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another sony mdrv700 vs pioneer hdj1000 question..
i am debating on the purchase of these two headphones... i just want to know a few things.. i know there is a massive thread for headphones, but seriously there no way i am going to scan through hundreds of posts for just a few questions.. thanks
1) which set of headphones allow a higher volume without distortion? i know that the info about both (released from the manufactures) indicate that pioneer can support more power without distortion, but i want some personal opinions on this.
2) which provides a better bass for beatmatching?
3) which provides a better treble for beatmatching?
4) which is overall better for beatmatching?
sorry for breaking up 2-4, but these are important specifics i need to consider.. thanks
razzi
I have never used the Pioneer's but I will say this...
when I was looking for headphones, all I read was to stay away from the 700s. That they break pretty easily.
so if you buy the 700's you may end up with the Pioneers in less then a year anyway. So then you can compare.
What about the Sony 600's?
Well, the Sony MDR-V600's are even worse than the MDR-V700DJ's. The V600's have practically no bass response - only upper-bass/lower-midrange bloat. And the low mids tend to overpower and muddy the rest of the sound from the V600's.
I have a pair of Pioneers and can testify that they go very loud without distorting, they can probably pop your eardrums without breaking a sweat...the bass on the Pioneers is also very very loud but it doenst drain out the treble, they're a solid buy
Yeah the Pioneer's go quite a bit louder before distorting than the Sony's do. Plus mine broke in a year as well. Go with the pioneers.
YOu will have to test em yourself. However, from testing both Sony MDRV700 & Pioneers HDJ1000, I liked the Sony MDRV700 better. Specifically, I liked because I felt they were better to beatmatch. The Pioneers are a bit exaggerated with the space type sound, even when with the mono switch on...
Besides that, the ear cup hole where the small monitors are at are smaller on the pioneer, while the sony's monitor in the inner cup is much bigger, almost the size of the actual cup, which works well with one ear monitoring.
As you can see, you've got different opinions going into this thread. Its best you try them out for yourself. As far as loudness, ive never gotten the MDRV700s to distort, and they go loud without a problem,and they have serious bass. For the Pioneers, same thing, lots of bass and dont distort at high volumes.
The only downside to the Sony's is that engineering issue they have that the plastic swivel cracks on them.. that happened to mine about 15 months (and that happens to everyone), after using them. If you get to play out and you get paid $ for them, id say they would be worth it.
Read the headphone thread, it has a lot of good useful info. Another headphone worth mentioning, the one im using now is the Technics RPDJ1200 (black). Very nice sound, easy to beatmatch and comfortable, and also the Sennheiser HD25 (not the SP version).
I just got my Sony MDR-V700DJ in September on a labor day sale and paid extra $20 for 24 month replacement warranty, so I will make sure I break it in 24 months
I love them so far, after my $20 Labtec headphone it is like being wonderland so I am not the one to compare it with other headphones
hey everyone thanks for the replies!
do the sonys really break that easily? if they do that realllly sucks. has anyones lasted longer than 15 months? how unbreakable are the pioneers?
also for anyone who has tried both: which one can widthstand higher volumes without distorting while beatmatching? thanks everyone
i've had my sony 700s for two years and they still work fine and havent cracked nor do they show any signs that they are going to crack. thats not to say that they won't, cause alot of people's have cracked. i actually like my headphones, i dont know what all the bad press about the 700s is all about. if the crack alot, that sucks but they work fine before they crack. lots of bass, easy to beatmatch with. my only gripe is that they are pretty heavy.
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| Originally posted by razzi hey everyone thanks for the replies! do the sonys really break that easily? if they do that realllly sucks. has anyones lasted longer than 15 months? how unbreakable are the pioneers? also for anyone who has tried both: which one can widthstand higher volumes without distorting while beatmatching? thanks everyone |
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| Originally posted by bachatu I havent seen or heard any major complaints about the pioneer headphones, only like one person i read somewhere where theirs had snapped off the swivel part, and a couple of ppl here and there complained that one side was louder than the other, but i believe its minimal and no many ppl. |
I use my sonys 4 nights a week with no problems
Yes eventually they will crack, but eventually sennheisers pop a cone or the lead snaps, etc etc
Every pair has its ups and downs- they are all good phones- bottom line is you wont go wrong with any of them.
If my sonys crack after a year ive still got 52 weeks x 4 nights of use out of them....more than happy with that
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| Originally posted by bachatu Energized: what was the price with warranty and all? Just to compare to pioneer HDJ1000 final price. |
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| Originally posted by Freak I use my sonys 4 nights a week with no problems Yes eventually they will crack, but eventually sennheisers pop a cone or the lead snaps, etc etc Every pair has its ups and downs- they are all good phones- bottom line is you wont go wrong with any of them. If my sonys crack after a year ive still got 52 weeks x 4 nights of use out of them....more than happy with that |
go with Pioneer
I like the Sony's but they will break eventually...unless your that 1% of djs i know whose hasnt (yet)
Ok cha la cha la. i got both and used the 700's for 3 years straight with no problems. they were showing signs of wear and tear 2.5 years in so i decided to get the pioneer 1000's. if the 700's didn't wear and tear i would still be using them but what do you expect from headphons? to last 4eva? haha keep dreaming these companies are out to make money not lose it. any way. it all comes down to a personal preference/ear. 700's never cracked on me. and 1000's are great. test em out if you can. buy them both and check the return policy b4 hand to see if you can return for full cash refund. ect ect good luck. peace off.
yeah i want to try the pioneers, but i live in thailand right now, and no place lets you buy them and return them, or try them in the store. kind of sucks.. but i know a guy who just ordered some from the US, so when they get here i can test them out. hopefully that'll help. thanks to everyone who replied!
