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Posted by whiskers on Oct-05-2003 17:45:

new pc configuration

how does this look:



Case: Super Case MidTower ATX, 300 Watt - Beige $45.00

AMD CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2400+ (2.00 GHz, 256k Cache) $97.00

Heatsink/Fan Options: Use a CoolerMaster DP5-7JD1B Fan (Silent Cooler) $0.00

Motherboard: GigaByte GA-7VT600-L with Audio/LAN (400MHz FSB) $83.00

RAM (1st stick): Corsair XMS 512 MB PC3200 DDR400, Heat Spreaders $147.00

DVD Drive (Read Only): Pioneer DVD-120 IDE DVD, 16x40x, Drive Only - Beige $55.00

Video Card: ATI RADEON 9000 128MB w/TV-Out (OEM) $70.00

Sound Card: SoundBlaster Live 5.1 (OEM) $35.00

Total: $ 532


Posted by joeh on Oct-05-2003 17:58:

Buying my christmas present already eh?


nice one


Posted by ThaDevil on Oct-05-2003 17:58:

Re: new pc configuration

quote:
Originally posted by whiskers
how does this look:

Case: Super Case MidTower ATX, 300 Watt - Beige $45.00

AMD CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2400+ (2.00 GHz, 256k Cache) $97.00

Heatsink/Fan Options: Use a CoolerMaster DP5-7JD1B Fan (Silent Cooler) $0.00

Motherboard: GigaByte GA-7VT600-L with Audio/LAN (400MHz FSB) $83.00

RAM (1st stick): Corsair XMS 512 MB PC3200 DDR400, Heat Spreaders $147.00

DVD Drive (Read Only): Pioneer DVD-120 IDE DVD, 16x40x, Drive Only - Beige $55.00

Video Card: ATI RADEON 9000 128MB w/TV-Out (OEM) $70.00

Sound Card: SoundBlaster Live 5.1 (OEM) $35.00

Total: $ 532


Case: Super Case MidTower ATX, 300 Watt - Beige $45.00 - SUCKS
AMD CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2400+ (2.00 GHz, 256k Cache) $97.00 - OK (and its not 2GHz)
Heatsink/Fan Options: Use a CoolerMaster DP5-7JD1B Fan (Silent Cooler) $0.00 - SUCKS
Motherboard: GigaByte GA-7VT600-L with Audio/LAN (400MHz FSB) $83.00 - DECENT
RAM (1st stick): Corsair XMS 512 MB PC3200 DDR400, Heat Spreaders $147.00 - EXCELLENT!! (I got the same one)
DVD Drive (Read Only): Pioneer DVD-120 IDE DVD, 16x40x, Drive Only - Beige $55.00 - GOOD
Video Card: ATI RADEON 9000 128MB w/TV-Out (OEM) $70.00 0 - OK
Sound Card: SoundBlaster Live 5.1 (OEM) $35.00 - SUCKS


Posted by whiskers on Oct-05-2003 18:18:

Re: Re: new pc configuration

quote:
Originally posted by ThaDevil
Case: Super Case MidTower ATX, 300 Watt - Beige $45.00 - SUCKS
AMD CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2400+ (2.00 GHz, 256k Cache) $97.00 - OK (and its not 2GHz)
Heatsink/Fan Options: Use a CoolerMaster DP5-7JD1B Fan (Silent Cooler) $0.00 - SUCKS
Motherboard: GigaByte GA-7VT600-L with Audio/LAN (400MHz FSB) $83.00 - DECENT
RAM (1st stick): Corsair XMS 512 MB PC3200 DDR400, Heat Spreaders $147.00 - EXCELLENT!! (I got the same one)
DVD Drive (Read Only): Pioneer DVD-120 IDE DVD, 16x40x, Drive Only - Beige $55.00 - GOOD
Video Card: ATI RADEON 9000 128MB w/TV-Out (OEM) $70.00 0 - OK
Sound Card: SoundBlaster Live 5.1 (OEM) $35.00 - SUCKS



i don't need a pimped out pc, just something that runs ok and plays movies and isn't expensive.


Posted by DigiNut on Oct-05-2003 18:20:

Integrated audio is yecch, I'd go for a motherboard from Asus or MSI that doesn't have any integrated crap and just get a $20 LAN card.

Sound card is old, I'm sure it doesn't cost that much more to get an Audigy at this point.

Avoid power supplies integrated into the case... they do suck. I'd recommend Enermax, they can be pricey but it's well worth it.

