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Posted by Abbas on Sep-26-2003 16:10:

Feelin' home sick

Hey All TOTAs,I moved down to Alexandria, VA for a one year internship about a month ago, and I'm feeling quite homesick....

nothing beats Canada I must say, I know the US is not too far away but its just a totally different place, there is a feeling of insecurity, and not because of "terrorists" but just the way the country is....

For example, my first time into a bank, I witnessed a robbery where the guy snatched $700 from over the counter and took off in a Benz....my question is why do u steal $700 if you drive a Benz? or maybe its stolen too!!!

Another is seeing 6 cop cars parked on the side of the street arresting someone for God knows what, and oh yeah, cops cops everywhere!

My first night here I met (he found me!) a guy who just spent 10 years in jail, and he was asking for directions and wondering why people wont help him....here is a tip, dont tell them you just got out of jail!!!

The news here is ridiculous where all channels spend 5 minutes talking about J.Lo and Ben Afleck breaking up and yet hardly no mention of whats going on the world...

I know I'm rambling, so I'll stop.....I'm glad im not here permanently, and I don't I'd ever wanna be!!!!

and another thing I miss, the de-crim of marijuana

Abbas


Posted by AmbiguousBliss on Sep-26-2003 16:19:

Try and make the best of your time there! (I know, it seems easier said than done.) Get all you can out of this experience, and before you know it, you'll be right back in good old Ontario.


Posted by LKD on Sep-26-2003 16:33:

dont worry..u hav eonly 10 months left


Posted by djshan on Sep-27-2003 11:19:

nah, i would go to the states instead of canada. i know how bad usa is, but theres lots of places to go to. here its only toronto, or vancouver, thats about it. and also theres too many immigrants taking over this country, i hardly see natural canadians. but neways i still prefer usa.


Posted by Rocco on Sep-27-2003 13:17:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_moonshine
nah, i would go to the states instead of canada. i know how bad usa is, but theres lots of places to go to. here its only toronto, or vancouver, thats about it. and also theres too many immigrants taking over this country, i hardly see natural canadians. but neways i still prefer usa.


ok go right ahead buddy

and don't come back and say " u didn't tell me so" cuz "i told u so"


Posted by dEsidEL on Sep-27-2003 15:38:

KarateKid

quote:
Originally posted by dj_moonshine
nah, i would go to the states instead of canada. i know how bad usa is, but theres lots of places to go to. here its only toronto, or vancouver, thats about it. and also theres too many immigrants taking over this country, i hardly see natural canadians. but neways i still prefer usa.


what's a natural Canadian .. ?

btw. the birth rate is dropping in Canada which means that without immigrants the overall population of this country would be on the decline. We need immigration in order to help support the aging population in this country. But i guess you might see it a little differently ..


Posted by drgoodvibe on Sep-27-2003 15:47:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_moonshine
nah, i would go to the states instead of canada. i know how bad usa is, but theres lots of places to go to. here its only toronto, or vancouver, thats about it. and also theres too many immigrants taking over this country, i hardly see natural canadians. but neways i still prefer usa.


as compared to what? A natural American? Aren't all Canadians and Americans immigrants in the long run ANYWAY? Immigrants bring money into the economy, it just makes for good business. Canada being full of "immigrants" is just racist talk in my eyes..


Posted by Fir3start3r on Sep-27-2003 15:57:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_moonshine
nah, i would go to the states instead of canada. i know how bad usa is, but theres lots of places to go to. here its only toronto, or vancouver, thats about it. and also theres too many immigrants taking over this country, i hardly see natural canadians. but neways i still prefer usa.


Hopefully you're just talking the ignorant ones that don't feel they have to make a change (ie. our laws) when they arrive?

I don't mind people who bring their culture with them, in fact I love it.
But it's the ones who feel they don't have to adjust to Canada and decide to live in their own little world that bug me...

Anyways man, I feel your pain cause I don't think I could do it either.
And I thought they were paranoid before 9-11...(see "Bowling for Combine" and you'll see exactly what I mean)

Hang in there!!


Posted by dEsidEL on Sep-27-2003 15:58:

KarateKid

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r

But it's the ones who feel they don't have to adjust to Canada and decide to live in their own little world that bug me...


MAINLAND & STEELES !!


Posted by drgoodvibe on Sep-27-2003 16:08:

to "adjust to Canada" means what exactly? See it's interesting becuase i'm taking a class on this very exactly idea. Becuase we believe in having such a diverse and multicultural state, do you think it hinders the promotion of national unity in Canada?


Posted by djshan on Sep-27-2003 16:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Hopefully you're just talking the ignorant ones that don't feel they have to make a change (ie. our laws) when they arrive?

