I don't even know why people bother dignifying such ignorance with a response...

To all those who think that the attack was warranted, based on dress, expose victim blaming at its finest.

In that case, I guess all women in bikinis at the beach have it coming...

And I guess profiling of any sort can be justified with the same skewed logic.

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"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
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Originally posted by newkicks I don't even know why people bother dignifying such ignorance with a response... To all those who think that the attack was warranted, based on dress, expose victim blaming at its finest. In that case, I guess all women in bikinis at the beach have it coming... And I guess profiling of any sort can be justified with the same skewed logic.

It's not that black and white. It's more complex given these kinds of issues obviously but the way IMO it should be thought of should be...

Again:

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Originally posted by jennypie Nobody deserves to get raped, of course, but you have to be very stupid or very naive if you don't think the way you dress sends a particular message to people. Women need to hold themselves to a higher standard of accountability when they put on skank clothes. Chicks who play the "Teehee, I had no idea this outfit makes me look like a sex object!" card must be missing a few brain cells. Besides, doing anything "sexy" is a lot more appealing when one can own that behaviour - like an adult. The whole girlish oblivious slut thing is more than juvenile. /tangent

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Originally posted by LKD hurt? no but you're judgement of me based on some image in your own mind about how I dress did have me laughing even till today.

are you on crack?
where did I EVER judge you? srsly Liam go take a walk
when I saw you in a suit @ Sasha's I only said that you look nice because I remembered you wearing T shirts prior
you're really getting on my nerves now

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Feel the energy deep inside your system
And leave this world behind...

*Maybe* the attack isn't as one sided as either party would like it to be, but if you're going to place any sort of responsibility on those women their misjudgement was to share a cab with drunken randos to their hotel, it was not leaving the house dolled up on NYE!

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"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
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Originally posted by Ferg Dood we have laws that protect women. i.e. these 5 fags are going to jail for having the same stupid reasoning you have. We don't live in fucking Iran or in the 1950's. So wake the fuck up from your fantasy world. We ll see who the bitch is when Big Bubba's whispering sweat nothings to you in your jail cell.

Incorrect.

You are going off on completely different tangents. You're making shit up that we're not even saying. Kinda schizo if you ask me.

I'm not wasting my time discussing this topic with people who are denser than a concrete block. You clearly can't comprehend what I'm saying, even though it's pretty fucking straight forward.

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Originally posted by newkicks I don't even know why people bother dignifying such ignorance with a response... To all those who think that the attack was warranted, based on dress, expose victim blaming at its finest. In that case, I guess all women in bikinis at the beach have it coming...

Nobody is saying that a woman deserves to be raped because of how she dresses. That's just stupid and I'd like to know which posts lead you to believe so. The discussion is, and has been for some pages now, about the attention women get relative to how they dress.

Men are horny mindless drones. They don't give a shit about what women think. If they see a chick dressed slutty then they'll treat her as such and go after her.

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Originally posted by newkicks *Maybe* the attack isn't as one sided as either party would like it to be, but if you're going to place any sort of responsibility on those women their misjudgement was to share a cab with drunken randos to their hotel, it was not leaving the house dolled up on NYE!

chikita, don't waste your breath deaf ears, deaf ears

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With your hands up in the sky,
Feel the energy deep inside your system
And leave this world behind...

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Originally posted by jennypie Nobody deserves to get raped, of course, but you have to be very stupid or very naive if you don't think the way you dress sends a particular message to people. Women need to hold themselves to a higher standard of accountability when they put on skank clothes. Chicks who play the "Teehee, I had no idea this outfit makes me look like a sex object!" card must be missing a few brain cells. Besides, doing anything "sexy" is a lot more appealing when one can own that behaviour - like an adult. The whole girlish oblivious slut thing is more than juvenile. /tangent

well guys don't have to be mindless drones and just realize that chicks that dress like that have low self esteem and therefore are not worth the dudes time since they probably suck in bed anyways.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess well guys don't have to be mindless drones and just realize that chicks that dress like that have low self esteem and therefore are not worth the dudes time since they probably suck in bed anyways.

If only. For sure they don't have to be, a LOT are.

Mindless drones (especially wasted ones) basically think that action (any) = good.

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... and that those guys are huge low lives who can only get women if they force it...

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"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
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Originally posted by newkicks ... and that those guys are huge low lives who can only get women if they force it...

Of course.

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Originally posted by newkicks ... and that those guys are huge low lives who can only get women if they force it...

And it just so happens that those guys, and the women they go after, make up a large percentage of our clubbing population.

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH Men are horny mindless drones. They don't give a shit about what women think. If they see a chick dressed slutty then they'll treat her as such.

YOU might be a horny mindless drone... I'll give your sex more credit than that, men aren't that primitive. In this moral world, show a little recognition for discipline, compassion, and respect.

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"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
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