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justjabbin
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Registered: May 2007
Location: Sacramento, Ca
how do you feel about people pirating your music?

Just curious. I was a little flattered when I saw pages of torent sites with a remix of mine but then I was a little upset. Last week I played a show and one of the DJs told me when I was playing the track how much they liked it and they had just got it and loved it... however it was pirated....i sort of have mixed feeling about this, flattered on one had and upset on the other>>>>>


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echosystm
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Registered: Jul 2004
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If I was famous, I would upload my own music to torrent sites. You earn fuck all money from music sales, so you might as well just use it as a tool to get your name out there and get gigs... and fangirl ass.


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wrzonance
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Seattle, WA

People download my music? Holy shit. I better put a stop to this...

justjabbin: Pandora's box has been open for a LONG TIME now... don't get upset. Because there's NOTHING you can do about it. If it were 12 years ago, people would be duping CDs of your track back and forth with each other. 10 years before that, they would have been trading cassette tapes. 10 years before that... tapes!

Anyway. The above is probably not even accurate. Not to be rude, but, there's a good change, that 10-20 years ago, no one would have even heard about you or your music if it weren't for the internet/digital releases. So you have to take the good with the bad buddy! File sharing and torrents are here to stay, you better get used to it.


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DJ Robby Rox
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Registered: Apr 2007
Location: Tiestoland

At this point I don't care cause I'm a nobody.

If I ever became famous like echo said, my attitude would be the exact opposite, and Id have a stronger obligation to attempt controlling it in whatever little ways I could.


And if you make a "fuck all" amount of money, just imagine how much youd be making if people didn't pirate the shit. I still think very few people actually get to ever experience that though.


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jupiterone
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: los angeles

i'd encourage it

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EgosXII
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Registered: Apr 2007
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
At this point I don't care cause I'm a nobody.

If I ever became famous like echo said, my attitude would be the exact opposite, and Id have a stronger obligation to attempt controlling it in whatever little ways I could.


And if you make a "fuck all" amount of money, just imagine how much youd be making if people didn't pirate the shit. I still think very few people actually get to ever experience that though.


echo said the opposite of that

1: nobody would download it even illegally unless you'r famous,
2: that's why echo said if he was to become famous he WOULD upload them to torrents for promotional purposes.
3: if torrents weren't around sales would most likely be exactly the same except the scene would be SHIT because nobody would ever experience new artists... who wants to buy the first single of some n00b??? but if i was going to download it for free and it turned out to be fuckn awesome, i might tour him eventually... etc

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Originally posted by echosystm
If I was famous, I would upload my own music to torrent sites. You earn fuck all money from music sales, so you might as well just use it as a tool to get your name out there and get gigs... and fangirl ass.


i completely agree with this...

i can't stand the people who assume that if illegal downloads didn't exist the people illegally downloading would buy shit

this argument is like the 'safe injecting rooms make everyone want to inject heroin' issue... completely retarded..

you might lose 1000 bucks anually on sales if you have the hugest edm hit of the year, but you'll gain a huge income from gigs if your name becomes known...


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Fledz
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Registered: Sep 2006
Location: London UK

I never saw anything from the one track I released, but then again I'm not sure it sold much anyway. When I saw it up on torrents I was a bit sad, until 30sec later I realised that people out there were listening to and enjoying my track. So it's not all bad really.

I produce music as a hobby and if it makes people happy, then sweet. I don't do it for the money (lol money).


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Storyteller
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Registered: Feb 2005
Location: The Netherlands

I only download music from legal download sites. I think I'm entitled to at least be a bit pissed when I see my music on whatever site or rapidshare rip-offs.

I think true music lovers are willing to pay for it. Otherwise you're not a true lover.

I actually wrote an article on this about 18 months ago on the Resonant Vibes blog: http://resonantvibes.com/blog/2008/...c-scene-ethics/


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Fledz
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Registered: Sep 2006
Location: London UK

I think a lot of kids download music illegaly and then end up paying for music when they get older, so it's a bit rough to say they aren't real music lovers if they don't pay for it.

I know I used to download illegaly and I'll bet most if not all of you did too when you were younger, and yet we all pay for it now and love it as equally as before.


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Nightshift
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Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Sacramento, California

quote:
Originally posted by EgosXII
echo said the opposite of that

1: nobody would download it even illegally unless you'r famous,
2: that's why echo said if he was to become famous he WOULD upload them to torrents for promotional purposes.
3: if torrents weren't around sales would most likely be exactly the same except the scene would be SHIT because nobody would ever experience new artists... who wants to buy the first single of some n00b??? but if i was going to download it for free and it turned out to be fuckn awesome, i might tour him eventually... etc



i completely agree with this...

i can't stand the people who assume that if illegal downloads didn't exist the people illegally downloading would buy shit

this argument is like the 'safe injecting rooms make everyone want to inject heroin' issue... completely retarded..

you might lose 1000 bucks anually on sales if you have the hugest edm hit of the year, but you'll gain a huge income from gigs if your name becomes known...


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Beatflux
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Registered: Mar 2006
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quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
I never saw anything from the one track I released, but then again I'm not sure it sold much anyway. When I saw it up on torrents I was a bit sad, until 30sec later I realised that people out there were listening to and enjoying my track. So it's not all bad really.

I produce music as a hobby and if it makes people happy, then sweet. I don't do it for the money (lol money).


Some people just download everything they can get their hands on.


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SoundMagus
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Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Phuket

Well sadly there is no point getting upset about it as it will continuously happen and there is nothing you can do about it.

USe it as a way of getting your own music heard and perhaps concentrate on getting live gigs where hopefully you may be able to make a few quid !


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