I remember a few years ago they had a petition signed by a similar number of scientists, and the response was largely to the effect of "Oh, anybody can make a petition, and most of those signatures aren't from real climate scientists, they're from, like, physicists and shit, who are obviously just stupid."

We'll see if a formal report from actual climatologists makes any difference. I'm sure that some smart-ass will be quick to point out that it's not peer reviewed (yet) and ignore the fact that the IPCC has not subjected any of its findings to any sort of scientific scrutiny, ever.

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Yeah, I saw the petition that you are referring to as well. Sadly, as expected, it was quickly wiped away. Most likely, this one will to - though there is understandably a lot more to support it with the current state of the global economy

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As Geologists, we have a bit of a different outlook on climate change. Sure anthropogenic sources of methane, CO2, etc contribute but their overall effect on climate change is minimal at best.

In any case, we won't see the effects of climate change in our time anyways, 2012 is just around the corner

lolol

Something interesting this article should have mentioned about their two leading esteemed scientists:

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re:Fred Singer "Singer insists he is not on the payroll of the energy industry, but admits he once accepted an unsolicited check from Exxon for $10,000." source his partner in crime: Craig D. Idso, who runs the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change, has also been funded by Exxon.

I'd also love to see a list of the 37,000+ esteemed scientists--and before anyone get's their panties in a bunch--I just thought I'd point something out; I have no interest in discussing the controversy behind global warning.

Funny and insightful

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Originally posted by evil_cookie I'd also love to see a list of the 37,000+ esteemed scientists--and before anyone get's their panties in a bunch--I just thought I'd point something out; I have no interest in discussing the controversy behind global warning.

Wait, I thought you were one of the skeptics? Maybe I have you confused with someone else.

Anyway, that's so typical of MSM journalists, when you can't refute somebody's argument, just start attacking their credibility. This quote from the same article says it all:

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But scientists say there is no "other side." The debate about global warming is over, they say.

Yep, scientists say that. Which scientists? Doesn't matter - scientists. "They" say it's over. And "they" never took money from any NGOs, no sir.

People really should be ashamed to publish such arrogant garbage.

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Humans are too arrogant to think they can fuck up the Earth.It was here before us ,it will be here after.

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we can still fuck things up pretty good.

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit we can still fuck things up pretty good.

Hell yeah we can. We can poison it to hell with our ridiculous chemical waste and mow down the forests that give us all life. I guess the one positive thing about all this attention is that a lot of people are starting to look at things like this. However, like always, it gets misdirected once the "brains" in government get involved. /sigh

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I had no idea that 'our' (human) models are so poorly constructed, and quite often wrong. But the more and more I pay attention, the clearer it becomes that we just don't have the processing power or accurate relationships to model things are trying to predict. From wind tunnel testing for cars, to energy equations for power plants, and to the climate, we are very far off.

Hell, if F1 teams, spending $500m/year each still needs to do real world testing to confirm/refute their wind tunnel testing, then how can we expect that we can model the entire climate 100 years in the future?

Sorry folks, but computers won't fix this one for us.

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Originally posted by Orko Sorry folks, but computers won't fix this one for us.

i heard windows 7 was pretty good.

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