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Posted by ManTrance on Oct-07-2003 12:09:

Whats better than FL Studio 4

I have only been using FL Studio for the last month & a half but I am abolsutely blown back. Think its amazing, however I have heard of many other similar software packages used by other members.

Could someone please advise to me whats better than FL Studio and why??

THANKS PEOPLE!!!


Posted by Massive84 on Oct-07-2003 12:51:

You know thats a dumb question...The quality of Music , lies in the mind of the producer, and not the software, thats my opinion..

THOUGH alot of sofware and hardware make things SOMETIMES easier


Posted by ManTrance on Oct-07-2003 12:55:

Yeah. I'm feeling ya, but its just I don't want 2 spend all my time mastering FL Studio, where there is something else better out there 2b mastered, where I can apply my creativity with greater ease and better result.

Ur right its all 2 do with the producing, but you can't create g8r tracks on crap software. Simple as.


Posted by dbl on Oct-07-2003 13:55:

quote:
Originally posted by ManTrance
but you can't create g8r tracks on crap software. Simple as.


that means that you think that fruitystudio is crap.
which means that you think alot of producers here are crap
and also means that you think flutlicht, SHOKK, cosmicman etc... etc... also is crap.

which means that you are crap thinking that


Posted by ManTrance on Oct-07-2003 14:03:

NO. Not at all.

Don't get me wrong. Don't wanna make ne enemies. I'm new here, wanna make friends.

I think Fruity Loops is amazing. Didn't realise that a lot of the stuff people make is on Fruity Loops.

What software/hardware you using??
Any chance of a link to one of your tracks?


Posted by Sean Walsh on Oct-07-2003 16:07:

If you're going to be using VSTi's then it really doesn't matter what program you use IMO. Use whichever you feel most comfortable with.

I chose buzz because it was recommended to me, because James Holden used it, and most importantly because it was free.


Posted by dbl on Oct-07-2003 17:18:

quote:
Originally posted by ManTrance
NO. Not at all.

Don't get me wrong. Don't wanna make ne enemies. I'm new here, wanna make friends.

I think Fruity Loops is amazing. Didn't realise that a lot of the stuff people make is on Fruity Loops.

What software/hardware you using??
Any chance of a link to one of your tracks?


i'm just using fruitystudio with some VST's.

and HERE you have a track i have made with it


Posted by Joi Lamusic on Oct-07-2003 21:33:

I am using Fruity and Reason. Thinking to get also a harware synth (Virus). But somehow I think the hardware synth would be diffucult to use... I am so used to use those softwares...

Buzz... So that is like Fruity?

dbl ...very cool soundin song And that is made with Fruity and some VSTs?? Cool...


Posted by State of Matter on Oct-07-2003 22:15:

Both songs on my site were made with FLP 3.56 and the Native Instruments Pro 53 VST synth. A sequencer is just a way to arrange the components you're trying to bring together, flp has little to do with the sound you get as long as you're using quality samples and synths.


Posted by dbl on Oct-07-2003 22:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Joi Lamusic
dbl ...very cool soundin song And that is made with Fruity and some VSTs?? Cool...


yepp.. fruity and some vst's.. thank's


Posted by Etherium on Oct-07-2003 23:46:

quote:
flp has little to do with the sound you get as long as you're using quality samples and synths.


True. The audio engine isn't as good as some other programs, so when it comes time to mixdown it might be best to go out to an external device.

Use quality samples in fruity and record out to an external device and you will get great results, IMHO.

And to Mantrance, knocking Fruity around here will get you sodomized, but you didn't know, so it's cool. Welcome to TA.


Posted by DJ Chrono on Oct-08-2003 03:49:

Propellerhead Reason 2.5 is a great program. I dont use FL, but I can assure you that reason is just as good.

The only downfall is there is no VST or DXI support.


Posted by SgtFoo on Oct-08-2003 04:36:

If you're serious about getting into the industry of sound production and composition, and want to master the 2 top industry standard applications, then you should get a copy of either or both of:
**Cubase
and/or
**Pro-Tools

you can get a "home-version" of pro-tools for about $1000 CDN. Cubase i believe has been pirated all over the net, otherwise, i think it runs around $500 CDN. Keep in mind, these 2 apps are used in top industry studios and need powerful computers and lots of time to read the manuals, and high quality listenning equipment.

