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Posted by acustik on Jun-10-2001 06:13:

to hell with them crazy ravers!

since there is no forum for the edmonton (alberta, canada) area here on TA (yet?) i've decided to post this message here in the chillout room.

although i don't live there now, edmonton is my hometown and as such i've kept up with some of the news. there's been some activity regarding after hours parties in the edmonton area lately. there has been a strong effort from city politicians and police to shut down all after hours parties (raves and after hours clubs). the most recent development has been the creation of two new city by-laws:

1. IT WILL BE ILLEGAL FOR ANYONE UNDER THE AGE OF EIGHTEEN TO BE IN ANY PLACE WHERE DANCING TAKES PLACE AFTER MIDNIGHT

2. IT WILL BE ILLEGAL FOR ANY DANCING TO TAKE PLACE IN THE CITY OF EDMONTON AFTER 3 A.M.

i won't comment right now because i believe the obsurdity of these two by-laws speak for themselves. the news article can be found here .

this kind of thing has happened before in other areas of canada and around the world. the root cause is always the same: ignorance. a few questions for you TA's: what kind of actions can be taken to curtail this sort of thing? if it has happend in your area, how did you or people in your area react?

i know there's a few of you here, so for those of you in edmonton (or even if you're not), you can let edmonton's mayor bill smith know how you feel about this silliness here .

Posted by Some One on Jun-10-2001 06:55:

these are some harsh rules. but you know, I live in canada, and this matter can be settled by a law suit, which can cancel out those rules.

check the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, it must have a line like "people can do whatever they want" cuz how can u make a rule of "no dancing after 3am" thats like saying "no watching TV" those rules can overturned easily.

Posted by fastmp3 on Jun-10-2001 07:26:

imagine no watching TV after midnight
HAHAHAHAHA

Posted by j_spot on Jun-10-2001 08:04:

personally, I doubt thatll happen, but if it does, thats big news for me. That will affect buisness alot...cuz im a DJ(mostly for high schools) and if our dances cant go past 12, thatll suck ass in a huge way...but I dont think that it can happen..I live in cow town, not too far from edmonchuck..hopefully its not gonna happen..but if it does, all the AB parties r gonna be here....excellent....

Posted by u4ea:[soulstar] on Jun-10-2001 08:54:

hey i live in mootown too, and there was a city-bylaw in a effect since last august. i always found the alberta gov. intolerant, ignorant and snobby, to say the least

circumventions like this never happen in the 60s.

as for crime, it seems more frequent in etown than cowtown. The raves are a target for the criminal elements.

Posted by StereoPrincess on Jun-10-2001 11:58:

Thats the most retarded by-laws i ever heard.
well that and no spitting on the sidewalks in Kanata, (Ottawa).

Posted by tu_face on Jun-10-2001 12:09:

it used to be illegal in the UK for any music with a repetetive dancable beat to be played after 12pm... and it also used to be illegal for a DJ to play this music with anyone dancing to it..

these stupid las were scrapped a long time ago when the government realised raves and stuff werent actually all that bad lol

peace

Posted by StereoPrincess on Jun-10-2001 12:13:

I chicago they are trying to implement this crazy law that a rave is considered to be happening, when there are a hundred people and there is a DJ spinning and those will be outlawed.

Posted by Blik on Jun-10-2001 13:08:

quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
it used to be illegal in the UK for any music with a repetetive dancable beat to be played after 12pm... and it also used to be illegal for a DJ to play this music with anyone dancing to it..

these stupid las were scrapped a long time ago when the government realised raves and stuff werent actually all that bad lol

peace

what?????????? nomusic with a repetetive dancable beat can played after 12pm?? that's insane, what do they think, that people get agressive from that kind of music?? that's stupid, nu dancemusic after 12PM

Posted by tu_face on Jun-10-2001 13:40:

as i sed those laws have been scrapped now it was damn stupid... the government thought that raves were really really bad things and they also thought everyone was on drugs n stuff.. onhly some are on drugs... hehehe

i think any attempt to stop raves/parties likle these is a breach of the right to enjoy yourself. they should be fought at all costs, even when they are illegal keep on raving, thats what the early ravers in the UK did and now we can party legally

peace

Posted by Linx_da_cat on Jun-10-2001 14:02:

wow...i read this thread title and thought...'uh-oh...' not another raver bashing thread. thank gawd it wasn't.

yeah the governments think CHANGE in general is a bad thing so most of em take the easy way out, by making new laws on the spot and shit because they have 'better' things to do. yeah right.