But it's the ones who feel they don't have to adjust to Canada and decide to live in their own little world that bug me...

Anyways man, I feel your pain cause I don't think I could do it either.
And I thought they were paranoid before 9-11...(see "Bowling for Combine" and you'll see exactly what I mean)

Hang in there!!


well i didnt mean to be racist but some of them shouldnt be here, like u said, the ones who decide to live on their own and isolate themselves from others. also the ones who create gang groups just bcuz thier from a special country, and the ones who just try to represent too much about their culture without knowing anything about their own culture. i hope this makes sense. im not really good at english. im like tieso, hehe.


Posted by dEsidEL on Sep-27-2003 16:14:

KarateKid

quote:
Originally posted by drgoodvibe
to "adjust to Canada" means what exactly? See it's interesting becuase i'm taking a class on this very exactly idea. Becuase we believe in having such a diverse and multicultural state, do you think it hinders the promotion of national unity in Canada?


"adjust" could mean something as simple as learning to speak English to as far reaching as assimilating with the rest of society ..

to everyone it's going to mean something different. Jeff what's your definition .. ?


Posted by dEsidEL on Sep-27-2003 16:16:

KarateKid

quote:
Originally posted by dj_moonshine
well i didnt mean to be racist but some of them shouldnt be here, like u said, the ones who decide to live on their own and isolate themselves from others. also the ones who create gang groups just bcuz thier from a special country, and the ones who just try to represent too much about their culture without knowing anything about their own culture. i hope this makes sense. im not really good at english. im like tieso, hehe.



meh i doubt u'll find any nation with a perfect immigration system. Every group of people are gonna have their bad apples.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Sep-27-2003 19:04:

quote:
Originally posted by drgoodvibe
to "adjust to Canada" means what exactly? See it's interesting becuase i'm taking a class on this very exactly idea. Becuase we believe in having such a diverse and multicultural state, do you think it hinders the promotion of national unity in Canada?


Not at all...

The "hinderers" (and this is just my opinion) are the ones that come to this country and can't seem to intergrate or care to abide by our laws or culture.

So what is our culture is the next obvious question.
We are a country made of immigrants right?
True.
I'd have to say that I have just as many 'immigrant' friends as I have 'Canadian' friends and I love their culture, worldly views and FOOD!! (Big ups on the food part)

Then there are the ones that have been here for like...20 years and don't know anything past their own neighborhood.
I'll site a specific example for you because I didn't believe it either...

My wife went to B.C. last year to visit her Dad who is on Vancouver Island.
Before she went, she visited her God Mother (a nice older Italian women) and mentioned to her that she was going on this trip.
The husband overhears this and starts asking about the monkeys and kangaroos.... I swear to God... lol.

Sure, he pays his taxes and contributed to society, blah, blah, but wtf?? hahaha...


Posted by smcmulli on Sep-27-2003 20:14:

damn, americans are stupid

sorry for who ever is american and is reading this...


Posted by Abbas on Sep-27-2003 21:37:

The "hinderers" as you call them are the people who have been born here, who sponge welfare off the government because they're too fucking lazy to get off their ass....and this is from my own observation...I recall hearing a " natural Canadian" say, I make more money than my friend who works by living off welfare

I'm an immigrant to Canada, and I know many of them, none of us are "hinderers" to the country or to the economy because we come here to make somethign out of ourselves from the misery and the shitty places we were living in....

nobody is perfect as someone said, everyone has their bad apples...

and as for the US being a better place for having less immigrants, well then come here and live and find out for yourself.....Americans are selfish an only care about themselves and their country, nobody else.....and im not basing this on Bush or the government but off people I have met here already.....its a pure capitalist country where the poor eat shit and the wealthy get wealthier....great country!


Posted by dEsidEL on Sep-27-2003 21:56:

KarateKid

quote:
Originally posted by Abbas

and as for the US being a better place for having less immigrants, well then come here and live and find out for yourself.....Americans are selfish an only care about themselves and their country, nobody else.....and im not basing this on Bush or the government but off people I have met here already.....its a pure capitalist country where the poor eat shit and the wealthy get wealthier....great country!


i believe the US actually loses more money from social claims to illegal immigrants per capita than Canada does or so I've heard.


