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i am tired of being accused of using presets

like 85 to 90 percent of my song's are all initialized and crafted by me, the main lead is definitely , because i feel like thats a strong part of the song writing process, and setting a mood, its just as personal as you know the melody or whatever it's your own !

and these kids be listening to your music, and don't know that, i constantly get messages about what preset pack or whatever I'm using , and it bothers me . I am tired of reiterating myself lol

like when you hear showtek, you know thats showtek , theres no pack you can download on loopmasters unless somebody tries to recreate their thing and release it as a novelty thing

well i want people to know when you hear lovehate, thats lovehate!

Say what?!? You are not using presets?!? Not sure if I ever listened to your tracks anyway who are those kids that bother you? At least you've got a few kids that appearantly take the effort to communicate with you.

All daw VST samplebased music sounds the same and you get buried by "new releases" of every bob and their uncle daily.... only thing that seperates the men from the boys is style and arrangement. No one cares about "me too EDM" And if you dialed in that cutoff yourself, or if value 91 of cc#1 was your personal touch......

Sounds more lke attention whoring to me

WTF is this? People that matter don't care whether you're using presets or not (hint - they don't even know what a preset is), people that care don't matter.
Grow a thicker skin.

Was there any point in this thread or are you just whining?

Re: i am tired of being accused of using presets

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Originally posted by LoveHate like 85 to 90 percent of my song's are all initialized and crafted by me, the main lead is definitely , because i feel like thats a strong part of the song writing process, and setting a mood, its just as personal as you know the melody or whatever it's your own ! and these kids be listening to your music, and don't know that, i constantly get messages about what preset pack or whatever I'm using , and it bothers me . I am tired of reiterating myself lol like when you hear showtek, you know thats showtek , theres no pack you can download on loopmasters unless somebody tries to recreate their thing and release it as a novelty thing well i want people to know when you hear lovehate, thats lovehate!

I'm lol so what (to some extend of course) - for me this is not about sound creation contest but music creation process/art.

Darek

Nothing wrong with using presets.

I make quite a few of the patches I use in my music but I also use my fair share of presets because its pointless trying to reinvent the wheel.

Who cares? Painters rarely make their own paints. Nobody complains that a guitarist didn't build their own instrument.

Do your music the way you want to do your music. It succeeds or fails as art on its own merits, not the uninformed opinions of people who don't know what they're talking about.

I could care less if someone uses a preset.

If anything, I love it when I hear a good track and the relaize the creative way they have made that preset fit in to the track.

Anyone who criticizes using a preset is usually a amateur producer who knows just enough to be dangerous.

It's like setting up a digital desk every single time you got to do a mix down. Aside from the repeat to learn aspect, once you know it, there's no point spending the time setting up the desk again, when you can just recall the setup as a preset.

Same with patches. It's bullshit purist idealism to beleive you have to hand craft every patch you use. What's the fucking point if someone has already done it for you?

I'm actually trying to make a remix of a big 1998 track right now only using presets. It's a lot of fun....

I make my own synth patches most of the time and, guess what? They usually end up sounding like...uhhh.....well,...presets.

The problem here is the whole myth of "originality" in EDM. First, most electronic music these days is not very original or groundbreaking - it's just as formulaic (if not more so) than just about any other genre. Second, how many times have heard people say that you're cheating if you're not making your own presets or using loops. Then, you go listen to all those people's music and, sure enough, their oh-so-original-sounds that they are making or using sound just like all those unoriginal loops and presets. Yay for originality.

Sure, there's pride in creating your own sounds and often times it's a lot more efficient to make something yourself than it is to pore through a million loops or presets hoping to find what you're looking for. But, you can't expect people to take as much pride in your work as you do.

But, I see the OP's point. He spends a lot of time on making his own sounds, has pride in it, but people hear it and just assume that he's using presets because: (a) they probably don't make music themselves and just assume that the computer does most of the work (sometimes not far from the truth), or (b) they do know that he made his own music but assume that he used presets because the sounds that he made for his music sound like...uhhh.....well,...presets.

Never gets old

music doesnt sell itself. This goes for every band artist dj producer whatever. How many followers do you have. Have you established a fan base ? If you are relying on beatport, well beaetport exists for rankings so clubs know how much to charge a dj. Thats it. beatport has no relevance than providing an intangible act some legitimacy,

I only use presets for texture pads and some melodies here and there, my 02..

"I only use presets when I feel like it."

Not that it matters. There is nothing wrong with using presets. There is nothing extra-right about not using them.

The end result is what matters, not the route you took to get there. Does the end result sound the way you want it to? Then good.

Im at the point where if someone made the best song in the world with vengeance loops I would respect it.

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Originally posted by djnitride Im at the point where if someone made the best song in the world with vengeance loops I would respect it.

I remember using a loop once and admitted then got pretty much flamed so w/e

Now with that they think i use all the time now and attack me with that, my god lol.

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Originally posted by Innocence Lost I remember using a loop once and admitted then got pretty much flamed so w/e Now with that they think i use all the time now and attack me with that, my god lol.

I think the music should always speak for itself. If you have a unique process that is different than others it will show. If you do the exact same thing to make the same sounds as common presets, it means jack shit if you didn't use a preset or not because the end result is the same.

There is nothing wrong with using a loop if it works for a song. I personally find loops can be a nice starting point for a song that I come in and replace later. I feel like being tempo / key locked isn't a tradeoff I am personally ok with for my music so they won't make it into the final product ever.

Juan, what I am saying is it doesn't make you a bad person if you used a loop. Anyone who says that has some serious confidence problems / a stick up their ass. Just my two cents

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Originally posted by djnitride I think the music should always speak for itself. If you have a unique process that is different than others it will show. If you do the exact same thing to make the same sounds as common presets, it means jack shit if you didn't use a preset or not because the end result is the same. There is nothing wrong with using a loop if it works for a song. I personally find loops can be a nice starting point for a song that I come in and replace later. I feel like being tempo / key locked isn't a tradeoff I am personally ok with for my music so they won't make it into the final product ever. Juan, what I am saying is it doesn't make you a bad person if you used a loop. Anyone who says that has some serious confidence problems / a stick up their ass. Just my two cents

Yeah I def agree about the content should show for itself an all but I haven't made a wip yet now that I re calibrated my monitors and now back apple logic instead of windows. So Ima try to put something different instead.

What I don't like in the OP, is that it someway implies your* music is relevant
As if
1. you actually have listeners
2. These bothered to contact you
3. And are fully educated on all the latest and greatest preset packs

The whole topic is just laughable pittyful attention whoring...

GROW UP!

*can be replaced with "my" or anyone else in this godforsaken subforum

I use presets. I love using presets. They're usually better than what I can make. Therefore I use them.

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Originally posted by aquila I use presets. I love using presets. They're usually better than what I can make. Therefore I use them.

yes, but you are actually talented

Did you know that sandstorm was made using a preset on the JP8080?

Yeahhhh. Don't let people tell you what sound you can and can't use.

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Originally posted by Raphie The whole topic is just laughable pittyful attention whoring... GROW UP!

Same could be said to people who post pictures in a studio thread of the new car they have just bought for the Mrs.

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Originally posted by Andy28 Same could be said to people who post pictures in a studio thread of the new car they have just bought for the Mrs.

that's about sharing, not moaning

Re: i am tired of being accused of using presets

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Originally posted by LoveHate like 85 to 90 percent of my song's

Where are all these songs?

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