Posted by Gekhous on Jun-10-2001 17:25:

they r smoothing up the laws here :�

Posted by Eugene on Jun-10-2001 17:39:

Well, it really seems like BIG BROTHER is watching you!

How can anyone be so ignorant and stupid... and what ever happened to freedom of expression...

You know, I always thought of Canada as a civilized, developed country... But now that you mentioned that "no dancing after 12" or whatever "law"... hmm... sounds like some third-world country to me, or dictatorship.

You know in some communist countries girls weren't allowed to have their hair styled a certain way... or people weren't allowed to walk the streets at night, because the government thought "everybody should be asleep at 3am, otherwise they're criminals..." I sense a link here!!

Posted by Gekhous on Jun-10-2001 17:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Eugene
Well, it really seems like BIG BROTHER is watching you!

How can anyone be so ignorant and stupid... and what ever happened to freedom of expression...

You know, I always thought of Canada as a civilized, developed country... But now that you mentioned that "no dancing after 12" or whatever "law"... hmm... sounds like some third-world country to me, or dictatorship.

You know in some communist countries girls weren't allowed to have their hair styled a certain way... or people weren't allowed to walk the streets at night, because the government thought "everybody should be asleep at 3am, otherwise they're criminals..." I sense a link here!!

lol, the VS and Canada r commies after all!!!! LOL

Posted by Eugene on Jun-10-2001 17:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Gekhous
lol, the VS and Canada r commies after all!!!! LOL

LOL

Posted by beroshima on Jun-10-2001 18:19:

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
I chicago they are trying to implement this crazy law that a rave is considered to be happening, when there are a hundred people and there is a DJ spinning and those will be outlawed.

Its in process in the State Senate. It probably will happen. Chicago is a very conservative place, very old skool - everyone likes their house and white picket fence. Raves don't go along with that idea, and politicians always get their way. People are talking about uniting to go against it, but the scene is just too small to make a difference.

Posted by bluE_Neon on Jun-10-2001 18:34:

hey my peeps wats fucken new in Canada...ive heard so many laws dat were suppose 2 be made and nothing fucken happened...expect 4 raves...theres basically like no fucken raves in TO now!!!!!Fucking politicians!!!

Posted by StereoPrincess on Jun-10-2001 18:35:

Thats not even that bad, Ottawa is gonna get all public places to ban smoking. Clubs and everything. I understand restaurants, but clubs?? Man and i don't even smoke.

Posted by fastmp3 on Jun-10-2001 18:38:

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
Thats not even that bad, Ottawa is gonna get all public places to ban smoking. Clubs and everything. I understand restaurants, but clubs?? Man and i don't even smoke.

I don't smoke too and it's gonna be weird to see no one smoking ...

Posted by StereoPrincess on Jun-10-2001 18:40:

quote:
Originally posted by FASTDJMP3

I don't smoke too and it's gonna be weird to see no one smoking ...

I know, its part of the experience to come home smellin like an ashtray

Posted by bluE_Neon on Jun-10-2001 18:43:

LOL princess....Canada is fucking up majorly now

Posted by StereoPrincess on Jun-10-2001 18:46:

quote:
Originally posted by bluE_Neon
hey my peeps wats fucken new in Canada...ive heard so many laws dat were suppose 2 be made and nothing fucken happened...expect 4 raves...theres basically like no fucken raves in TO now!!!!!Fucking politicians!!!

So what do you do in TO then?? You are probly not old enough to go to clubs

Posted by Eugene on Jun-10-2001 18:47:

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess

I know, its part of the experience to come home smellin like an ashtray

I know, every time I come home from a club, my clothes smell like an ashtray hehehe but it's all good

Posted by rock_roll18 on Jun-10-2001 18:48:

Hi,
Im from chicago too..clubs get closed for the smallest of reasons..!!!!A club called Karma got closed...fuckk..it was the best 1 in chicago.
Talking about laws...heh...my friend in a club got pissed..went outside and barely touched aSUV...thefuckin owner came and charged him 200$...for a scratch that was not visible also...the cops were also with hium on this..after he was paid..he apid the 2 bouncers 50$ each!!!!

Posted by StereoPrincess on Jun-10-2001 18:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Eugene

I know, every time I come home from a club, my clothes smell like an ashtray hehehe but it's all good

I used to have long hair and that was the worst. had to shower twice.

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