Posted by disko-kandi on Sep-27-2003 21:56:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL
what's a natural Canadian .. ?

btw. the birth rate is dropping in Canada which means that without immigrants the overall population of this country would be on the decline. We need immigration in order to help support the aging population in this country. But i guess you might see it a little differently ..


dido!!

omg!! don't even get me started on this topic!! there is no so-called 'natural' canadian. canada is an immigration country and immigrants are the ones who make/ have made this country as we know it -despite the fact that the first settlers just 'veni, vidi, vici', on the expense of the human rights of our aboriginies. noone ever asked them!
just a couple of random thoughts:
...and today, even though our lovely mr coderre tries to change and overhaul the existing, outdated immigration laws, he does not look out for the future of 'our' country, and he especially does not look out for those who most desparately and genuinely need protection!
...canada needs immigrants for a flourishing economy ...and yes, hence the most recent change > the decrease in the famous point system to qualify as a 'skilled worker immigrant'!
we've got enough space! we should choose to look at our similarities rather than our differences! we have the chance to change what other western european countries have done wrong.
Canada has been chosen as the #1 country 4 years in a row by the United Nations. Let's keep it that way!


Posted by j_spot on Sep-27-2003 23:36:

moonshine, you want away from 'Immigrants'?

move to the prairies.



Im starting to get homesick. only 12 weeks till I go home tho.(for 2 weeks)
The people Im meeting are nice
the rest of the city sucks. I have only met 2 nice people in any service industry since I came here. One was a taxi driver, the other works the front desk at a hotel.
That taxi guy got a fat tip.


but to Disko-Kandi, we lost our #1 spot this year, I think we slipped to 4, behind all the scandanavian countrie(I think..not certain)

anyways, I love Canada. eh!


Posted by dEsidEL on Sep-27-2003 23:40:

KarateKid

quote:
Originally posted by j_spot
moonshine, you want away from 'Immigrants'?

move to the prairies.



that's part of the problem .. the areas of Canada that need immigrants the most aren't getting enough. They're all choosing to move into the already crammed urban centers ie. TO, MTL, and VC and it's creating a saturation of skilled workers in places where there aren't enough jobs for everyone. it's why some of you might find it so hard to find work these days because of the over abundance of qualified professionals we hav in this city. Seriously there are so many opportunities out West and in the Maritimes where they desperately need an influx in population .. but the problem is that people here seem to be too content, and stationary with their surroundings to want to move..

i think it's a comfort level thing.. but eventually something will hav to give ..


Posted by DigiNut on Sep-27-2003 23:46:

I for one would not hesitate to move to the west coast if I could get a better job there. I'd miss the Toronto scene and TOTA, but I think that's just about all I'd miss! J's right, this city isn't such a friendly one... and it's so hard to find work... immigration is good for our country in theory, but the poor way it's handled by the Canadian government gives it a negative impact in practice (IMHO of course).


Posted by Fir3start3r on Sep-28-2003 00:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Abbas
The "hinderers" as you call them are the people who have been born here, who sponge welfare off the government because they're too fucking lazy to get off their ass....and this is from my own observation...I recall hearing a " natural Canadian" say, I make more money than my friend who works by living off welfare

I'm an immigrant to Canada, and I know many of them, none of us are "hinderers" to the country or to the economy because we come here to make somethign out of ourselves from the misery and the shitty places we were living in....


And that's awesome...

but you're right...there are lazy-ass ones here already too...

It's not about where you were born, it's about what you're doing with your life NOW...


Do it.
Do it right.
Do it right now.


Posted by djshan on Sep-28-2003 05:31:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL
that's part of the problem .. the areas of Canada that need immigrants the most aren't getting enough. They're all choosing to move into the already crammed urban centers ie. TO, MTL, and VC and it's creating a saturation of skilled workers in places where there aren't enough jobs for everyone. it's why some of you might find it so hard to find work these days because of the over abundance of qualified professionals we hav in this city. Seriously there are so many opportunities out West and in the Maritimes where they desperately need an influx in population .. but the problem is that people here seem to be too content, and stationary with their surroundings to want to move..

i think it's a comfort level thing.. but eventually something will hav to give ..


well i dont want to get into the subject of racism or neting, but their is just one group of people i dont like, im not going to mention it. im sorry if this sounds rude, but i have no other way of explaining it.


Posted by tatgirl on Sep-28-2003 08:17:

Abbas- you're in my hometown now (except I'm really from Montgomery County, MD). Maybe I'll catch u at Glow on Oct 25th for Johan Gielen?


Posted by Abbas on Sep-28-2003 22:20:

quote:
Originally posted by tatgirl
Abbas- you're in my hometown now (except I'm really from Montgomery County, MD). Maybe I'll catch u at Glow on Oct 25th for Johan Gielen?


Hey tatgirl.....

I was actually planning on going (alone, not really by choice) to PvD on the 11th....but if you're planning to catch Gielen on the 25th, I wouldnt mind going to that instead!


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