Personally, I use FL-Studio-4-pro and love it. I just gotta get more samples and VSTs for it. I've got wicked stuff in the works on FL.


Posted by tranceman78 on Oct-08-2003 05:23:

Don't forget about Logic. After trying it at a friend's place I'm really tempted to buy a new Mac G5(never thought i'd hear myself say that) and Logic 6. BTW, I currently use an old copy of Cubase.


Posted by nic01445 on Oct-10-2003 02:46:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Chrono
Propellerhead Reason 2.5 is a great program. I dont use FL, but I can assure you that reason is just as good.

The only downfall is there is no VST or DXI support.


sucks about the no VST, but if you have rewire you can use both Cubase and Reason. dunno how it works though...


Posted by DJ Chrono on Oct-10-2003 03:40:

My audio teacher in college (who also runs a studio) said today that he actually prefers "Nuendo" to both protools and cubase. And yes, he has (and uses) all three programs. It is somewhat strange that people don't mention nuendo much at all.


Posted by Sirocco on Oct-10-2003 05:09:

nuendo is for media production..meaning video, audio, frame matching etc. it is also around 1500 dollars. so there you go tiger.


Posted by Joi Lamusic on Oct-10-2003 11:39:

Pro-Tools??


Posted by The Designer on Oct-10-2003 12:08:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Chrono
Propellerhead Reason 2.5 is a great program. I dont use FL, but I can assure you that reason is just as good.

The only downfall is there is no VST or DXI support.


Really?? I heard that Reason didn't sound fantastic.


Posted by dbl on Oct-10-2003 12:31:

quote:
Originally posted by The Designer
Really?? I heard that Reason didn't sound fantastic.


i'm a fruity user, but reason sounds good too.
but there is something it does with the sound quality too make it more CPU frienldy or something...

there is some thread that explains it all.... but fruity is the best.. you don't need anything more.. haha


Posted by nic01445 on Oct-11-2003 01:12:

quote:
Originally posted by dbl
there is some thread that explains it all.... but fruity is the best.. you don't need anything more.. haha


it really depends on what is easiest for someone to use.


Posted by Massive84 on Oct-11-2003 03:07:

Some people say , reason has not VST support, so its not that good...

Well let me tell you this..I was thinking in the same way, but you know after some friends helped me out with it, i liked it!!..

With reason you can make any sound you want, you dont need VST, VST makes stuff easy, like press trance preset and you have a nice sound..reason lacks the good presets though, so you have to learn..


Posted by dbl on Oct-11-2003 11:13:

quote:
Originally posted by nic01445
it really depends on what is easiest for someone to use.


heh... i was just kidding you know... notice the "haha" in the ending


Posted by Tom_cowan on Oct-11-2003 16:41:

Reasons quality, iv been using it since it came out but the lack of vst support is a total pain in the arse and can be very limiting. The rest of it is really good though and using rewire you can run reason into cubase and have vsts going in cubase. I used to do this but to be honest i absolutley hate cubase, its so user unfriendly and even though iv been using it for years it still pisses me off.

Fruity loops is sheer class, iv only just really got my head round it but it didnt take long tho, its simple to use and has everything you could possibly need, its got a certain smooth feel about it, i love reason and fruity loops both but up until now the only way of using both of them in a track was to run them both into cubase using rewire for reason and having fruity as a VST. I did for a while but you need a really powerful computer to run cubase, fruity and reason at the same time and all cubase is doing is linking the two together and wasting cpu power. The good news is fruity is getting rewire support meaning you can run reason into fruity, problem solved, you can just use both and use vst fx n fruity fx on any of the reason chanels(with rewire you get 64). As for cubase, i'd be quite happy if i never have to use it again.

Basicly fruitys the best but now theres no reason to choose between reason n fruity, just get em both.

Hope this helps.


Posted by hey cheggy on Oct-11-2003 17:15:

I was under the impression that only Rebirth would be supported by fruity's rewire capabilities.

Either way, running reason into cubase through rewire is a pain in the ass.


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