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Your dream unreleased find(s) from Sasha sets 1990-2010

If you could walk into a magic shop and at your command any track Sasha played from these years that was never could be yours at the flick of a wand what tracks would you ask for?

Obviously THAT version of Medway - Bassline track is one for me.

There's probably a gazillion ID's and edited versions of tunes that can't come to mind right now however, I do remember one in particular. In the NYE 1997 mix on Triple J with Digweed, there's a great version of Slacker's your face that I have never heard since nor can I find it anywhere. Starts at roughly 1 hr 27 mins.




I'll probably edit this post as I'm almost certain I'll have more contributions.

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Originally posted by SPANIARD There's probably a gazillion ID's and edited versions of tunes that can't come to mind right now however, I do remember one in particular. In the NYE 1997 mix on Triple J with Digweed, there's a great version of Slacker's your face that I have never heard since nor can I find it anywhere. Starts at roughly 1 hr 27 mins. I'll probably edit this post as I'm almost certain I'll have more contributions.

Ahh the dub mix. Yes I know of this one, not usually a fan of slacker but this one has grown on me.

Honestly, I don't care about this stuff anymore. Lusting over some obscure prog record from 1997 might have made sense when prog was a finite resource like northern soul, and old records were the only way to get more of it. These days there's twenty great new tunes released every month that you don't have to hunt down like Moby Dick to get hold of.

Chasing people around on Discogs for years on end trying to get a slightly different version of a track as played out as The Baseline Track is an endeavour for the obsessive collectors and I've never been one of those.

Before this gets out of hand, I wanna say the- sixth and system-j have both done a lot for the online dance community. I hope we can agree to disagree.

It's not going to get out of hand, don't worry Matt. Aydrean has spent a hell of a lot of money and energy over the years doing what he does and he's got a reputation in the extremely niche scene that is the prog house classics community as the collector's collector. I'm sure that brings him plenty of satisfaction that's not going to be diminished by anything I say.

For me, I thought about this question and basically realised I don't obsess over classics sets like I used to 5+ years ago. I'll buy oldies if I can get hold of them easily enough, but it's just a fundamentally different landscape now.

No issue for me at all guys,

I actually agree anyone with sense (and a bigger bank balance) has let go of these things a long time ago

Still curious about the ones people did want at the time that never made it if you do recall

My wife and I will forever love Sasha and Digweed. Sasha's actually playing this weekend at an Anjunadeep day show (no babysitter = no go for us). Although their old mixes and tracks are nostalgic, I can only handle a few minutes before boredom sets in. There's this moment of "Yes! Honey! Do you remember this track?!?!" to "Okay, I'm done. What's for dinner."

BUT if Sasha or Diggers were to throw down one of their classic tracks during a live set/show we're attending, you know I'm going APE SHIT over it!!

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J It's not going to get out of hand, don't worry Matt. Aydrean has spent a hell of a lot of money and energy over the years doing what he does and he's got a reputation in the extremely niche scene that is the prog house classics community as the collector's collector. I'm sure that brings him plenty of satisfaction that's not going to be diminished by anything I say. For me, I thought about this question and basically realised I don't obsess over classics sets like I used to 5+ years ago. I'll buy oldies if I can get hold of them easily enough, but it's just a fundamentally different landscape now.

My bad, I didn't mean to make a snarky comment. You obviously didn't have ill intentions when responding to this thread.

I'm not gonna pretend I've been hunting down unknown ID's for years, but the last track in this set was pretty dope:

https://youtu.be/Bx_T9On3fno?si=w1oTd3zLO5quY8ZF

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Originally posted by Mattsanity My bad, I didn't mean to make a snarky comment. You obviously didn't have ill intentions when responding to this thread. I'm not gonna pretend I've been hunting down unknown ID's for years, but the last track in this set was pretty dope: https://youtu.be/Bx_T9On3fno?si=w1oTd3zLO5quY8ZF

Wonder no longer

Sentinel - Reflection [Logic Records - LOC 304]

I suppose if there's one lost release I would like to come to light, it would be Paul Van Dyk's final album for MFS that was never released. Sasha and Digweed were playing the original promo version of Avenue in '97 which PVD had to re-record in full to get around the copyright dispute, and tracklists suggest one of the IDs at the end of Digweed's Gainsville set in 1997 was another track from that album.

I was never much of a fan of Out There And Back, and it would be interesting to know if the album-that-never-was would be more in keeping with PVD's sound around '97.

But then, I remember reading about BT and Sasha collaborating with Peter Gabriel in 1998 on an ambient world music album that was never released and thinking it would have sounded amazing if it ever saw the light of day. Then some of the promo tracks ended up YouTube and they're just... a bit naff: https://www.discogs.com/release/151...Rn1vpKvG_yjrphv

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J one of the IDs at the end of Digweed's Gainsville set in 1997 was another track from that album.

That one turned out not to be a PVD track, but one hidden on a Goa CD. The producer did release on MFS however so perhaps Paul gave it to John along with his album stuff?

Anyway the track is this one

Damn the-sixth is just going to end up IDing stuff we all thought were lost causes

Contrary to J I continue to obsess autistically over the circa 98-02 era stuff & want to know everything (and still discover good records I missed previously). I'm generally a little jealous at the few guys who apparently have the means and opportunities to buy shitloads of acetates from DJs and other insiders. I do own a bunch of rare test pressings/white labels some of which were on big name turntables long ago, but nothing that special. If I had to pick one title though, I'd gladly take a cut of Junkie XL - Red / Heat, the very long versions.