You also haven't mentioned anything about hard drives... planning on running your computer without one? If you want to use your existing one, keep in mind that it may slow your system down considerably if it's old.

quote:
Originally posted by whiskers
i don't need a pimped out pc, just something that runs ok and plays movies and isn't expensive.

You asked for people's opinions, so they gave 'em... wasn't that the point of the thread?


Posted by moncster on Oct-05-2003 18:22:

Get a Volcano for the fan


Posted by whiskers on Oct-05-2003 18:36:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
You asked for people's opinions, so they gave 'em... wasn't that the point of the thread?



maybe he was thinking that i need to spend $400 on a video card and etc. just telling you that i don't need anything special.


i have a network card and 2 relatively new hard drives, so i'm not looking for those. the problem is that the fan on my current motherboard is going to blow out soon and i can't get a replacement, plus i'm tired of the integrated videocard shit... i'd get a new mobo / cpu + video card, but i don't know about compatibility and whether my current case / power supply will work with it. i hate ibm and retail pcs.


Posted by DigiNut on Oct-05-2003 18:55:

quote:
Originally posted by whiskers
maybe he was thinking that i need to spend $400 on a video card and etc. just telling you that i don't need anything special.


i have a network card and 2 relatively new hard drives, so i'm not looking for those. the problem is that the fan on my current motherboard is going to blow out soon and i can't get a replacement, plus i'm tired of the integrated videocard shit... i'd get a new mobo / cpu + video card, but i don't know about compatibility and whether my current case / power supply will work with it. i hate ibm and retail pcs.

Well, proprietary cases like Dell and IBM often don't work with standard parts, but you have to check on it, there's a possibility.

Anyway, if you already have a LAN card and you're getting a new sound card, then you definitely don't want to get that Gigabyte board. Get something that doesn't have any integrated parts.

You also say that you want something that plays movies... well, if you're planning to play DVDs, you definitely need either a GOOD video card or a special decoder card. Even for regular movies, you'd probably want something decent, not $400, but definitely no less than what you listed. I'd still recommend an Audigy and a different power supply, because the problem with integrated power supplies is that they're unreliable and they blow out, which can damage your motherboard and everything else in the process.


Posted by o0moonman0o on Oct-05-2003 19:16:

Re: Re: new pc configuration

quote:
Originally posted by ThaDevil
Case: Super Case MidTower ATX, 300 Watt - Beige $45.00 - SUCKS
AMD CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2400+ (2.00 GHz, 256k Cache) $97.00 - OK (and its not 2GHz)


2400+ is 2ghz.


Posted by allstar on Oct-05-2003 19:20:

Re: Re: Re: new pc configuration

quote:
Originally posted by o0moonman0o
2400+ is 2ghz.


Exactly. It's just that a 2gig AMD is the equivalent of a 2.4gig version of it's counterpart.


Posted by kr00t0n on Oct-05-2003 19:33:

Lol, thats almost exactly like my setup, tho I just recently bumped RAM up to 1.5G, tho its generic and no where near as nice as corsair

I got same mobo and cpu, they are great value for money, but i went for a Sonic Xplosion soundcard, GREAT value for money there

As for cooling, that which you picked will be fine, you not looking to overclock i take it? If so you aint got the best kit for that, hence me upgrading next month, but what you've got is a solid system matey


Posted by ThaDevil on Oct-05-2003 20:14:

Re: Re: Re: new pc configuration

quote:
Originally posted by whiskers
i don't need a pimped out pc, just something that runs ok and plays movies and isn't expensive.


Then yea, your all set if thats all you gonna do, dont expect excellent gaming on this PC


Posted by cryo on Oct-05-2003 20:18:

2500+ is better, Barton core or even 2800+
asus a7n8x deluxe is good too


Posted by ThaDevil on Oct-05-2003 20:18:

If I was you I'd spend 200 bucks more and get a hella of alot better system.
This is my system and I spent less then 800 bucks on it!

Asus A7N8X Deluxe (Revision 2.00)(Bios 1004)
Athlon XP 1700 @ 2.2GHZ (11x200)
SLK800A w/ SFII @ 32C/36C (3000RPM)
Corsair XMS 1x512MB PC3200 (400MHZ)
Maxtor 60GB + 60GB (8MB Cache / 7200RPM)
Radeon 9700 Pro (330/350)
TDK CDR-W 50X24X52
Antec TruePower 430W <----- came with my Antec case (saved me 100+ dollars).
And whoever said that the PS that come with cases suck, hes an idiot, Antec makes on of the best PS on the market.