I just bought a pair of 1000's yesterday, and I'm about to take them back in about 5 minutes. I was using the Sony 600's, and actually liked them a lot. They are kind of big and klunky, but I was very happy with the quality of sound. Anyway, I had the money and decided to upgrade to the 1000s. I think, or at least hope that the ones I got were just defective, cause they suck. First of all, the left earphone is louder than the right. The sound is overall very very flat. I don't know if that's the technical term, but my Sony's seemed to have a much fuller sound, much easier to match beats, IMO. The main reason why I'm taking these back is that they have a very very low crackling noise that occurs when a song hits a long, high breakdown of sorts. I was playing AVB's Slipstream, and when that ambiance kicked in, I heard this faint static noise in the background. I hit theleft cup and it went away, and then 5 seconds later it came back aain. Hit it again, and it went away. I don't know if that's just the way the Pioneers are made, but these things are definitely not worth the $150 I spent for them if they are. Anyway, I'm taking them back after Ipost this, and am na go with the MDR-V700's.
Well, not everyone hears the same things. My experience with the Sonys is that they're WAY overpriced for the sound quality that they deliver. The MDR-V600, in particular, sound muddy, echoey, dull and lifeless all at the same time - and whatever bass coming out of that 'phone is loose and one-noted and doesn't go at all deep, and whatever treble excreted from it rings like an unmusical schoolbell. It would be an okay headphone - if it were priced at $20. But the typical superstore sells it at the full $100 MSRP! 
The MDR-V700DJ is almost as bad as the MDR-V600: Everything from the mid-bass through the midrange completely overpowers what little deep bass and upper midrange and treble that it delivers. And both of those Sonys have a strange peak in the mid-treble (roughly 10kHz), while leaving the frequencies surrounding the 10kHz region very recessed. Unfortunately, the frequencies that are recessed include the all-important upper midrange/lower treble region.
Sorry, guys, but neither the Sony MDR-V600 nor the MDR-V700DJ delivers enough upper midrange or lower treble response to hear the beats properly. And that upper midrange~lower treble region is very critical to beatmatching - even more so than emphasized mid-bass.
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| Originally posted by ShadySlim Well, not everyone hears the same things. My experience with the Sonys is that they're WAY overpriced for the sound quality that they deliver. The MDR-V600, in particular, sound muddy, echoey, dull and lifeless all at the same time - and whatever bass coming out of that 'phone is loose and one-noted and doesn't go at all deep, and whatever treble excreted from it rings like an unmusical schoolbell. It would be an okay headphone - if it were priced at $20. But the typical superstore sells it at the full $100 MSRP! The MDR-V700DJ is almost as bad as the MDR-V600: Everything from the mid-bass through the midrange completely overpowers what little deep bass and upper midrange and treble that it delivers. And both of those Sonys have a strange peak in the mid-treble (roughly 10kHz), while leaving the frequencies surrounding the 10kHz region very recessed. Unfortunately, the frequencies that are recessed include the all-important upper midrange/lower treble region.Sorry, guys, but neither the Sony MDR-V600 nor the MDR-V700DJ delivers enough upper midrange or lower treble response to hear the beats properly. And that upper midrange~lower treble region is very critical to beatmatching - even more so than emphasized mid-bass. |
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| Originally posted by razzi so what would you recommend? the hdj1000s, or the sn 25 that ive heard so much about? or anything else? im interested to see what everyone thinks about the sonys/pioneers |
i have no complaints about my sony 700s, just try to find someplace that sells them around cost. my friend works at a major electronics store and got me my 700s with his diso**** (which is like 5% above store cost or something) for $80. now im sorry but you cant beat that with a freaking stick.
SONY all the way...
and the new Pioneer phones that more and more DJ's begun to use - THEY ARE THE UGGLIEST PHONES I'VE EVER SEEN...of course quality is a bigger issue than looks, but they are waaay to big and sci-fi influenced...yuck...
I won't get rid of my 700's for a while...
sony 700s
I own the Sony 700s and think they're excellent. Both headphones have almost the same specs, but I personally like the 700s 'cuz I do one-side monitoring. It's true that the Pioneer cups are smaller, but you really can't go wrong with either one. If you have more cash, go for the HDJ-1000. If not, go with the Sony's. Simple as that.
As for wear and tear, it's all up to the owner. All headphones will break down eventually. I've had my 700s for almost over a year now and I don't have any problems with it.
Re: sony 700s
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| Originally posted by T:REBEL I own the Sony 700s and think they're excellent. Both headphones have almost the same specs, but I personally like the 700s 'cuz I do one-side monitoring. It's true that the Pioneer cups are smaller, but you really can't go wrong with either one. If you have more cash, go for the HDJ-1000. If not, go with the Sony's. Simple as that. As for wear and tear, it's all up to the owner. All headphones will break down eventually. I've had my 700s for almost over a year now and I don't have any problems with it. |
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