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progressive music and the age

Do you think progressive house music is for 19+?
cause I notice 19- are more interested in uplifting and regular trance
and 19+ are interested more in progressive scene

am i the only one who voted??

I think you just see it that way because of the way clubs book the djs that play there and how they have it 19+ etc. If more of the 19+ clubs weren't interested in uplifting/regular trance then why would Guv bring Armin 4 times up till now, or Marco V or Ferry 3 times or Tiesto? On regular nights it's a bit of both. I think Guv or even System on regular nights play both styles of music as they have rooms for it.

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Originally posted by Endlesswave I think you just see it that way because of the way clubs book the djs that play there and how they have it 19+ etc. If more of the 19+ clubs weren't interested in uplifting/regular trance then why would Guv bring Armin 4 times up till now, or Marco V or Ferry 3 times or Tiesto? On regular nights it's a bit of both. I think Guv or even System on regular nights play both styles of music as they have rooms for it.

beeep...tell me how many 19- u see listening to prog....

None because the places that play prog are all 19+

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Originally posted by Endlesswave I think you just see it that way because of the way clubs book the djs that play there and how they have it 19+ etc. If more of the 19+ clubs weren't interested in uplifting/regular trance then why would Guv bring Armin 4 times up till now, or Marco V or Ferry 3 times or Tiesto? On regular nights it's a bit of both. I think Guv or even System on regular nights play both styles of music as they have rooms for it.

doesn't mean that 19+ aren't interested in trance, just that few 19- aren't so interested in prog...seems to be an astute observation IMO. i dunno why more youngins aren't into prog

well i'd prolly agree with that statement cept for most people 19- don't even like trance, they just like top 40.. i'm 17 and i like prog so there! (don't know much about it but like the sound)

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Originally posted by Endlesswave None because the places that play prog are all 19+

yeah.. but they could put prog in all ages events if there was a demand

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Originally posted by charmscars yeah.. but they could put prog in all ages events if there was a demand

trust me on this: there would never be any.

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Originally posted by The Highroller trust me on this: there would never be any.

Agreed. Whenever I look at a 19+ club that plays prog (take Lotus for example) it's as if they market it towards being "mature", "business" type of atmosphere (I read a review from someone in here that said people were just standing around not dancing or anything). I mean that type of vibe isn't for me...imo. I want to party and groove to the tunage and meet cool people. Not go there and act like I'm some sort of elitist etc. Doesn't matter what kind of tunage they play, for me whether or not it's prog or trance, as long as people are dancing and having a wicked ass time I could care less.

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Originally posted by mecha Do you think progressive house music is for 19+? cause I notice 19- are more interested in uplifting and regular trance and 19+ are interested more in progressive scene

this question can be interpreted in so many ways .. the 2 that came to my mind was ..

"Do you think that progressive house music is intended more for people who are 19+?"

and

"Do you think that progressive house music is being listened to by more people who are 19+?"



wells.. i believe that there are probably more people who are 19+ that listen to progressive as opposed to people who are 19- , however this doesn't mean to say that the music shouldn't be intended for anyone who is 19- . Music is music and anyone at any age should be free to listen to it.

Now why do I think that there are more people who are 19+ listening to progressive.. ? wells as said earlier, probably most of the places that play this kinda stuff is done in 19+ venues. And other forms of music.. ie. Top 40, hip hop , R&B, alternative, and even trance seems to be more accessible and pimped than prog is ..

if there are jsut a few among the 19- age group that listen to prog, why should promoters/clubs cater to them and thereby make alcohol arrangements and worry about lisencing and getting screwed over if anythign happens???

Statistically I'd say yes.
I think progressive music is something that is appreciated at a more (i hate to say this) sophisticated level the same way classical music is. It can be 'boring' at times or seem like nothing is changing but you have to concentrate on the music more to appreciate it.

However, there are some of us who like prog house like moi
so, sometimes yes sometimes no

Prog house is not something I would listen to outside of a club (well, maybe in a car or something). Uplifting trance, ambient, chillout, are more the type of music to listen to at home.

I think the same goes for most people - I'm not dissing proghouse at all, I like it a lot when I go out, I just don't listen at home.

Guv, System, Lotus, Emporium, etc. are all 19+ and do not host all ages events. Therefore, people under 19 won't (or should not) be listening to prog house in clubs. Therefore, they won't listen to it at all.

We can liken it to alcoholic beverages. We could say that rev, for example, is a 19+ drink - well few people would drink this outside of a club, if people under 19 can get their hands on any alcohol it's usually cheap beer. Similar situation. That's my 2 cents anyway.

