in the turntable. Shorter signal path and less cables. Plus the option of using your own RCA's and your own power cord is a plus.


Posted by PaULiN0 on Jul-21-2014 22:06:

I mentioned earlier that the turntable would need an interface (soundcard) with usb but no high end brand has done it yet except for the insanely audiophile versions which are not for dj consumer which was the feature i was expecting with the pioneer. The mixer being analog or digital wouldn't matter if the signal coming from the turntable with soundcard already converted to an analog signal


Posted by PaULiN0 on Jul-21-2014 22:12:

A usb stick feature and link like on teh cdj would be sick on plx.

Buh bye serato, traktor.


Posted by PaULiN0 on Jul-21-2014 22:20:

Technology is evolving these days, i'm sure there will be a heavy duty hybrid turntable but there's one without sound card and its the reloop one which is midi based.


Posted by PaULiN0 on Jul-21-2014 22:28:

The point of midi for the reloop usb option is that you can map features on serato or traktor to your turntable nothing to do with ac motor.


Posted by PaULiN0 on Jul-21-2014 22:41:

Well i didn't know a turntable uses midi signals for pitch but i'm still right about the reloop feature.

Oh and that wasn't the point of the earlier discussion.


Posted by PaULiN0 on Jul-21-2014 22:54:

Oh I knew that hahha, I just couldn't put together what you typed correctly, FYI it does matter to have proper grammar and punctuation because saves so much time on debating or having discussions on something. Everyone can understand you correctly.


Posted by PaULiN0 on Jul-21-2014 22:59:

Here's what I was talking about. I'm sure it would be useful to some djs.

http://www.reloop.com/reloop-rp-8000

Anyway enough with midi i agree that its a dumb feature like loading a track onto a another deck when you do with the laptop.

Imo its just step forward toward to new things.


Posted by PaULiN0 on Jul-21-2014 23:00:

Palm your like TA's internet Mime LOL like itsmemario.


Posted by PaULiN0 on Jul-21-2014 23:11:

It plays 100% analog vinyl bro

Shit is heavy duty.


Posted by PaULiN0 on Jul-21-2014 23:29:

Shit is hybrid.


Posted by miamitranceman on Jul-22-2014 21:34:

quote:
Originally posted by clay
a heavy duty dj turntable is made to play back vinyl 100% analog. not timecode for mp3 computer djeing, that route was a mistake from the start. either go analog (turntable and mixer), or digital (cdj timecode, PC mp3/wav). not something in between where you get the worst of both worlds, the shitty sound of mp3 and PC lagging, and the shitty engine of a turntable as well as unstabile usb.


I don't think it was a mistake. It was an evolution. It helped transition a lot of old school vinyl users to the digital age without giving up the look and feel of a vinyl turntable.


Posted by DJ RANN on Jul-23-2014 00:34:

I'm with Paulino on this one;

Pioneer had the option to go further and do timecode control turntable. The Reloop model did do it, but reloop are really crap as a company (I used to service some of their stuff) and secondly choices they made for parts like the tonearm and buttons were not smart.

Granted it's only $799 and when you put it in to perspective that the new Pioneer one is $100 less and doesn't do a fraction of what the Reloop does, the pioneer starts looking like really bad value and the reloop starts to look like quite the bargain.

And this is where I think Pioneer have completely missed the mark:

Removable Power cable. Wow.
Removable RCAs. Golly.
2 lbs heavier. Great.
Rubber inside the tone arm. Amazing.
CDJ style start/stop button. gosh.

The removable cables are nice for installers but I plug my techs in and out maybe once a year. The weight difference won't mean anything. Rubber inside the tonearm? There may be some engineering merit to it but honestly, I'd prefer the Technics tonearm which is the best. CDJ start button? We know how those hold up to abuse.

Now combine that with the fact it's made by Pioneer who don't make either the best sounding or the best lasting kit, you get all this for $700.

The missed a massive chance here; They should have made a timecode turntable. By that I don't mean midi (both MTC and MMC are awful for time based control for anything precise) - they should have made it stream control data (Serato or Traktor) and then it would have been a serious contender.

This crap? Nothing more than a marginal difference to Techs but I trust Technics' build quality and not pioneer's.


Posted by PaULiN0 on Jul-23-2014 00:43:

Not that its a big feature but can be useful that I like thats on both reloop and pioneer is no grounding cable. That thingy breaks real easily.


Posted by DJ RANN on Jul-26-2014 00:03:

quote:
Originally posted by PaULiN0
Not that its a big feature but can be useful that I like thats on both reloop and pioneer is no grounding cable. That thingy breaks real easily.


Why do people keep saying this? The ground cable only breaks if you forget to unplug it and move the turntable.

Otherwise it's only a 20min mod to internally ground the unit.


Posted by PaULiN0 on Jul-26-2014 01:47:

Because it breaks easily and um majority of djs don't do mods, they just dj.


Posted by DJ RANN on Jul-31-2014 02:14:

quote:
Originally posted by PaULiN0
Because it breaks easily and um majority of djs don't do mods, they just dj.


Please explain how it breaks easily? I've owned 6 pairs of different technics (Mk2's, M3d's, Mk5g's) over the last 16 years, moved twice back and forth over the Atlantic and have never had one break on me.

It only breaks if you forget to unscrew it and move the turntable where upon the 26lbs of 1210 will snap that cable.

Other that that, it does not break.

Sure DJ's don't do mods, but show me a decent mixer that does not have the ground hookup. Why is it so difficult? I just don't get it.


Posted by PaULiN0 on Jul-31-2014 20:06:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Please explain how it breaks easily? I've owned 6 pairs of different technics (Mk2's, M3d's, Mk5g's) over the last 16 years, moved twice back and forth over the Atlantic and have never had one break on me.

It only breaks if you forget to unscrew it and move the turntable where upon the 26lbs of 1210 will snap that cable.

Other that that, it does not break.

Sure DJ's don't do mods, but show me a decent mixer that does not have the ground hookup. Why is it so difficult? I just don't get it.


If your moving your turntable around because you got a new table or whatever, you step on it and move and plow your done. You pill on it to hard and it can breaks. Its not like an rca cable. Its one of the skinniest un durable cable ever that could be used. How can you see not break its common sense.


Posted by junkproject on Jul-31-2014 20:28:

quote:
Originally posted by PaULiN0
Oh I knew that hahha, I just couldn't put together what you typed correctly, FYI it does matter to have proper grammar and punctuation because saves so much time on debating or having discussions on something. Everyone can understand you correctly.


quote:
Originally posted by PaULiN0
If your moving your turntable around because you got a new table or whatever, you step on it and move and plow your done. You pill on it to hard and it can breaks. Its not like an rca cable. Its one of the skinniest un durable cable ever that could be used. How can you see not break its common sense.


Lmao


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