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Dj_Kile
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Track length Issue - And labels length Criteria (Added final Edit)

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This is the final track that i managed to squeeze to ~8min
It's more to the point less missing around...
And the ending is really about power, i struggled with it for a while
and i think it came out pretty good




I'm facing this more than often,
Lately I tend to make longer tracks than usual
9,10 minutes long tracks
And i find it more tough to get those signed or accepted
I've been told more that once to edit them, make them shorter
Generally I have no problem with that , specially if nothing is happening in the tracks or if it feels repetitive/boring , but there are tracks that have a story and are not complete without the whole thing

for example this remix i did recently
I'm bit frustrated as i poured my self into it but essentially it was turned down


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Last edited by Dj_Kile on Jan-05-2013 at 21:14

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Trancelover03591
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It seems like there might have been a communication problem when you were discussing what the expectations were. I understand your frustration though as they ultimately asked you to remix it and give your interpretation, and you made an artistic decision about how you felt the track should best be remixed and they rejected your vision more than the quality.

Still, I think any EDM label, even the most popular radio oriented labels, should be OK with at least one of the remixes being a long progressive structured track though.


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Dj_Kile
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reason i put the link above is because for that particular track i really feel that any edit is out of the question
question is , does it feel too long , does it feel that it's dragging


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topoftheworld
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you can easily condense the first 2.5 min into 1 min and shave another 2 mins off the end. it will probably make the track marginally better.
but yes, your entire arrangement is a bit bizzarre.

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EddieZilker
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I honestly don't have a problem with length, in a song, and often wonder whether the people who do make an issue of it aren't simply doing so because it veers from their conventional beliefs about what a song should be. Honestly, given the quality of this (although some of the mid-highs/highs are a little pronounced for my taste - particularly the noise-ish percussion), I think you could have done a lot worse. I quite enjoy the tune.

Thanks for making it downloadable. Will definitely be listening to it, again.


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Looney4Clooney
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6 minutes max. If you need more time, do an extended mix.

That track is fine. Some people can't hear potential. You just need to condense the arrangement. Should take you 2 hours. I wouldn't be discouraged. I would not of rejected it, i would of given you a a chance to fix the loose ends although if i asked for a remix, I would of paid you before hand and stated in the contract the requirements i expect. When doing remixes, get as much detail as you can.


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I quite enjoy the tune.
Thanks for making it downloadable. Will definitely be listening to it, again.


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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
You just need to condense the arrangement. Should take you 2 hours.


man 2 hours , i'v been staring at it for two days
I will try at it again in a day or two , right now its buzzing in my head


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don't change it. Just edit. You just have to take out.


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Rodri Santos
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On this genre i have no worries about lenght i'll still prefer ~7min tracks than 9-10 minute ones but it's ok.

If you plan to release on labels where djs fill their crate often be aware that djs hate long tracks, the standard is 64 bars for intro, 64 for outro, this is roughly 1-1 minutes, then 4 minutes or even 3 minutes of "track" is enough, this is what works best on dancefloors and labels know it.

But for any progressive style i think that at least 7 minutes are mandatory if you want something happening.

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too much high end for the cymbals and stuff? Blah. It sounds pretty tight to me eq wise. It's very crisp and clear and I'm using shitty speakers. As far as length goes is it required for it to be in the 7 minute range?

What software are you using just out of curiosity?

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What software are you using just out of curiosity?


Ableton for the whole production and mixing phase
Cubase for Mastering


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