On a side note, I do think that Spaniard's "gazillion ID's" reflects a somewhat overly romantic view of Sasha and his peers' sets from the golden years. I think we know most (with regard to recorded sets, to be sure), and what remains to be ID'd will likely turn out to be nothing very special.

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Originally posted by Midlothian Contrary to J I continue to obsess autistically over the circa 98-02 era stuff & want to know everything (and still discover good records I missed previously). I'm generally a little jealous at the few guys who apparently have the means and opportunities to buy shitloads of acetates from DJs and other insiders. I do own a bunch of rare test pressings/white labels some of which were on big name turntables long ago, but nothing that special. If I had to pick one title though, I'd gladly take a cut of Junkie XL - Red / Heat, the very long versions. On a side note, I do think that Spaniard's "gazillion ID's" reflects a somewhat overly romantic view of Sasha and his peers' sets from the golden years. I think we know most (with regard to recorded sets, to be sure), and what remains to be ID'd will likely turn out to be nothing very special.

I had that slate a few years back, feel free to DM me

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Originally posted by Midlothian I do own a bunch of rare test pressings/white labels some of which were on big name turntables long ago, but nothing that special.

Just curious if there is any dollar value to these rare record tracks? I remember a long time ago (2001?), a record shop was selling an early white label Sasha track for like $40+. Out of my budget unfortunately. I remember after listening, the record store clerk carefully picked up the label and returned it the safe shelf it was being stored at.

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Originally posted by Midlothian On a side note, I do think that Spaniard's "gazillion ID's" reflects a somewhat overly romantic view of Sasha and his peers' sets from the golden years. I think we know most (with regard to recorded sets, to be sure), and what remains to be ID'd will likely turn out to be nothing very special.

I can't speak for everyone here but to clarify, I guesstimated the amount of ID's completely arbitrarily. It could be that once I do a thorough inspection, there's maybe 10 ID's between Sasha and Digweed that I really want. I can't say because I'm not going to look through my archives.

Most of the best tracks I've heard Sasha play have already been IDed or are versions of those tracks that I'll probably never have. Even the tracks that I would want IDed probably won't sound as good as when I first heard them in Sasha's set so I'm not overly enthused to go searching.

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Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal Just curious if there is any dollar value to these rare record tracks?

Well, every time a seller decides that the fact he has the only copy up for sale is a good reason to set a ridiculous $$$ for it, causing any subsequent seller of the same record to follow his lead ... shitting up the Discogs marketplace.

I remember years ago I received a message out of the blue from someone offering me a lot of acetates, I think they may once have been (supposedly) Tiesto's if I recall correctly. No idea why they picked me; I don't spend that kind of money on a few slates of black.

I once spent something like 15 or 18 EUR on a white label promo of Lemon8's second Inner Sanctuary EP as a shameful exception to my principles, I guess (but I *had* to have that particular record in white label form). Then there was no other copy available for a while, but in the meantime someone has apparently paid 40 EUR for a copy, and two copies are currently up for sale for up to 40 pounds. Is it worth that much? No, but sellers can't help themselves (and there are far worse cases, such as https://www.discogs.com/release/152...Out-In-The-Shed).

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Originally posted by Midlothian On a side note, I do think that Spaniard's "gazillion ID's" reflects a somewhat overly romantic view of Sasha and his peers' sets from the golden years. I think we know most (with regard to recorded sets, to be sure), and what remains to be ID'd will likely turn out to be nothing very special.

The number has certainly come down a lot in the last ten years. I see sets reposted by people like rave_on on SoundCloud, and once barren tracklists are now abundantly populated with full track details.

That was another reason behind my answer - most of the tracks are out there these days if you're willing to procure them. Most of the genuine IDs are either rotting in obscurity for good reason or are unreleased edits, test pressings and so on. For example, in a lot of sets where Sasha or Diggers play Heller & Farley - The Rising Sun (Bedrock Remix), the track doesn't have the vocal samples over the top. Clearly this was an early version of the track pressed up for road-testing. It's rare, it's unreleased, but it's not remotely interesting.

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Originally posted by the-sixth Wonder no longer Sentinel - Reflection [Logic Records - LOC 304]

After listening to the whole track, I wouldn't say it's jaw-dropping, but it's a decent B side that works well in a set. The buildup reminded me of LSG - Train of Thought, but I guess it's a coincidence. I'm assuming the other 2 tracks in this release are just as good, if not better to make this an affordable purchase.

Will always have a love of that 1997-2000 era Sasha and Digweed. So much special music made. Not ID's, but here are a couple of tracks that I missed back in the day that I only recently rediscovered. Both of these are so good. Love it.









the-sixth, still trying to ID track 2 of this set. On the off chance you have the name, please shout it out!

John Digweed - Live @ Korona Club Kecel, Hungary - 1999-08-19

01. E.B.E. - Distraught (Original Mix) [Plastic City America, 1999]

02. ID

03. Rhythm Plate - Prospect Drive (Original Mix) [Mantis Recordings, 1999]

04. ID

05. Jan Driver - Soulshaka (Club 69 Underground Mix) [Groovilicious, 1999]


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