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NI Maschine / drum machines

Pretty tiresome process recently trying to put a track together, can�t seem to build any groove, sick of drawing in midi notes into ableton

So I�m thinking of trying something different, anybody got any thoughts on drum machines? I was thinking of NI Maschine as an option, I think i can have individual tracks in Live with it, have to check that
I like the layout of Maschine versus Ableton Push...i was watching a recent video of Ian Pooley doing some beats on an MPC, just looked so cool jamming on that

Any other options? It�s a shame the new Roland TR-09 looks so fiddly plus no individual outs?

If you like the idea of Maschine it's probably not a bad solution. They seem to go dirt cheap second hand too.

You can assign Maschine to 16 separate outputs which can then be routed to discrete channels within Live.

I haven't used one for years and didn't get into it because it's kind of like a DAW within a DAW, but it does seem they've improved the workflow a lot over the years.

Thanks man, gonna keep looking at different options, not in any rush really

🦉 Don't see why you need a drum machine just to tap out some beats. A keyboard usually suffices--it's easy to remember keymapings for General Midi drums. You don't like using MIDI drum files or sample loops + a drum replacer plugin? Behringer's 909 clone would be a good choice however those pads are not so good for jamming on as it's designed more for the quick creation of step patterns. Wouldn't mind one myself but I'm leaning more towards Roland's TR-8S or Rytm.

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Originally posted by Mel David 🦉 Don't see why you need a drum machine just to tap out some beats. A keyboard usually suffices--it's easy to remember keymapings for General Midi drums. You don't like using MIDI drum files or sample loops + a drum replacer plugin? Behringer's 909 clone would be a good choice however those pads are not so good for jamming on as it's designed more for the quick creation of step patterns. Wouldn't mind one myself but I'm leaning more towards Roland's TR-8S or Rytm.

Hi, yeah i have a keyboard with pads but they�re just not the best (can�t remember keyboard name atm) guess i just want to get out of the computer a bit

Did not realise behringer were doing a 909 clone I�ll look into that, thank you!

🐻 I meant use the black & white keys to jam rather than drum pads. I prefer the black fascia of Behringer's 808 clone but I like 909 drums more than 808, except for the 808 kick drum which is prevalent in hip-hop & drum n bass. That 909 kick is essential for most forms of dance. Since the older model Roland TR-8 (without sample import) is half price now it does make it hard to choose though you're getting both 808 & 909 samples. But then you also learn there is the MC-101 or 707, the SP-404 (DJs choice) & the Model:Samples, so buyer anxiety increases tenfold. Yeah spoilt for choice really.

Maybe this. I must have missed it in the dirge of NAMM videos.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqNwz9b0o6U

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Originally posted by tehlord Maybe this. I must have missed it in the dirge of NAMM videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqNwz9b0o6U

that's the manufacturer of the midi keyboard i have, it has drum pads which i hate so yeah, probably not for me

Just been on gearslutz recently for first time in ages, so many new products have been released so im catching up, the Behringer 909 remake is exciting!

I will probably sell my Dominion 1, never really gelled with it. I see MFB have an 8 voice poly coming out which does sound really good but not sure i like that MFB sound at the end of the day

Is your Dominion 1 fully functional? I know a couple of people who bought them and they broke pretty quickly.

I have a TR8-S here that's surplus to requirements.

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Originally posted by tehlord Is your Dominion 1 fully functional? I know a couple of people who bought them and they broke pretty quickly. I have a TR8-S here that's surplus to requirements.

No way? I always thought it was built like a tank, what exactly broke on theirs?

Tuning went, pots broke, buttons ceased to function and outputs went crispy. Actually, some of those were Tanzbars, but two had issues with Dominion 1's as well.

Sounds like you have a good one!

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Originally posted by tehlord Tuning went, pots broke, buttons ceased to function and outputs went crispy. Actually, some of those were Tanzbars, but two had issues with Dominion 1's as well. Sounds like you have a good one!

woah, that's the first I've heard of issues with them - have not noticed any problems with this one at all, then again I couldn't say it was heavily used

I recently got the Akai Force for my drums and it�s now quickly becoming the centerpiece of my studio. Super intuitive, plus Ableton Live integration is awesome, syncs with Ableton Link and it can totally control Live. And you can even install an ssd for up to 2tb of storage on the unit, loving it.

🐻 This Nektar Aura looks pretty mang.



https://nektartech.com/nektar-aura-beat-composer/

Goon from NI forums has this to say: Aura is great for Drum sequencing, Maschine is a better all rounder, with a software package that hits the spot. The Aura only comes with Nektarine, which is similar in concept to Komplete Kontrol, but it is clunky and takes some working out. the Aura does have the onboard sequencer which is very very powerful, but you will need to transfer that to your DAW at some point. I cannot comment on DAW integration yet, as Nektar are still working on DAW integration for LIVE which I use.

🐻 Small factor drum unit from UNO

I got the Maschine mk3 in the end, still getting to grips with the basics but it's cool so far!

🦉 Last year I was considering getting a drum machine but I ended up getting a Traktor Kontrol S2 instead. Figured I can use the pads like a drum machine anyhow. If I had the dosh I'd get a workstation keyboard. Always loved that way of working. Another option. Trackers.



🐻 Beat jamming must feel good on ultra-responsive Sanwa buttons. I want one but it's a non-essential so I'm not getting one.

I swear by my Digitakt these days. Such a potent and inspiring little box. Great DAW integration with Overbridge too.

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Originally posted by Teezdalien I swear by my Digitakt these days. Such a potent and inspiring little box. Great DAW integration with Overbridge too.

Woah, hey mate

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Originally posted by Sushipunk Woah, hey mate

Hey Stu! Hope you're well man. Gonna try being more active around here again!

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Originally posted by Teezdalien Hey Stu! Hope you're well man. Gonna try being more active around here again!

Yeah, I'm good! It'll be nice to see you around these parts again. Hope you're well too. You still down in Melbourne?

Ah great to hear. Yes, still in Melbz. Life is pretty good considering the times! Haven't been too affected really. Spend most of my spare time home working on music and stuff anyway, and work has been pretty consistent, so my routine hasn't changed too much.

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Originally posted by Teezdalien Ah great to hear. Yes, still in Melbz. Life is pretty good considering the times! Haven't been too affected really. Spend most of my spare time home working on music and stuff anyway, and work has been pretty consistent, so my routine hasn't changed too much.

Thankfully I haven't been too badly affected here either, but everything is still pretty fucking weird, lol.

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Originally posted by BigTonka Trying not to intervene here but have you guys checked out the new Roland Groove Boxes?

That thing looks and sounds really good. But holy shit! The price! I guess if money aint a issue then why not?

I put together a video recently outlining how I set-up and sequence with the Digitakt/Overbridge system inside Bitwig Studio. It's not a flawless integration but works pretty well in most respects.

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