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Chretian to Decriminilize Pot Possesion!!

I'm surprised non of the pot headz out there posted this!


Chr�tien ready to ease pot possession law
Applause greets promise to youth
'We're not legalizing it'


ANDREW CHUNG
OTTAWA BUREAU

OTTAWA � Calling his government "activist" and "not afraid to take on controversial issues," Prime Minister Jean Chr�tien cast a nod at youth last night and vowed that marijuana would soon be decriminalized.

It was the first public pronouncement from Chr�tien that possessing small quantities of marijuana would be decriminalized in Canada.

"We will soon introduce legislation to decriminalize possession of small amounts of marijuana," he told a Liberal party fundraiser. Amid applause, he quipped, "Don't start to smoke it right away! We're not legalizing it."

Chr�tien said that, in his youth, marijuana wasn't known. "I never tasted it." But he smoked cigarettes, when his father told him not to. "When he gave me permission at 16, I stopped."

Youth today are charged criminally for possession of marijuana.

"Some might have a criminal record that will be a shadow over his (her) life for years to come," the Prime Minister said. That makes decriminalization important so "young people do not have unnecessary criminal records for the rest of their lives."

Chr�tien was speaking to 1,000 Liberal supporters, MPs, senators and corporate tables at the $500 a plate annual Maple Leaf Dinner in the capital.

He could barely begin speaking after being moved by a specially prepared "legacy" video, highlighting his 40-year political career, set to Frank Sinatra's crooning, "I did it my way."

Chr�tien glowingly paraded his government's record since last fall's throne speech, implementing, he noted, the Kyoto Protocol to reduce greenhouse gases and the new $34.8 billion health accord with the provinces. He said the February budget was the most activist social policy budget since Liberals took office in 1993.

Perhaps his most activist measure will be the easing of Canada's pot laws.

For months, Justice Minister Martin Cauchon has hinted the government would bring in legislation to remove the criminal stigma from personal possession. The bill is expected in June.

Chr�tien indicated last night the system he favours is one where possession becomes a simple ticketing offence.

The bill would be accompanied by more resources to combat drug trafficking.

As far back as 30 years ago, when Chr�tien was in Pierre Trudeau's cabinet, the Le Dain commission urged liberalization of marijuana laws. Chr�tien gave no indication of concern that such law might further chill Canada-U.S. relations.

President George W. Bush's drug czar John Walters has blamed Canadian growers and smugglers for the high-strength pot on U.S. streets. But the Canadian Medical Association and the Canadian Chiefs of Police support decriminalization.



Comments anyone?

holy crap...now ur gonna get people like infinity HIGH and TIME 2 BURN dazed and confused all day long walkin all over the roads and driving like fools

*Listens to "Spark Another Owl"*

awwww shiet!

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee holy crap...now ur gonna get people like infinity HIGH and TIME 2 BURN dazed and confused all day long walkin all over the roads and driving like fools

That's exactly what I'm afraid of...

Driving like fools? huh?
weed makes u more careful d riving cuz ur paranoid.

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee holy crap...now ur gonna get people like infinity HIGH and TIME 2 BURN dazed and confused all day long walkin all over the roads and driving like fools

"decriminalized" means exactly that - NOT CRIMINAL. it does not mean it's legal.

you will get a fine if you have some on you, in *small amounts*. if you are lugging around pockets of the stuff that will obviously still be illegal.

when the gov't decriminalizes something, that does not mean that it is "suddenly OK" to do it (smoke). they are not supporting it. they are merely trying to address the problem of jailing young kids who are caught smoking, cuz jailing is bad for many reasons. psychologically and financially, etc.

so i wouldn't get too excited about this just now... doesn't mean you can go strolling around downtown with a nice fat j...

EDIT: Basically what i want to say is that the decriminalization of marijuana in "small amounts" is not that great of a "victory" because it changes nothing about society's general standpoint. everyone will STILL tell you pot is bad, and that you "go dumber" . they just don't want to deal with the boatloads of people that are caught with it and (necessarily) have to go to jail because of it.

I smoked weed religiously and never once thought about getting caught or think im doing a criminal act. This is not a big deal for me, I already smoke weed on the street, at work, at school, anywhere I want it I have it.

Sorry double post.

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Originally posted by cap Driving like fools? huh? weed makes u more careful d riving cuz ur paranoid.

true. but it also makes you slower and messes with your senses and not to mention thought processes so it's not too cool to do. not to mention that it's not a pleasurable experience due to the paranoia. if you do it once ya won't do it again, generally.

sorry, double post.

dammit why do the boards have to be nice and fast EXCEPT when posting.. grr

.... holy triple post batman!

well i do know the meaning of decriminalizing but i meant to say that as a joke cos of those 2 guy's nicknames

thanks robin...u had to kill the batjoke

This is definitively a step in the right direction. Although the social stigma of cannabis is deeply ingrained within our culture and it is not likely to fade anytime soon, at least people's lives won't be ruined from something as minuscule as a cannabis possession charge.

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Originally posted by Alccode true. but it also makes you slower and messes with your senses and not to mention thought processes so it's not too cool to do. not to mention that it's not a pleasurable experience due to the paranoia. if you do it once ya won't do it again, generally.

I've done it a few times(alone), and as long as you give 100% concentration, it's not a big problem. If u have a bnuch of other guys in there egging u on im sure things could get out of hand fast tho..

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee well i do know the meaning of decriminalizing but i meant to say that as a joke cos of those 2 guy's nicknames thanks robin...u had to kill the batjoke

yeah i understand man i was just addressing ppl in general, just to clear things up.

