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The Current Dance scene lacks Proper Melodic/Euphoric Trance.

I have noticed that there is a serious lack of good melodic trance or euphoric trance I am talking the likes of Galen Behr, Mk-S and Kamil Polner, Adam White, Darren Tate old thrillseekers and old Airwave etc

Steve Helstrip's newer productions don't do it for me they are too loud and too sterile for me. I have a similar feeling of Activa's productions and releases too sterile for me. The drums, percussions and synth sound they are pre made or terrible quality as well and lacking really memorable melodies or sound. Seriously lacking memorable or any rhythm.

The uplifting stuff from the likes of Adam Ellis, John O'Callghan, Robert Nickson, Suncatcher, Lemon Einar K, Simon Patterson and the current Sean Tyas sound weak. Enigma State needs some work lacks the addictive qualities older trance had and they are somewhat chaotic as well. Old Sean Tyas productions were pretty good.










The psy/goa stuff is good from the Alan Backdrop and Ovnimoon, Artifact 303 is more of the stuff I want to hear in euphoric trance. Everyone out there either wants to make EDM pop or tech house minimal house which go nowhere.

Digital Blonde is the only producer out there making good uplifting trance/melodic trance that has those expressive melodies like a lot of older trance and unfortunately this has been happening since 2007/2008. Even JOOF has turned his back on melodic trance which is disappointing and he was playing melodic trance back then as well. I have seen interviews of him praising it as well.

If the premise is that the likes of Sean Tyas were good or that the sterile Reason Trance(tm) of the likes of old Behr and Nickson means well-produced we must be speaking mutually unintelligible lingos.

(A deep dive into old tech-house brings remarkably banging discoveries.)

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Originally posted by Midlothian If the premise is that the likes of Sean Tyas were good or that the sterile Reason Trance(tm) of the likes of old Behr and Nickson means well-produced we must be speaking mutually unintelligible lingos. (A deep dive into old tech-house brings remarkably banging discoveries.)

I am referencing the current stuff in terms of tech house. I didn't mind Sean's older productions from 2006 - 2008.

Those first two tracks remind me of Solar Stone (in a good way). That 3rd track is proper euphoric trance. Tracks today may not sound organic like it used to, but I guess it still has its audience somewhere.

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Originally posted by Mattsanity Those first two tracks remind me of Solar Stone (in a good way). That 3rd track is proper euphoric trance. Tracks today may not sound organic like it used to, but I guess it still has its audience somewhere.

Nope not in Melbourne most of the uplifting stuff gets drowned in that chaotic style. I don't mind the chaotic but the current stuff doesn't do it for me.

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Originally posted by Mattsanity Those first two tracks remind me of Solar Stone (in a good way). That 3rd track is proper euphoric trance. Tracks today may not sound organic like it used to, but I guess it still has its audience somewhere.

Also tracks like this I want to hear as well. Listen to that breakdown both dancefloor destroyers so so melodic and happy and cheerful and euphoric.

I'm taking this thread for granted. Your knowledge of post-2005 euphoric/melodic trance is impeccable.

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Originally posted by Mattsanity I'm taking this thread for granted. Your knowledge of post-2005 euphoric/melodic trance is impeccable.

I did ask Mirco De Govia to come back but he didn't want to make trance anymore because there is no money in it at least that's what Kyau & Albert advised when I asked them.

I even asked Joost van Der Vlueten but he is now currently just wants to make tech house boring shite

Have a listen a breakdown like this and melodic buildups and themes they are non existent it's more fist pumping or which track has the biggest drop or annoying noise.



This one has an annoying buildup that's most only critique

Surely people like them could release anything they made on labels like FSOE, assuming that still exists. But perhaps it was a reality call that making cookie cutter trance wasn't going to bring in the money anymore since there are now a zillion another people doing same sounding the same. If money's the reason then I think they brought it on themselves.

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Originally posted by Midlothian Surely people like them could release anything they made on labels like FSOE, assuming that still exists. But perhaps it was a reality call that making cookie cutter trance wasn't going to bring in the money anymore since there are now a zillion another people doing same sounding the same. If money's the reason then I think they brought it on themselves.

But I am not referring to cookie cuttered trance that's the stuff that's being currently released on labels like FSOE at the moment and I mentioned those artists who are doing that above. None of the tracks I posted sound the same they all sound different.

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Originally posted by Titanium I did ask Mirco De Govia to come back but he didn't want to make trance anymore because there is no money in it at least that's what Kyau & Albert advised when I asked them. I even asked Joost van Der Vlueten but he is now currently just wants to make tech house boring shite Have a listen a breakdown like this and melodic buildups and themes they are non existent it's more fist pumping or which track has the biggest drop or annoying noise. ...

