like 85 to 90 percent of my song's are all initialized and crafted by me, the main lead is definitely , because i feel like thats a strong part of the song writing process, and setting a mood, its just as personal as you know the melody or whatever it's your own !

and these kids be listening to your music, and don't know that, i constantly get messages about what preset pack or whatever I'm using , and it bothers me . I am tired of reiterating myself lol

like when you hear showtek, you know thats showtek , theres no pack you can download on loopmasters unless somebody tries to recreate their thing and release it as a novelty thing

well i want people to know when you hear lovehate, thats lovehate!

Say what?!? You are not using presets?!? Not sure if I ever listened to your tracks anyway who are those kids that bother you? At least you've got a few kids that appearantly take the effort to communicate with you.

All daw VST samplebased music sounds the same and you get buried by "new releases" of every bob and their uncle daily.... only thing that seperates the men from the boys is style and arrangement. No one cares about "me too EDM" And if you dialed in that cutoff yourself, or if value 91 of cc#1 was your personal touch......

Sounds more lke attention whoring to me

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WTF is this? People that matter don't care whether you're using presets or not (hint - they don't even know what a preset is), people that care don't matter.
Grow a thicker skin.

Was there any point in this thread or are you just whining?

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Originally posted by LoveHate like 85 to 90 percent of my song's are all initialized and crafted by me, the main lead is definitely , because i feel like thats a strong part of the song writing process, and setting a mood, its just as personal as you know the melody or whatever it's your own ! and these kids be listening to your music, and don't know that, i constantly get messages about what preset pack or whatever I'm using , and it bothers me . I am tired of reiterating myself lol like when you hear showtek, you know thats showtek , theres no pack you can download on loopmasters unless somebody tries to recreate their thing and release it as a novelty thing well i want people to know when you hear lovehate, thats lovehate!

I'm lol so what (to some extend of course) - for me this is not about sound creation contest but music creation process/art.

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Nothing wrong with using presets.

I make quite a few of the patches I use in my music but I also use my fair share of presets because its pointless trying to reinvent the wheel.

Who cares? Painters rarely make their own paints. Nobody complains that a guitarist didn't build their own instrument.

Do your music the way you want to do your music. It succeeds or fails as art on its own merits, not the uninformed opinions of people who don't know what they're talking about.

I could care less if someone uses a preset.

If anything, I love it when I hear a good track and the relaize the creative way they have made that preset fit in to the track.

Anyone who criticizes using a preset is usually a amateur producer who knows just enough to be dangerous.

It's like setting up a digital desk every single time you got to do a mix down. Aside from the repeat to learn aspect, once you know it, there's no point spending the time setting up the desk again, when you can just recall the setup as a preset.

Same with patches. It's bullshit purist idealism to beleive you have to hand craft every patch you use. What's the fucking point if someone has already done it for you?

I'm actually trying to make a remix of a big 1998 track right now only using presets. It's a lot of fun....

I make my own synth patches most of the time and, guess what? They usually end up sounding like...uhhh.....well,...presets.

The problem here is the whole myth of "originality" in EDM. First, most electronic music these days is not very original or groundbreaking - it's just as formulaic (if not more so) than just about any other genre. Second, how many times have heard people say that you're cheating if you're not making your own presets or using loops. Then, you go listen to all those people's music and, sure enough, their oh-so-original-sounds that they are making or using sound just like all those unoriginal loops and presets. Yay for originality.

Sure, there's pride in creating your own sounds and often times it's a lot more efficient to make something yourself than it is to pore through a million loops or presets hoping to find what you're looking for. But, you can't expect people to take as much pride in your work as you do.

But, I see the OP's point. He spends a lot of time on making his own sounds, has pride in it, but people hear it and just assume that he's using presets because: (a) they probably don't make music themselves and just assume that the computer does most of the work (sometimes not far from the truth), or (b) they do know that he made his own music but assume that he used presets because the sounds that he made for his music sound like...uhhh.....well,...presets.

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