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Originally posted by TranceXtasy This is definitively a step in the right direction. Although the social stigma of cannabis is deeply ingrained within our culture and it is not likely to fade anytime soon, at least people's lives won't be ruined from something as minuscule as a cannabis possession charge.

amen! 'nuff said.

I don't even have a car LKD, so how can I drive like a fool?

...wait, smoking weed will probably lead me to stealing a car. Then while driving, at 5KM/H, I'll hit a little girl who's riding her bicycle on the wrong side of the road just as I'm pulling out of McDonalds. To top it off, my girlfriend will get pregnant.

Here's an interesting article on CBC, on the USA's reaction to this

click

I especially love that last part, where Murray says ""It's not just Canada's relationship with the United States that would change; it's Canada's relationship with the world,"

^^^ Who the hell do they think they are? If the US Gov thinks they can dictate Canadian policy they are sadly mistaken. I sincerely hope that the Chretian government brushes aside these 'threats' and continues forward with the 'new age' of thinking.

I can't believe those dumb american politicians. They are still using the stupid imperial system of measurement for gods sake! How moronic is that?

It is clear that decriminalizing pot possesion will not only move us forward but it will also decrease drug use. Better eductaion is needed to curb drug use, NOT restrictions. Take Europe as an example, they are leagues ahead of us when it comes to drug policies.

GGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRR,

itikia

^^^ think about it...USA is supposedly the "land of the free"

hmmm...can u freely smoke pot? can u have raves? can you purchase alcohol and cigarettes under teh age of 21?

I like the 'Four Horsemen' analogy that Murray used. So much for the separation of Church and State.

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee ^^^ think about it...USA is supposedly the "land of the free" hmmm...can u freely smoke pot? can u have raves? can you purchase alcohol and cigarettes under teh age of 21?

good point. the US isn't the land of the free anymore. and it's turning more into a totalitarian state every day.

i just wonder how they'll cover it up...i mean, how they'll make the masses believe they are still 'free' when they are enslaved...

oh wait.. they've got cnn and mickey mouse. plus it's already happened. just look at the PATRIOT act, the new privacy (or anti-privacy i should say!) laws, etc.

Re: Chretian to Decriminilize Pot Possesion!!

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Originally posted by itikia I'm surprised non of the pot headz out there posted this! Chr�tien ready to ease pot possession law Applause greets promise to youth 'We're not legalizing it' ANDREW CHUNG OTTAWA BUREAU OTTAWA � Calling his government "activist" and "not afraid to take on controversial issues," Prime Minister Jean Chr�tien cast a nod at youth last night and vowed that marijuana would soon be decriminalized. It was the first public pronouncement from Chr�tien that possessing small quantities of marijuana would be decriminalized in Canada. "We will soon introduce legislation to decriminalize possession of small amounts of marijuana," he told a Liberal party fundraiser. Amid applause, he quipped, "Don't start to smoke it right away! We're not legalizing it." Chr�tien said that, in his youth, marijuana wasn't known. "I never tasted it." But he smoked cigarettes, when his father told him not to. "When he gave me permission at 16, I stopped." Youth today are charged criminally for possession of marijuana. "Some might have a criminal record that will be a shadow over his (her) life for years to come," the Prime Minister said. That makes decriminalization important so "young people do not have unnecessary criminal records for the rest of their lives." Chr�tien was speaking to 1,000 Liberal supporters, MPs, senators and corporate tables at the $500 a plate annual Maple Leaf Dinner in the capital. He could barely begin speaking after being moved by a specially prepared "legacy" video, highlighting his 40-year political career, set to Frank Sinatra's crooning, "I did it my way." Chr�tien glowingly paraded his government's record since last fall's throne speech, implementing, he noted, the Kyoto Protocol to reduce greenhouse gases and the new $34.8 billion health accord with the provinces. He said the February budget was the most activist social policy budget since Liberals took office in 1993. Perhaps his most activist measure will be the easing of Canada's pot laws. For months, Justice Minister Martin Cauchon has hinted the government would bring in legislation to remove the criminal stigma from personal possession. The bill is expected in June. Chr�tien indicated last night the system he favours is one where possession becomes a simple ticketing offence. The bill would be accompanied by more resources to combat drug trafficking. As far back as 30 years ago, when Chr�tien was in Pierre Trudeau's cabinet, the Le Dain commission urged liberalization of marijuana laws. Chr�tien gave no indication of concern that such law might further chill Canada-U.S. relations. President George W. Bush's drug czar John Walters has blamed Canadian growers and smugglers for the high-strength pot on U.S. streets. But the Canadian Medical Association and the Canadian Chiefs of Police support decriminalization. Comments anyone?

Its basic-ally le-gal anyways, most people I talk to dont care if anyone smokes it, and its hard to get picked up by the cops for smoking a joint down here in the city.

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee ^^^ think about it...USA is supposedly the "land of the free" hmmm...can u freely smoke pot? can u have raves? can you purchase alcohol and cigarettes under teh age of 21?

we do need laws to keep us in check. I dont want kids drinking & smoking, i think you have to know the out come of these choices
and when your 13 smoking is "cool" when your 21 you also understand how unhealthy of a choice it is. But of course when you hit 19 or so I fully agree if you still want to smoke feel free, just take it out side so I dont die with ya.
p.s smoke hydro not players

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Originally posted by Alccode everyone will STILL tell you pot is bad, and that you "go dumber" .

Society says pot makes you 'go dumber' because you do 'go dumber'.

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