Micro de Govia, so many great tracks and memories


I guess every genre/sound has it's golden age.

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Originally posted by Terrence Parker Micro de Govia, so many great tracks and memories I guess every genre/sound has it's golden age.

great track, half the time i think vocals make a track cheesy but in cases like this it actually makes the track better

There is some great trance being made still. But they seem to have a hard time reaching out judging by the streaming numbers.

Like this:










I have found many great tracks through this channel on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/@upliftingemotionaltrance

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Originally posted by Fuxzz There is some great trance being made still. But they seem to have a hard time reaching out judging by the streaming numbers. Like this: I have found many great tracks through this channel on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@upliftingemotionaltrance

That's the chaotic uplifting stuff I try to avoid because it's too chaotic

something like this from the same label but the vocal sample is annoying.

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Originally posted by Mattsanity I'm taking this thread for granted. Your knowledge of post-2005 euphoric/melodic trance is impeccable.

I know people on this forum don't take highly to ANjunabeats but tracks like these were pretty good they were so euphoric and sad at the same time too it's a journey and more

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Originally posted by Titanium I know people on this forum don't take highly to ANjunabeats but tracks like these were pretty good they were so euphoric and sad at the same time too it's a journey and more

Tru tru. Uplifting trance productions didn't sound grating to the ears and made me even shed buckets in a happy way. The equipment used was also a factor in the quality of the productions imo.

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Originally posted by Mattsanity Tru tru. Uplifting trance productions didn't sound grating to the ears and made me even shed buckets in a happy way. The equipment used was also a factor in the quality of the productions imo.

Your response starts off well, but the phrasing is a bit awkward�'shed buckets in a happy way' is an odd metaphor and feels forced. While it's clear that the speaker is trying to convey emotional intensity, the image of 'shedding buckets' doesn�t quite work�it's both imprecise and jarring. Additionally, 'grating to the ears' is a common expression, but it feels a little clich� in this context�perhaps a more original way to describe the pleasantness of the sound would make the statement stronger. The phrase 'the equipment used was also a factor' is vague�it's not clear what specific role the equipment played in enhancing the production. The use of 'imo'�while understandable in casual writing�detracts from the overall clarity and professionalism of the statement. Overall, it feels like a casual reflection that could benefit from more precision and stronger imagery.

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Originally posted by Midlothian Your response starts off well, but the phrasing is a bit awkward�'shed buckets in a happy way' is an odd metaphor and feels forced. While it's clear that the speaker is trying to convey emotional intensity, the image of 'shedding buckets' doesn�t quite work�it's both imprecise and jarring. Additionally, 'grating to the ears' is a common expression, but it feels a little clich� in this context�perhaps a more original way to describe the pleasantness of the sound would make the statement stronger. The phrase 'the equipment used was also a factor' is vague�it's not clear what specific role the equipment played in enhancing the production. The use of 'imo'�while understandable in casual writing�detracts from the overall clarity and professionalism of the statement. Overall, it feels like a casual reflection that could benefit from more precision and stronger imagery.

Come on, dude.

Is Mid deliberately using ChatGPT to highlight the banality of Matt's contributions?

Good-natured jesting from one sunday school brother to another, emdash, but the irony wasn't lost on me.

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Originally posted by Titanium That's the chaotic uplifting stuff I try to avoid because it's too chaotic

Got it. But at least they got some incredible melodies.

I was trying to put my thumb on what's missing with a lot of the newer tracks out there and this discussion made it click for me.

There are a lot of overpowering supersaw leads that just don't leave any room for other elements. The "chaotic" feeling that Titanium mentioned is kind of accurate. Euphoria really shouldn't be forced on the listener lol. There definitely feels like with many tracks (not all) that there's a focus on the sound of the track rather than the melodies or anything else.

I've kind of taken a break from trance for the past decade so I'm new to what's surely been an ongoing discussion. Not that the topic itself is new - I remember people saying melodic trance was dead 20 years ago!

It�s not Euphoric but something about this recent release on Anjunabeats gives me a bit of a �retro� prog trance feel. Maybe the piano or some of the pads. Definitely melody heavy.

https://youtu.be/G86G7i6Z8X8

This is an interesting meta im observing on this forum which is cool to see. I remember back in 2006 or so any of this stuff would be called cookiecutter and lambasted. People were more myopic with genres and such back then though. Its cool to see a minute pullback. The longer im listening to electronica, the more primitive or I suppose less complex music seems more appealing, especially listening to earlier acid trance, acid techno and ambient. Trance is more of a time signature thing between elements not the actual elements itself, you dont need much to achieve it. simplicity is beauty.

I can call them cookie cutter if you want. It just matters less in 2026 because there is good underground trance available, whereas 20 years ago tgere was more Fate Of The Scene hand wringing going on as the clones took over.

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