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Originally posted by Zak McKracken It doesn’t seem to work very well; I pressed trance and in 100 tracks I couldn’t see one by Oliver Lieb.

If you look him up on the home page, he's tagged as classic progressive house (yet another prog subgenre) and frankfurt electronic; his LSG alias is filed under deep progressive trance; whereas his Spicelab monicker can be found under acid trance.

Like I said, it won't necessarily organise artists the same way we would as there's plenty of room for flaws and inconsistencies... but once you understand how the system works, it's pretty easy to navigate and find similar music. Also, keep in mind no one list can be exhaustive because it has to scour Spotify for every tiny piece of data it can get - so if the discography there isn't complete (or available at all), it either won't come up or you may find it somewhere unexpected.

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Originally posted by Zak McKracken It would be better if the AI rather focused on facts like BPM, key/chords, perceived average loudness (dB RMS/peak) and possibly structure (beat-patterns, bars buildups, breaks etc). Then it could possibly DJ for us.

Not sure you're aware, but Spotify already does that on quite a few playlists. It's no beatmatch master, but it's pretty fun, give it a try.

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Originally posted by Zak McKracken Spicelab to me is the last artist I think of when acid trance comes up

Personally, I'd have chosen Lars Ulrich as my last pick, sure, but you could choose Spicelab instead if you want

By doing that, however, you'd have to ignore the fact that Oliver Lieb's first release as Spicelab, Spicelab EP, made steady use of the TB-303 and was released on Harthouse. It would not have been a big deal if the label didn't have among its greatest tracks Hardfloor's Acperience 1, to mention a few, which would fit snugly in any acid trance mix. In short, Spicelab started off as part of the acid trance movement.

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Originally posted by Zak McKracken Frankfurt electronic well I would think of Sven Vath.

One of the founders of Harthouse, the label Frankfurt-based Oliver Lieb had his first release as Spicelab on?

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Originally posted by Zak McKracken I think tools like these will only confuse new fans of the scene.

Unwittingly, you may well have provided an argument for AI here: even when Every Noise seems to make a mistake, it fails quite successfully

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Last edited by Lira on Feb-20-2024 at 05:57

I guess such are the perils of AI, lumping together electronic music artists from Frankfurt as "Frankfurt Electronic" based on irrelevant data such as the artists living in the same city, releasing records on the same labels (some of which have their own playlists for those who care), and using similar electronic musical instruments. Also, I can't believe I fell for this mistake of thinking a(n ambient?) trance producer with a TB-303 releasing a record with trance elements on a label with plenty of acid trance tracks would've produced acid trance, and not acid house since it's a classic. Even Liam Howlett from the Prodigy has a TB-303 after all, and instead of labelling it as "acid", the AI links the Prodigy to made up genres like "Big Beat" and "Rave". If only it had gone the full mile and called it "Oldskool Rave" it would've been even trickier

Rookie mistake, thanks for pointing it out. I'll just leave the link up in case Skynet fools someone else, but thanks for the input

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