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Posted by Shakka on Jul-24-2003 15:43:

The dead Husseins

The pictures have been released and are none to pretty. Just go to any online news site and they should be on the front page.



Warning: Graphic Photos Below











Posted by daffodil on Jul-24-2003 16:28:

despite the horror these men inflicted throughout their lives and the fact that they were both terrible humans, it's still painful to see pictures of them dead.


Posted by surferfb on Jul-24-2003 17:32:

I'm glad their gone!

I think I've played too many violent video games though, these weren't nearly as graphic as I was imagining.


Posted by Shakka on Jul-24-2003 19:54:

quote:
Originally posted by surferfb
I'm glad their gone!

I think I've played too many violent video games though, these weren't nearly as graphic as I was imagining.


LOL, so true. It's amazing how our culture has been desensitized to violence, yet the violence that goes on over there is unlike anything most of us have ever seen face to face.


Posted by PeacefulWarrior on Jul-24-2003 22:10:

Have these images been shown by any of the big media outlets in the US?


Posted by occrider on Jul-24-2003 22:12:

quote:
Originally posted by PeacefulWarrior
Have these images been shown by any of the big media outlets in the US?


CNN


Posted by PeacefulWarrior on Jul-24-2003 22:18:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
CNN


Isn't this a bit hypocritical of CNN? Weren't all the networks up in arms when Al-Jazeera put up pictures of dead U.S. soldiers?


Posted by drgoodvibe on Jul-24-2003 22:52:

quote:
Originally posted by PeacefulWarrior
Isn't this a bit hypocritical of CNN? Weren't all the networks up in arms when Al-Jazeera put up pictures of dead U.S. soldiers?



EXACTLY!!!


Posted by Nadi on Jul-24-2003 23:15:

I didnt look at the pictures because I dont have any desire to see dead people. But if even half the stories about them are true then I'm rather glad there dead.


Posted by LiquidX on Jul-24-2003 23:23:

Those doods were psychos.


Posted by DR86 on Jul-25-2003 02:12:

quote:
Originally posted by PeacefulWarrior
Isn't this a bit hypocritical of CNN? Weren't all the networks up in arms when Al-Jazeera put up pictures of dead U.S. soldiers?


well said.


Posted by occrider on Jul-25-2003 02:26:

quote:
Originally posted by PeacefulWarrior
Isn't this a bit hypocritical of CNN? Weren't all the networks up in arms when Al-Jazeera put up pictures of dead U.S. soldiers?


These guys aren't soldiers ... they're mass murderers. Their deaths deserve no respect. I couldn't care less if they gutted their bodies on national prime time tv .


Posted by daffodil on Jul-25-2003 03:37:

quote:
Originally posted by PeacefulWarrior
Isn't this a bit hypocritical of CNN? Weren't all the networks up in arms when Al-Jazeera put up pictures of dead U.S. soldiers?


i was thinking the same thing for a few hours too, but i think there is a difference is the reasons for showing the pictures of soldiers versus the hussein sons. the pictures of the hussein sons were shown (mainly) for proof: they are unquestionably dead, a point that's important to disseminate when you are trying to quell support for the old regime. i think it's an issue where the benefits outweigh the ethical questions.

al-jazeera was showing pictures of random american soldiers, not leaders or people of recognition. i don't think cnn has been broadcasting pictures of random dead iraqis for the sake of parading and showing off. i do not know this because tv news is appalling to me and i will not watch it.

in regard to desentization via video games: to me there is such an enormous difference between a human and an animated game. i have a strong stomach and an unusual interest in surgeries, but there are real dead people. so different.


Posted by DR86 on Jul-25-2003 04:18:

quote:
Originally posted by daffodil
the pictures of the hussein sons were shown (mainly) for proof: they are unquestionably dead, a point that's important to disseminate when you are trying to quell support for the old regime. i think it's an issue where the benefits outweigh the ethical questions.


that's true. the main purpose of those photos being released was so the Iraqi public would see the old regime crumbling.


