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Posted by Dmatrox on Jun-18-2003 03:06:

Ephedra/Ephedrine

Supposedly its banned in Canada, anyone know why?

Posted by Orbax on Jun-18-2003 05:05:

cuz it stresses the shit out of your heart and there have been some deaths.

Posted by j_spot on Jun-18-2003 05:22:

the real reason that Canada banned ephedra products is cuz Big Daddy(aka USA) told us to.

Meth labs were getting their drugs legally from canada and the US didnt appreciate this..the lobbied and won.

Not that its a bad thing, ephedra can be horrible for you. Taken as directed I found it to be a very good drug(nasal decongestant) Mixed w/ E it packs one hell of a punch to get you messed, and with drinks(or caffeine in general) it feels like E.
Caffeine
MDMA
Ephedra
booze
the 4 together make a potentially lethal combo.

I used to like taking it for a lil something extra, but im not complaining that its gone.

Posted by Orbax on Jun-18-2003 06:18:

if youre interested there is a chinese version of it that you can still get. its like 50 for the bottle. Ill root around here and find it been a while since I used it.

Posted by psilocin on Jun-18-2003 06:22:

eh this chinese shit is it the one supposedly "herbal ecstacy" ? either way i hear this stuff and ephedra prob just as bad for u as bombs...stay wit the E...(if ur doing drugsd at all) personally i'd rather have more minor side effects associated with E than one effect fucking up ur heart......

Posted by Nadi on Jun-18-2003 06:29:

Ephedrine is the active ingrident in those fat burning muscle gaining products such as stacker 2. It's banned because using it, even as directed has lead to a number of deaths.

Posted by magnasoma on Jun-18-2003 09:56:

Its been a good while since i've been near herbal ecstasy but i think it was like a guarana-based thing. It wouldn't be ephedrine based.

Posted by butterfly on Jun-18-2003 12:35:

is it banned in the US too?

Posted by frontebb on Jun-18-2003 13:28:

quote:
Originally posted by butterfly
is it banned in the US too?

All the ephedra containing supplements are being banned off shelves. Well, this is why they are coming out with ephedra-free diet supplements now.

Posted by Mimick on Jun-18-2003 13:38:

quote:
Originally posted by caroline
All the ephedra containing supplements are being banned off shelves. Well, this is why they are coming out with ephedra-free diet supplements now.

I don't think thats quite accurate.. i just bought a huge bottle of Stacker-2 (which contains ephedra) over at Eckerds. It wasn't the last bottle either, they had a whole shelf-full.

Posted by verminator on Jun-18-2003 13:39:

ephedrine rox

Posted by frontebb on Jun-18-2003 13:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Mimick
I don't think thats quite accurate.. i just bought a huge bottle of Stacker-2 (which contains ephedra) over at Eckerds. It wasn't the last bottle either, they had a whole shelf-full.

uhh oh. someone's getting in trouble!

Posted by sash on Jun-18-2003 13:41:

quote:
http://www.streetdrugs.org/methlabs.htm
Methamphetamine is clandestinely manufactured using the ephedrine or pseudoephedrine reduction method. In this process, over-the-counter cold and allergy tablets containing ephedrine or pseudoephedrine are placed in a solution of water, alcohol, or other solvent for several hours until the ephedrine or pseudoephedrine separates from the tablet. Then, using common household products and equipment listed on this page and a recipe learned from friends or taken off the Internet, the ephedrine or pseudoephedrine is converted into high quality Methamphetamine in makeshift, illegal labs by untrained individuals.

could be this

Posted by Nadi on Jun-18-2003 14:21:

quote:
Originally posted by butterfly
is it banned in the US too?

Its banned in some cities and some states, but in most area's its fine for now at least.

Posted by Furel on Jun-18-2003 15:08:

Its nice. Makes you feel energetic. I used to take it b4 work out and when I was really tired and wanted go parting. I never had any problems... But that's just me...

Posted by butterfly on Jun-18-2003 15:19:

my roomate in college used to take it for weight loss (the recommended dosage) and she developed a heart murmur.

Posted by DJ Chrono on Jun-18-2003 15:28:

I was going to buy a bottle of Dymetadrine Xtreme (containing ephedra/caffine/asprin) but I decidede not to after reading about all the potential health problems associated with it.

I guess it's good I didnt order it, considering it's banned in canada and could have got stopped at customs. heh

Posted by INDY on Jun-18-2003 16:03:

if its banned thats for reason

Posted by j_spot on Jun-18-2003 19:13:

you wouldnt run into trouble @ customs its not BANNED

sales of the product are banned. You can still have it. etc

Posted by Dmatrox on Jun-18-2003 21:11:

thats good to know

i can barely find 200mg caffeine in a bottle around town, wtf

the chinese name of ephedra is 'ma huang' btw

anyone used DMAE (Dimethylaminoethanol) before? Does it help u keep awake and stuff?

Posted by j_spot on Jun-18-2003 22:03:

caffeine pills?
go to superstore and ask for Wakeups
its 11 dollars for a bottle of 100 pills.

Posted by Dmatrox on Jun-18-2003 22:10:

ok, i checked safeway and shoppers drug mart, all they had were stoopid 36 pills of Wakeups. thanks jspot you wouldnt happen to know where i can find ephedra do you?

Posted by Nadi on Jun-18-2003 22:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Dmatrox
you wouldnt happen to know where i can find ephedra do you?

Technically your body produces it :P But random health stores like gnc sell it, or did before this one pitcher died and everyone started talking about it earlier this year.

Posted by j_spot on Jun-18-2003 22:54:

I was told that @ the vitamin warehouse(Dont know where) that they had it behind the front counter..ask and they give, but its off the shelves.

dont know if thats reliable or not tho.

Posted by Bernd_Gradish on Nov-30-2003 17:35:

Can anyone tell me more about ephedrin?
It is completly legal here in austria and I just got me 10 pills of it and took some this week. The ones I got dont have much ephedrin, about 25mg per pill.

What are the exact negativ effects of it? I couldnt recogize any except for a faster heart beat and that it is bad if you got a weak heart.

For now I have to say that it is nice if you feel a bit down and dont want to lay down. One of them gives me energy, 2 feel stronger, a bit similar to a weak Extasy. But without the negativ aspects like depression, feeling ill,...
Is it bad to mix with some pot?

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