Posted by ThaDevil on Oct-05-2003 20:19:

quote:
Originally posted by cryo
2500+ is better, Barton core or even 2800+
asus a7n8x deluxe is good too


Im getting Barton 2500 to replace my overclocked 1700.
The reason Im getting the Barton 2500 is because I heard they overclock like beasts

BTW, Asus A7N8X Deluxe Rev2 is the best nFroce2 motherboard on the market right now.


Posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 on Oct-05-2003 20:22:

Get a Soundblaster Audigy 2...you will be pleased.


Posted by ThaDevil on Oct-05-2003 20:24:

BTW, Asus A7N8X Deluxe comes with Soundstorm audio, which is one of the best soundscrads out there, and it beats Audigy 2 by miles.
You should do some research man.


Posted by whiskers on Oct-05-2003 20:52:

Re: Re: Re: Re: new pc configuration

quote:
Originally posted by ThaDevil
Then yea, your all set if thats all you gonna do, dont expect excellent gaming on this PC



well, i won't run high-fps games on it, like hl2 or ut2003, but mostly older shit like RA2 and UT and even then, i won't run them that often...


this is from http://www.envisioncs.net/ddrcpucalc.cfm btw



Case: Antec Sonata Piano Black MidTower with Antec True 380w & Front USB $129.00

AMD CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2400+ (2.00 GHz, 256k Cache) $97.00
Heatsink/Fan Options: Use a ThermalTake Volcano 11 $19.00

Motherboard: Asus A7N8X Deluxe with Audio/Dual LAN/S.ATA/FireWire (400MHz FSB) $140.00

RAM (1st stick): Corsair XMS 512 MB PC3200 DDR400, Heat Spreaders $147.00

DVD Drive (Read Only): Pioneer DVD-120 IDE DVD, 16x40x, Drive Only - Beige $55.00

Video Card: ATI RADEON 9000 128MB w/TV-Out (OEM) $70.00

TOTAL: $657
--------------------------------------------------------------


that is like perfect for me in terms of what i'd want, i'm just thinking that i don't wanna overpay for stuff that i won't really need... i just wanna watch divx videoclips and not be annoyed by lag.


Posted by ThaDevil on Oct-05-2003 21:11:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: new pc configuration

quote:
Originally posted by whiskers
well, i won't run high-fps games on it, like hl2 or ut2003, but mostly older shit like RA2 and UT and even then, i won't run them that often...


this is from http://www.envisioncs.net/ddrcpucalc.cfm btw



Case: Antec Sonata Piano Black MidTower with Antec True 380w & Front USB $129.00

AMD CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2400+ (2.00 GHz, 256k Cache) $97.00
Heatsink/Fan Options: Use a ThermalTake Volcano 11 $19.00

Motherboard: Asus A7N8X Deluxe with Audio/Dual LAN/S.ATA/FireWire (400MHz FSB) $140.00

RAM (1st stick): Corsair XMS 512 MB PC3200 DDR400, Heat Spreaders $147.00

DVD Drive (Read Only): Pioneer DVD-120 IDE DVD, 16x40x, Drive Only - Beige $55.00

Video Card: ATI RADEON 9000 128MB w/TV-Out (OEM) $70.00

TOTAL: $657
--------------------------------------------------------------


Dude, fuck that website, newegg.com has the BEST prices on the Internet!!!
I built my PC by buying EVERYTHING I need from them, their shipping and customer service is untouchable.
For expample, your about to buy an Asus A7N8X DX for 140, when you can buy it from newegg.com for $120 (thats how much I bought mine for).


Posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 on Oct-05-2003 21:25:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: new pc configuration

quote:
Originally posted by ThaDevil
Dude, fuck that website, newegg.com has the BEST prices on the Internet!!!


Yeah, you really CAN NOT beat New Egg's prices for how fast they process the order & get it to you.

Sure you might find it cheaper somewhere else (but rarely) and that company usually does not have a good track record. All of my internal computer parts came from New Egg and the case plus visual parts from Xoxide.com

Monitor, Speakers, keyboard and mouse all from New Egg as well.


