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| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
Yes and I was being sarcastic. And guess what, whatever the reaction by America OR THE EU it wouldn't be this: |
If CNN staged a military coup, arrested President Bush for several hours, and were then caught out, the head of CNN would be in the electric chair...
| quote: | | Give me the 50/50 breakdown. There's an equal number of pro-Chavez stations as anti-Chavez stations? |
Like I said, I already did in the media thread (which you guys don't seem to have the stomach for, preferring instead your circular arguments)
| quote: | As with most questions about Venezuela, there is almost complete disagreement about what Venezuela�s media landscape looks like. According to the opposition, Chavez already controls most of the broadcast media, either directly, though state ownership or sponsorship, or indirectly, via supposedly repressive media laws. According to Chavez supporters, though, the opposition controls 95% of all media.
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Given the political positions and the relative audience shares of the different media outlets, we can divide Venezuela�s media landscape into three categories of opposition, neutral or balanced, and pro-government. Before RCTV�s demise it looked as follows:
Opposition: 50-55%
RCTV: 35-40%
Globovisi�n: 10%
Private local: 5%
Neutral or balanced: 30-40%
Venevisi�n: 20-25%
Televen: 10-15%
Pro-government: 20-25%
VTV: 15-20%
Other (Telesur, Vive, Community): 5%
Now, in the post-RCTV era there is indeed a significant shift, so that the media landscape could look as follows, if, as promised, TVes (RCTV�s replacement) does not become a pro-government channel, but is neutral.
Opposition: 15%
Globovisi�n: 10%
Private Local: 5%
Neutral/balanced: 30-40% or more
Venevisi�n: 20-25%
Televen: 10-15%
TVes: ??%
Pro-government: 20-25%
VTV: 15-20%
Other: 5%
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However, there are three unknowns that could change the ratio in favor of the opposition. First, those who used to watch RCTV might very well watch more Globovisi�n, thus increasing their share of the audience. Second, Venevisi�n could very well become more oppositional, now that many opposition supporters are looking for a new home. There are already first indications that this will happen, according to a recent news report in the weekly newspaper Quinto Dia.[5] And third, many lovers of RCTV who want to continue watching it but did not have cable access, might, if they can afford it, switch to cable to watch RCTV. Thus, if Globovisi�n�s audience share increases, if Venevisi�n moves back into the oppositional column, and if RCTV continues to attract a large audience on cable,[6] then the opposition to pro-government balance in the Television media could easily swing to at last 1:1.
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In any case, RCTV and the opposition have once again bungled the political situation. Instead of challenging Chavez in the political arena, they focused exclusively on legal challenges, international appeals, and confrontation. They could have organized a consultative (non-binding) referendum back in January, right after it was clear that Chavez would not renew RCTV�s license. Polls indicated that the up to 70% of Venezuelans did not want RCTV to go off the air. With only 10% of registered voters� signatures the Electoral Council would have been forced to convoke a referendum on the issue. If the polls are accurate, the opposition would have won that referendum easily, thereby embarrassing Chavez and perhaps forcing him to renew RCTV�s license. Maybe this course of action did not occur to anyone in the opposition, but more likely is that they prefer to challenge Chavez in the legal and international arenas and on the streets than politically because actions that use Venezuela�s democratic processes would legitimate a political system that the opposition continuously decries as a dictatorship and whose ultimate goal it is to de-legitimate.
http://www.zmag.org/content/showart...fm?ItemID=12986 |
Now that RCTV is back on the airwaves, altho their share of the market will have been reduced due to being on cable, the media landscape will now be more like the first breakdown. It's roughly equal between the anti-Chavez and pro-Chavez (tho that depends how popular the pro-Chavez channels are, which don't have the fancy soap operas of the opposition!!)
| quote: | | Yes I highlighted far more than that. |
So no comments about the two events I highlighted, interesting...
| quote: | | Ummm no please read it again. Particularly ALL the parts I bolded. |
I have responded to the bold parts. If there's something else you want me to comment on you're gonna have to explain exactly what you want...
| quote: | | ARE THE EU'S CRITICISMS UNFOUNDED AND COMPLETELY BASELESS?? How many times do I have to ask this question? |
How many fucking times do you want me to answer it!? Yes, I said in my post before, I even fucking say "I have said time and time again that this criticism is unfounded" WHICH PART OF THAT ARE YOU HAVING DIFFICULTY UNDERSTANDING?!!?!?!?
| quote: | | Chavez has done more to manipulate and control the media than RCTV alone. Is that not clear to you? |
Oh, well in that case I'll take your word for it. I mean, who am I to question what you say, it's not like every post you have written in this thread has been wrong or complete media fabrication is it? I believe you 100%
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