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How do u start ur production?

hi

question:

How do u guyz star producing a track?

U first create the break/melody and create al things arround that?

or just start from the beginnen?

depends on the style of the track..

if i have a melody in my head, i create it and work from there (adding bassline and percussion, so that i have an 'idea' on how the main part will sound like)

sometimes i'm just messing with sounds and loops, and all of a sudden a nasty groove comes up..

so it depends

i start with lead

then i move onto bass and percussion

after ive done all of that, i compile it into a track

i tend to start from the beginning, that's why 90% of what i do in fruity never gets completed :\

starting by the middle part of the tune is what i recommend. start by the melody, breakdown/buildup, then go into percussion and the rest of the stuff. basically, you should start by the paek time of the track, it's way easier to make submelodies/percussion to fit the already existing main lead than starting by the less important stuff then trying to invent a main part for it.

I start in the middle with the main idea of the song. It might be a melody, it might be a percussive groove, who knows. From there, I work back to the beginning and then do the end.

mostly i start with a melodie... sometimes the string come's first and i make a melodie from that...
then i make the bass and percussions and make's the main part of the track.... then i mostly make a buildup and then the intro come's

and last the outro

I used to start with the melody, now I traditionally start with percussion and bassline. Once you have a track that's pretty driving with a really good beat, you can start adding melodic elements. Furthermore, sometimes you end up with good driving techy tracks this way.

Really depends though; if you get an idea for a good melody first then you should start there and work on the arrangement around it.

Lately I've been starting with the percussion elements of the song but usually I begin with the bassline. For some songs I start with the melody but that's only when I have a melody that I'm exicted about or if it's a melody I just can't ge out of my head.

i often start with the lead melody/bd.. then i create a second melody for the background that fits to the lead. and now i go to the start and build the intro (and a breakdown).. because i know my target i can easily do the build up (it includes the basslines).

and finally some bridges and the outro..

so long
cYrus

Imo you start with the main lead don't do anything once you have your main lead

after youve created your main lead then make variations of it for example different key signatures ,different octaves etc

then you have your second and third main lead

then you put your leads where you want it then go back to the beggining and create the rest

bass loop
loop
kick
bass drum kick
snare
snare roll
full snare roll

the rest of the percussion and drums etc

hat
toms
pedal hat
closed hat
open hat
clap
cowbell

pretty much whatevery ou want could be percussion

then the bass

again make different variations of the same bassline
so after you create
your 1st sec and third main lead
you then go back to the beginning and make the intro and the build up and the outro but before you do all that
you need to create

the bass
percussion
Drums
spheres ,atmospheres
melodies
and stabs
then sequence everything add any effects

then ad fx and vocals



Hope this helps

Club Kid

Actually, I usually have the drum beat first.
If I start with the synths I usually manage fuck-up the volume balance which means that
a) everything dets distorted
b) the drums aren't loud enough.

When I've started to do a track I've never ever had an idea ready (since I am so hopeless with creating melodies) - every single of my tracks is a result of experimenting with random stuff because I've had nothing else to do.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Actually, I usually have the drum beat first. If I start with the synths I usually manage fuck-up the volume balance which means that a) everything dets distorted b) the drums aren't loud enough. When I've started to do a track I've never ever had an idea ready (since I am so hopeless with creating melodies) - every single of my tracks is a result of experimenting with random stuff because I've had nothing else to do.

I used to be like that, but now melodies come naturally to me.

Look into classical music theory, and focus on directed motion(have a beginning note and an end note and work your way up or down.)

Another really good way to come up with melodies is to listen to a song, doesn't matter whose, and listen for hidden melodies, the ones that were not intentional and might just be a result of pulses created by two notes interacting.

I'll give an example. In my song "Entropy", the smooth lead at 3:30 can actually be heard about 10-15 secs before that, but I didn't put that in. It was a result of two arpeggios and their delays, and that's my fav part of the song.

DJ Glacial - Entropy

main melody and b-line...

i've always been the kinda person who starts at the beginning and tries to let the song grow into itself. i always kinda thought that if i started with a melody first the rest of the song would just kinda be filler. i don't know i'll have to try to start with a melody first sometime hehehe...

from the beginnning..

kick and bline

then perc

then the rest

I always start from the beginning to its just that you have to have a melody or lead either ready or in your head

or then again you could play with a bunch of sounds percussion and bass til you got something that stands out in your imagination but that could take a while


this is why I always start from the begining with a lead and melody and i have my bass percussion,stabs,fx as my foundation background etc

Clubkid

I usually get super stoned, and come up with wierd shit, like melody and bass.

then when i'm sober, i fix edit what i came up with, and add drums, and the rest.

create how you want to create! there is no right way to compose, arrange and produce a song.

do what you feel. thats what i do

regards


-KTW-
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I Start main lead / melody

Kick drum to master the track into compression,

backing (bass, strings etc.),

percussion (HiHats, Claps etc.),

any other faffy fart bits like swooshes blah blah blah etc.

tezz

Geeze, sounds like y'all are reading some type of manual on how to be inspired... I don't really understand the mindset.

It's not surgeory to me. I usually always have a beat going on. I get inspired, do a melody, do a beat to go with it, get pissed, scratch the melody and have something to work with next time I get inspired.

I can understand how commercial producers (commercials, movies, websites and so on) can say they start in a certain way, as I've done it before, but for those who just want to lay down a track for the fun of it..."well, first I do this, then that...hmm no I should have done that first." Naw, just don't get it.

I've even read commercial producers telling others to just frikkin lay back and let it come to them rather than forcing it down.

Maybe you guys have a certain idea or mood you want to portray with your music and go about that formulaically? I can see that.

usually i always start with the main lead, after that, depending on that lead i start making second, third leads and strings and basslines,, then i start building percussion (kicks, hats, crash,etc etc..), then i play with the effects and thats it...
but everything start thanx to the main lead.

quote:

Originally posted by BTG I usually get super stoned, and come up with wierd shit, like melody and bass. then when i'm sober, i fix edit what i came up with, and add drums, and the rest.

Same here, except i come up with some decent stuff while stoned, but i never finish anything, that's my problem :/

quote:

Originally posted by gamertrav Same here, except i come up with some decent stuff while stoned, but i never finish anything, that's my problem :/

Totally agree dude! Sometimes when im tooo mashed the computer starts confusing me, and im not entirely sure whats going on....!

Its times like these that your 'BED' is sometimes better than 'COMPOSING'.

Regards


KTW
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Melodies

I have a strong point in making melodies so I try to start there with the Break. I build the song around that since you can set your key signature and bassline then bring in the drums & percussion. This also helps with setting levels when building the rest of the song.

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