Posted by ThaDevil on Oct-05-2003 21:29:

Rarely if ever anyone can beat neweggs prices, but their shipping, product quality and customer service is untouchable.
I ordered an XP2500 from them on Friday, its gonna be here Monday


Posted by whiskers on Oct-05-2003 21:36:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: new pc configuration

quote:
Originally posted by ThaDevil
Dude, fuck that website, newegg.com has the BEST prices on the Internet!!!
I built my PC by buying EVERYTHING I need from them, their shipping and customer service is untouchable.
For expample, your about to buy an Asus A7N8X DX for 140, when you can buy it from newegg.com for $120 (thats how much I bought mine for).


ANTEC LIFE STYLE SERIES SONATA PIANO BLACK Model# Sonata w/ ANTEC TRUE380 380W Power Supply $95.00
Pioneer 16X DVD-ROM Model DVD-120S Slot Load Drive OEM $38.99
CORSAIR MEMORY XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series (Twin Pack) 512MB(2 x 256MB) 2x(32MX64) TWINX512-3200C2PT With Platinum - Silver Heat Spreader.Retail $138.50
Asus Motherboard for AMD Athlon XP/Duron Processors, Model# A7N8X Deluxe Retail $125.00
AMD ATHLON XP 2400 /266 FSB PROCESSOR CPU - RETAIL $82.00
Sapphire ATI OEM RADEON 9000 Atlantis 128MB TV out, , Powered by ATI ,BULK $66.00


holy shit, Grand Total � $ 545.49


thank you very much for that site! now if i order that all and it gets here, i'm gonna have a field day assembling everything... is it really difficult to do so? i mean, i have experience with switching hds and cards and the such, but i'm not too sure i can put a cpu onto a mobo and connect all the leds correctly.

i still have a question about the case + power supply though. is the one i want (http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage...-129-127-06.jpg) decent enough, or should i get something else?


Posted by ThaDevil on Oct-05-2003 21:51:

whiskers no prob man, glad to help out a fellow trancer
About the case, it looks allright.
About CPU istallation, you need to be very careful, one wrong move or placement and the part can be useless.


Posted by DigiNut on Oct-05-2003 22:37:

quote:
Originally posted by ThaDevil
And whoever said that the PS that come with cases suck, hes an idiot, Antec makes on of the best PS on the market.

Yes, you seem to think you're very smart on this issue.

Whatever man, there's absolutely no reason to resort to personal insults when you disagree with someone's opinion (which I stand by - Antec makes decent power supplies but the ones included with their cases are nowhere near as reliable as the ones that Enermax sells standalone). So cut it out alright? You don't know anything about me to be saying I'm an "idiot" (except maybe for the fact that I'm not talking about drugs 24/7).

As for soundcards, you're entitled to your opinion, but I'd like to see your "research" that proves it.

Anyway whiskers, the new setup's looking alright I guess, I still dislike integrated motherboards but I'm not going to start a whole shit storm over it. Just be careful about installing the heatsink, if it's not secured then the processor will melt, but if you push too hard you'll crush the processor die.


Posted by drizzt81 on Oct-05-2003 22:56:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: new pc configuration

quote:
Originally posted by ThaDevil
I built my PC by buying EVERYTHING I need from them, their shipping and customer service is untouchable


I agree mostly.. Newegg is KILLER for most stuff. There are few things that you can find a better deal on, but up to now, i have had NOTHING bad to say about newegg. Fast shipping, great prices, cheap shipping cost.. etc. INCREDIBLE place to shop from.

as on your parts:

Get an NForce Mobo with integrated audio and LAN. unlike what some people think, it is DEFINETELY good. Bought my Abit Nforce mobo back in February and although it is the SHITTIER older version I got my FSB to 200MHz (400 DDR) and that gave me a nice overclock on my CPU. The sound is fine unless you want to do something super-special, but in that case you should know more about soundcards than me. The integrated video isn't the best of them all, so maybe you'd want to shell out some of the $$ you save on the LAN and Soundcard for a nice RADEON. 128MB are still overkill, but i don't think you can get anything smaller than that at this point.

anyway, get yourself a NICE power-supply. Enermax' are definetely sweet and you will be able to keep them through many cases. While some people might suggest a PSU is a PSU is a PSU that isn't really the case. Some 300W PSU don't even supply 250W and their rails will drop below certain tresholds and your pc will crash. Trust me, and many other people who KNOW THEIR STUFF on this one, if you get a shitty power supply and you really want to tweak your system, you will NOT be happy. I have made the mistake in the past and learned from it....

GREG


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