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Originally posted by Elmo-On-XTC Statistically I'd say yes. I think progressive music is something that is appreciated at a more (i hate to say this) sophisticated level the same way classical music is. It can be 'boring' at times or seem like nothing is changing but you have to concentrate on the music more to appreciate it. However, there are some of us who like prog house like moi so, sometimes yes sometimes no

I'm really impressed w/ your response elmo. very well thought out and openminded.

I'd say without a doubt that people that listen to prog are mostly always over 19 years old

like since I turned 21 all I been listening to is kiss 100 sets cause I got the whole archive of the shows lol

I find music tastes are not age specific. As you get older, you start to vary your music tastes. I go see deejays I like when I can that's about it. I listen to prog, trance, house, techno, breaks and lots of other stuff.

hmmmmm...to be honest, i don't really know what the difference between progressive and uplifting (trace) is...i think i do but i dunno.

now LKD tried to demostrate...and im still unsure...i just listen to trance and i evaluate every track on a individual level. IMO each track has it's own resounding qualities (n e good track that is) that makes it unique and memorable.

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Originally posted by marcus82 hmmmmm...to be honest, i don't really know what the difference between progressive and uplifting (trace) is...i think i do but i dunno. now LKD tried to demostrate...and im still unsure...i just listen to trance and i evaluate every track on a individual level. IMO each track has it's own resounding qualities (n e good track that is) that makes it unique and memorable.

Well in this case we're talking about progressive house (and I thank mecha for being that specific). Progressive trance is pretty similar to epic/uplifting.

Nah

Progressive in other ppl's minds is one genre.

In my mind, there is progressive (stuff that is not prog house and not prog trance) and prog trance and prog house. Then again, I don't think you see people over 19 liking progressive more. Friend of mine is 34 and the biggest trance fan on the planet. I just think everyone likes certain things at different times. I mean over the last year, I went thru a prog oriented phase then a breaks then trance. I mean we all listen to such diverse electronic music and I don't think that it is fair to say people of a certain age listen to a genre more than others. Then again, not many deejays play to under 19 and the deejays that they bring in are trance deejays, so if someone under 19 wants to see a big name dj, they really don't have much choice (unless they sneak in with fake id to the guvernment or another club). Whereas if you are over 19, then you can really see all deejays that come. I think it's just not many clubs have under 19 and the clubs that do bring in trance deejays, so do the 17yr olds really have a choice?

there's always choice!

especially if you are a TA forum member...people can educate me...err you!

but club wise i agree with you TT, 19+ there's way more music accessible to you than 19- all ages.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned that prog house is actually older and more established in the club scene. I mean, Digweed, Tenaglia, Nick Warren, etc...have all been established for longer than the likes of many of the currently popular trance djs. I would think that there might be a correlation between the older djs and the older crowd. I tend to think of prog as more of a "club sound" than trance...club events being more for the older crowd..

Most young kids don't remember that Warren, Seaman, Sasha, Digweed, Kleinenberg, Howells and others played TRANCE before moving towards a more dominated progressive sound. By the way, they all still play trance, just it's hard to tell.

Music is for all age groups yehh not that many 19- ppl liten to such as prog but there is a reason for it!!!! they dont have access to it ! all normal clubs in TO with prog and nice house/ breaks r all 19+s the ppl who r under ae take over the hip hop and rnb because thats the music they have access to !!! ALL ages clubs !
But if there were clubs with good prog , house/breaks there wuld be many more 19- ppl enjoying Prog
LIKE MYSELF Untill i head steddy access to prog i was more dependant on Rap hip-hop pop dance but THX to MECHA my life is better now
But yeh if ppl 19- had acces to it they would be much more into it!!

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Originally posted by mecha Do you think progressive house music is for 19+? cause I notice 19- are more interested in uplifting and regular trance and 19+ are interested more in progressive scene

I'm most interested in uplifting, epic and melodic trance. This followed by hard trance, goa trance, psy trance. Then maybe progressive trance. Then UK hard house, garage, then prog house would probably come next.

Prog is ok, but I'll take a Matt Hardwick any day (and prog only some days). I don't know, maybe I'm too energetic, but 8 hours of prog would start to wear on me - whereas 8 hours of trance just gets me warmed up.

I'm not exactly a youngin' either (in TA terms).. Not as old as -some people- (you know who you are) but mid 20s isn't exactly 19-.

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