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Re: Re: Re: Outa here. This place is dead and done.
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Yikes. Sometimes you can be such a cliche! I don't even harbor that level of hatred for anyone but murderers and child molesters(congrats on yours, btw! I have 2 beautiful girls myself.)
Sorry you got so bent out of shape by my farewell--I really didn't think you of all people trolled around here anymore. But hey, like tupac said, I ain't mad atcha, I got nothin but love for ya. Hate doesn't solve anything (and either has Obama ).
Try watching something other than msnbc once in a while. They're running the full court press/protect the qb at all costs smear campaign. Believe it or not Paul Ryan is a solid guy who actuall understands what he talks about. I hope you can be willing to listen.
Cheers opus, you have been one of my favorites.
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Hehe, it worked  .
You know I loved debatin' ya Shakka. Just figured since you might have been baitin' someone like me a little with your post, I might throw a little bait back.
Anywho, despite what others on my side may say, I think Ryan is a formidable VP candidate. He's articulate, very well-spoken, flippin' miles ahead of the last VP candidate you had, good lookin, intelligent, etc.
But his budget proposal and plan for Medicare is nothing shy of batshit insane, and no one but the wingnutters will buy into it. Adding an average of $6500 extra for each Medicare recipient according to the CBO and essentially ending Medicare as we know it by turning it into a voucher system just isn't gonna fly:
www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3708
He adds no specifics to his proposal at all, and nothing is actually balanced. In fact, he adds some 2.5 trillion to the deficit:
| quote: | On the tax side, Ryan proposes big cuts in tax rates on top income brackets and corporations. He has tried to dodge the normal process in which tax proposals are "scored" by independent auditors, but the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center has done the math, and the revenue loss from these cuts comes to $4.3 trillion over the next decade.
On the spending side, Ryan proposes huge cuts in Medicaid, turning it over to the states while sharply reducing funding relative to projections under current policy. That saves about $800 billion. He proposes similar harsh cuts in food stamps, saving a further $130 billion or so, plus a grab-bag of other cuts, such as reduced aid to college students. Let's be generous and say that all these cuts would save $1 trillion.
On top of this, Ryan includes the $716 billion in Medicare savings that are part of Obamacare, even though he wants to scrap everything else in that act. Despite this, Ryan has now joined Romney in denouncing President Barack Obama for "cutting Medicare"; more on that in a minute.
So if we add up Ryan's specific proposals, we have $4.3 trillion in tax cuts, partially offset by around $1.7 trillion in spending cuts � with the tax cuts, surprise, disproportionately benefiting the top 1 percent, while the spending cuts would primarily come at the expense of low-income families. Overall, the effect would be to increase the deficit by about $2.5 trillion.
Yet Ryan claims to be a deficit hawk. What's the basis for that claim?
Well, he says that he would offset his tax cuts by "base broadening," eliminating enough tax deductions to make up the lost revenue. Which deductions would he eliminate? He refuses to say � and realistically, revenue gain on the scale he claims would be virtually impossible.
At the same time, he asserts that he would make huge further cuts in spending. What would he cut? He refuses to say.
What Ryan actually offers, then, are specific proposals that would sharply increase the deficit, plus an assertion that he has secret tax and spending plans that he refuses to share with us, but which will turn his overall plan into deficit reduction.
If this sounds like a joke, that's because it is. Yet Ryan's "plan" has been treated with great respect in Washington. He even received an award for fiscal responsibility from three of the leading deficit-scold pressure groups. What's going on?
The answer, basically, is a triumph of style over substance. Over the longer term, the Ryan plan would end Medicare as we know it � and in Washington, "fiscal responsibility" is often equated with willingness to slash Medicare and Social Security, even if the purported savings would be used to cut taxes on the rich rather than to reduce deficits. Also, self-proclaimed centrists are always looking for conservatives they can praise to showcase their centrism, and Ryan has skillfully played into that weakness, talking a good game even if his numbers don't add up.
Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/08/21/39...l#storylink=cpy |
The guy's ideas are about as serious as an assclown. But if that darn librul media loves him the way that they do, who knows what will happen.
But hey, I do wish you and your family the best. Take care.
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a pleasure as always mr opus 
congrats on the addition to the family.
