Hi Guys

I'm very very new to music producing / software so please be gentle with me!! we all start somewhere!!

I have Cubase SX3 and have noticed that there are not that many sounds that come with it in the drum editor and I've been told that they all pretty basic so I have bought a cd with drum samples on there (a Time & Space cd) but I have absolutley no idea how to install them onto Cubase so that they are displayed on the same screen as the other sounds that are already in the drum editor?


Is it possible to do this?? If not what do i need to do??

Please please can anyone help me as the laptop is nearly out of the window!!

Ta
Nudge

You need a sampler, like Battery or Kontakt or HALion. Cubase by itself can't really do what you're trying to do (I assume you're attempting to use the LM-9 for this).

You can import them into an audio track and lay them out beat-by-beat, but it's pretty tedious...

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I personally prefer to have each individual wav-file on a seperate audio-channel, and make all the rhythms there. I feel like you have the most control of each sample that way. But that's just my opinion.
For me, it couldn't be any simpler and more effective. In Cubase that is.

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Hi Guys

Firstly thanks for your replies - I think i'll go down the sampler route as I'll need one further down the line even if i don't get one now.


Dave - I like the sound of an each individual wav-file on a seperate audio-channel but how do i go about this??


Thanks

Nudge

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Originally posted by Nudge XS Hi Guys Firstly thanks for your replies - I think i'll go down the sampler route as I'll need one further down the line even if i don't get one now. Dave - I like the sound of an each individual wav-file on a seperate audio-channel but how do i go about this?? Thanks Nudge

File> Import> Audio File.

Samplers like battery can output the sound from each cell/sample to individual mixerchannels, so it's nice to have all the percussions grouped together in one sampler imo, there are no down sides.

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Originally posted by [Alpha]Dave I personally prefer to have each individual wav-file on a seperate audio-channel, and make all the rhythms there. I feel like you have the most control of each sample that way. But that's just my opinion. For me, it couldn't be any simpler and more effective. In Cubase that is.

So what do you do if you want to create a snare roll where the volume jumps for each snare, rather than 'through' each snare? Can this be done easily in an audio track?

yup, you can either automate volume to go up through the snare roll, which would be going 'through' each snare or you can grab the little box in the middle of the sample to change each snares velocity individualy.

the downside to using samplers like battery is, theres no upside. all it really does is slow me down. i only use it for hiphop to chop up breaks and play my own stuff, techno beats are so simple its faster just to arrange them in audio tracks real quick.

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Originally posted by mysticalninja yup, you can either automate volume to go up through the snare roll, which would be going 'through' each snare or you can grab the little box in the middle of the sample to change each snares velocity individualy. the downside to using samplers like battery is, theres no upside. all it really does is slow me down. i only use it for hiphop to chop up breaks and play my own stuff, techno beats are so simple its faster just to arrange them in audio tracks real quick.

So a roll over 8 bars would require changing the levels of 128 snares, and that's if you only use 16ths. That sounds like a right pain in the arse to me, especially if you changed your mind later.

And then there's pitching drums, changing their envelope, bitcrushing etc. To me, all of this is easier in battery.

If it works for you, fair enough, but I really don't see how it's easier or more productive.

same thing as changing velocity on the midi track for 128 notes, anyway id just use volume automation like i would on any other track to make a long fade in and it would take 5 seconds.

cubase has a higher qualtiy pitch shift (with four algorithms, one specifically for drums) , more controllable envelope and WAY WAY WAY WAAAYYYYYYY more advanced bit crushing than battery.

i use both, i just only use battery when i want to show off and play a fat kit live with a friend playing a melody or something. if the track gets started in battery then ill just keep it that way, but to me its just a cpu hog and clutter.

unless im making hiphop then its essential.

if u make trace w/ breaks it would be pretty usefull. i personally HATE trance with break beats tho. it just doesnt sound right to me.

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Last edited by mysticalninja on Jan-06-2007 at 20:28

It's not the same, drawing an upward line in velocity for midi will only affect the start of the drum.. so it will jump. I much prefer the sound of that over the volume going through the hits.

I find I only ever pitch drums slightly, so the algorithm isn't too important and definately does the trick. Don't really bitcrush much either but if I felt battery was lacking I could easily use an audio track or insert the cubase bitcrusher into one of battery's outputs.

true. ive used batterys pitch shift to tune my BD down 1 or 2 semitones, its not bad.

TBH i despise snare rolls anyway so i could care less if it jumps or volume goes up smooth :P

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