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SgtFoo
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vaughan, Canada
cubase iv

hrm... they're dropping the sx. ... just doing "4"

Old Post Sep-20-2006 05:24  Canada
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aquila
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Good. Back to version titles everyone can understand.


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wrzonance
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Seattle, WA

O Rly. Will Cubase 4 = Internal bussing though?

Because if it doesn't. I still say that's the only thing keeping it from hammering ProTools in the cock.


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RivalMan
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quote:
Originally posted by DJFreaq
Will Cubase 4 = Internal bussing though?


What do you mean by this?

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Old Post Sep-20-2006 10:33  Denmark
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wrzonance
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Currently. In Cubase SX3 and Nuendo 3.

You can not bus things internally like in ProTools.

If I want to use the side-chain feature of my Waves C1 to compress my lead-line's reverb every time it hits in Cubase/Nuendo. I can't.

But I can do it in ProTools.

Audio Ch1: Lead --> send to bus 1-2
Aux Ch2: Reverb + WavesC1 which is in SC mode and recieves from bus 1-2.


I can use SideKickv3 in Cubase but to be honest, while nicely implemented (at first I was like YAY sidechaining compression in Cubase) I don't like how the compressor itself sounds. In fact. I have to do a caddywhompus way of signal routing to make it sound okay. If SgtFoo is really a ProTools pro. He'll know what I'm getting at.


Goodnight.


Anyway. I'm going on a rant from no sleep. Point is. I want internal bussing in Cubase/Nuendo.


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RivalMan
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quote:
Originally posted by DJFreaq
I want internal bussing in Cubase/Nuendo.


I see your point - and I would love that too.

The only reason I asked was that I thought you were referring to the possibility of routing tracks to busses - a feature that obviously has been around for a long time.

Another feature I would like limplemented is that midi and VSTi-tracks no longer need to be on two seperate tracks (like the way it works in Logic). I don't mind the possibility of having a distinct midi-track in that case I want to route it to several instruments at the same time. But most of the times, I just use a midi for triggering either a VSTi or an external synth. It would be so much nicer (less clutter) if I could use just one track for that.

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Old Post Sep-20-2006 11:14  Denmark
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wrzonance
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Yea. Even ProTools in version 7 has gotten around to making "Instrument Tracks" where VST channels and MIDI comingle.

That would make Cubase and Nuendo truely great. Internal Bussing and Instrument Tracks.

Word.

We'll see though... Steinberg/Yamaha might miss the boat again and just give us some lame time-stretching thing again. Warp, while usefull, was not what I was hoping for in version 3. Version 4 better prove more fruitfull.


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RivalMan
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quote:
Originally posted by DJFreaq
Warp, while usefull, was not what I was hoping for in version 3. Version 4 better prove more fruitfull.


+1

Version 4 has been in development for almost 2 years and Steinberg hasn't released anything the last year, so you'ld think the programmers have had time enough to come up with something useful.

And I wouldn't mind if they would also supply more fully featured device panels (looking for Nord Rack 2 and JP8080). They are quite time consuming to program yourself and the community hasn't been as quick to develop device panels as the Logic community (maybe because more Logic users use hardware synths).

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Old Post Sep-20-2006 11:36  Denmark
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jey
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quick question regarding some of what was said above....?

in cubase 3 i can open about 5-6 synths with plugins on them all and my cpu sits about 50%, so i can really make my whole track and just mix it down that way without using much audio channels, really use audio channels for fx sounds but by doing it that way i cant sidechain the kick and bass "well i dont think it can be done" as in every tutorial i read its all done using audio channels so am i right that sidechaining cant be done on midi channels and would that be a useful feature as i like to play my bass and other sounds live as it fast an easy to edit???

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SgtFoo
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quote:
Originally posted by DJFreaq
Yea. Even ProTools in version 7 has gotten around to making "Instrument Tracks" where VST channels and MIDI comingle.

That would make Cubase and Nuendo truely great. Internal Bussing and Instrument Tracks.



You're very close to the truth... Intrument tracks "*would*" be the next thing now wouldn't they!

Old Post Sep-20-2006 16:43  Canada
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thecYrus
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instrument track ist implemented. even with track presets and new vst3 plugins.

a lot of new plugins (30 new) and 4 new synths.

... well, a lot of very cool new things!

http://www.steinberg.de/41_1.html

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thesuperfunk
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looks interesting!

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