Posted by dEsidEL on Jul-25-2003 07:30:

KarateKid

if that is really them, then I wonder if they killed themselves or were killed in battle ..


Posted by PeacefulWarrior on Jul-26-2003 21:03:

quote:
Originally posted by daffodil
al-jazeera was showing pictures of random american soldiers, not leaders or people of recognition. i don't think cnn has been broadcasting pictures of random dead iraqis for the sake of parading and showing off.


Muslims bury their dead as quickly as possible, preferably before the sun sets on the day they die. This practice is enforced by a Muslim saying: "A fast burial is the highest honor to the memory of a deceased one." Therefore, this footage is offensive to Muslims--just as the footage of dead American GIs was offensive to many Americans.


Posted by DR86 on Jul-27-2003 03:28:

quote:
Originally posted by PeacefulWarrior
Muslims bury their dead as quickly as possible, preferably before the sun sets on the day they die. This practice is enforced by a Muslim saying: "A fast burial is the highest honor to the memory of a deceased one." Therefore, this footage is offensive to Muslims--just as the footage of dead American GIs was offensive to many Americans.


Actually, an American news team spoke with a leading Muslim sheik, and he said that so far, what the Americans were doing was fine with Islamic law. Now, all they are doing is waiting for someone to step forth and actually claim the bodies. Of course, no one is probably going to do that, so they will be buried by the Americans in some wartime cemetary.

BTW, the muslims also believe that a body should be put straight into the ground, i.e. no coffin. That way, they are closer to Mother Earth and Allah.


Posted by prolikewhoa on Jul-27-2003 08:20:

personally, i think they took 'proving they're dead' a little too far. there is a difference between informing and galavanting.
it's good that they're dead, and now we know it wasn't just a rumor...so they should stop at that.
when i'm flipping through channels i don't really wanna see a big ugly dead body, i dunno about y'all.
you may get off on that shit.
perverts.


Posted by Eisbaer on Aug-17-2003 09:59:

showing dead people on television is tacky. people in this country are the most naiive people on earth. it is because nothing has happened to them. 9-11 and they think they have seen war... these people havent seen war, nor have i. i have a certain restraint about who i slander, what i believe, and who i tell it to. i doubt any of you are a threat to me, if you are, its already too late.



i dont watch television, i read the newsprint to soak up the lies, and from there i can paint my own pictures of what might have happened, given the pattern of lies reported in this case.

information "truth" is verifiable from what can be seen
misinformation "lies" like "truth" has an internal structure, and its own set of rules so that it may be false, it certainly reveals a lot about the people who believe it.


Posted by prolikewhoa on Aug-17-2003 19:05:

so you're saying all news reports are lies?
who's naive now?


Posted by JM on Aug-17-2003 21:58:

quote:
Originally posted by daffodil
it's still painful to see pictures of them dead.


son, you are confused. painful? which part? stop beating off to the pics while typing that rubbish. here's a picture to honour your journalistic opinions.

>JM<


Posted by SeeK on Aug-19-2003 12:44:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
These guys aren't soldiers ... they're mass murderers. Their deaths deserve no respect. I couldn't care less if they gutted their bodies on national prime time tv .


What makes 1 Americans life more valuable than 1 Iraqi's life? or say any other life on this earth?


Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on Aug-19-2003 21:37:

I guess it's because those guys were mass murderers and psychopaths.

On the other hand, it is hypocritical of the americans to be against showing their dead soldiers while on the other hand they're showing dead enemies.


Posted by Viber on Aug-19-2003 23:29:

funny thing that ive seen in the papers is that the US army has fond tons of israeli beer inside the house of uday and qusay


Posted by JM on Aug-20-2003 02:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Viber
funny thing that ive seen in the papers is that the US army has fond tons of israeli beer inside the house of uday and qusay


damn hypocrates (sp?) as far as burying those two in a timely (fast) manner, who the fuck cares...they were, after all, some bad guys who did bad things....

>JM<


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