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Shakka
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This guy's no egomaniac at all! He's just cuckoo. I'm sure George will now proclaim the wonders of waking up 30 minutes earlier and the great favor Hugo is doing for the kids as he cannot seem to read below the surface.

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Call me cuckoo: It's Chavez time in Venezuela
Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:09pm EDT

By Saul Hudson

CARACAS (Reuters) - President Hugo Chavez wants Venezuelan clocks turned back half an hour and he wants it done in record time -- next Monday.

"I don't care if they call me crazy, the new time will go ahead, let them call me whatever they want," Chavez said on his weekly TV show. "I'm not to blame. I received a recommendation and said I liked the idea."

The shift will allow children to wake up for school in daylight instead of before sunrise, Chavez said.

That may seem reasonable to many Venezuelans but ordering the change with little notice and scant public education has raised questions over how much thought was given to the plan.

It also highlights how the anti-U.S. president's governing style can sometimes be eccentric, improvised and rushed in his self-styled revolution to turn one of the world's biggest oil exporters into a socialist state.

Chavez himself has not had time to get to grips with the practicalities of the clock shift.

In his live show, he called on his brother, the education minister, so that the two men could explain the measure. But they mistakenly told Venezuelans to move their clocks forward at midnight on Sunday, when the policy is to move them back.

Chavez dismissed criticism that moving the time only a half hour was quirky, questioning why the world had to follow a scheme of hourly divisions that he said was dictated by the imperial United States.

The change will put Venezuela on its own time zone, shared by no other country. Several countries have adopted times that put them half an hour ahead or behind neighbors, and Nepal's official time is just 15 minutes ahead of that of India.

Venezuelan businesses are now scrambling to call in technicians to reprogram their computers for the time change.

Most countries advertise in the media any planned changes in clock times for months before the implementation date.

But Chavez's government has only aired slots promoting the idea in principle without educating people on how to do it.

"I'd like them to explain it to me so that I can understand what the new time is. I don't get it at all," said Esperanza Alcala, a 46-year-old office cleaning worker.

TIME FOR CHANGE

Since first announcing last month that Venezuela would shift from four hours behind Greenwich Mean Time to four and a half hours, Chavez, his brother and other senior officials have given varying dates for the change.

This week, Chavez plumped for Monday, but his science and technology minister then said coordination with international organization might postpone the move until January.

Venezuelans could be forgiven for not taking the government at its word.

In a year of change when Chavez is overhauling the constitution and nationalizing swathes of the economy, some other attention-grabbing proposals have come to nothing.

Most notably, Chavez announced that Venezuela was immediately withdrawing from the International Monetary Fund. Venezuela's debt then plunged and four months later the country remains an IMF member.

Still, for Chavez, the clock move is simpler than people think. It is a one-off change and he notes that Venezuela does not follow many other countries in regularly moving clocks an hour forward for summer and back for winter.

"It's something that's done around the world each year and several times a year and here we are just doing it once in a century."

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George Smiley
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This guy's no egomaniac at all! He's just cuckoo. I'm sure George will now proclaim the wonders of waking up 30 minutes earlier and the great favor Hugo is doing for the kids as he cannot seem to read below the surface.

We've already done this story

I notice you like to post a lot of articles up without offering your own opinions on them...

Care to tell me why this is a bad idea?

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We've already done this story

I notice you like to post a lot of articles up without offering your own opinions on them...


My opinion was that this further supports the contention that he's an egomaniac. Did you fail to read the first sentence? Furthermore, does the U.S. really dictate time? Did the "Imperial U.S." create time and clocks or were the Egyptians really just Americans in sheep's clothing? Lol. This is just Hugo saying, "Look at me and all of the power I can exert! Time bows to me! Yay for stubborn obstinance! Seriously, peel back a few layers of the onion dude.

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Care to tell me why this is a bad idea?


Are you serious? I can think of plenty. Simply the fact that anything going into or coming out of Venezuela will be late (or early). Flight schedules, shipping schedules, etc. It will create needless costs for business, as the article pointed out (though you failed to see).
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Venezuelan businesses are now scrambling to call in technicians to reprogram their computers for the time change.
It is frivolous. And done with almost no time to prepare--it is ill conceived. It is the act of someone who thinks they are bigger than life. Frankly, it is but a cherry on top of this whole argument that you can't seem to get on the right side of.

Can you tell me why this is a good idea?

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I agree that this seems very rushed that will no doubt lead to initial confussion (also it might have been more sensible moving it back a whole hour so it would link up with another time-zone), but there are campaigns in all countries round the world to alter the time to allow for more sunlight (in fact, that's the very reason both you and me change our clocks twice a year in the first place!)

As for a good reason, how bout children not having to walk to school in the dark in one of the most violent and crime ridden countries in the world?

It's a proven fact (at least according to UK statistics) that more crime is committed in the dark than in light

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uhm, if that's all he cared about, wouldn't it be a lot easier to just change the hours of school operations by 30 minutes? That way he doesn't create all of the other silly side effects. I think this is much more of a power-play statement than you're giving credit for.

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uhm, if that's all he cared about, wouldn't it be a lot easier to just change the hours of school operations by 30 minutes? That way he doesn't create all of the other silly side effects. I think this is much more of a power-play statement than you're giving credit for.

Well then the public can decide at the next election can't they? Not that any of you support democratic elections in Venezuela given your defence of the 2002 coup participants...

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Well then the public can decide at the next election can't they? Not that any of you support democratic elections in Venezuela given your defence of the 2002 coup participants...


Why bother putting anything on the ballot when Senior Chavez can just declare what he wants and get it without having to go through the frivolities of due process?

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Why bother putting anything on the ballot when Senior Chavez can just declare what he wants and get it without having to go through the frivolities of due process?

Because he and his supporters won the presidential and parliamentary elections?

My god you really don't have a clue do you?!

Do you know what an election is?!

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Here's a question Shakka...do you know what happens when somebody with a manifesto does when they win an election?

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Because he and his supporters won the presidential and parliamentary elections?

My god you really don't have a clue do you?!

Do you know what an election is?!


Apparently you don't get sarcasm.

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Here's a question Shakka...do you know what happens when somebody with a manifesto does when they win an election?


Celebrate?

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Celebrate?

And then they implement all the policies they were elected to do...

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