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Posted by squirrelly on Oct-17-2003 20:19:

Question Tattoo Discrimination?

In my comp class we were told to write a commentary on the subject of our choice. I chose tattoo discrimination, since I face it on a day to day basis. I, myself, have two tattoos. If I enter a store and I am wearing clothes that cover my tattoos, I am percieved as a normal, nice, girl. I can return to that same store, with the same woman helping me, but instead, say, wearing a tank top that shows my tattoo on my back, as well as a trace of the one on my hip, and I get a whole nother story. I am one of "those kids that start trouble".
Not only are you judged differently, but you have to be careful in where you apply to get a job. Can you cover your tattoo? If not, say bye bye to that job. Tattoos are supposed to be a form of art and are instead, a form of discrimination. My own mother screamed at me "white trash" when she saw my first one. My roomates family member said to her "you better be careful with how many tattoos you get, you dont want to seem like white trash, i mean, youre not in a band or anything, so its unacceptable for you". wtf is that?
So anyway, my question to you guys- Any of you have tattoos? Do you get discriminated against? What are your personal views on tattoos?


Posted by drizzt81 on Oct-17-2003 20:24:

don't have any, don't care too much, but if you have a ton of tatoos then i am likely to stare funny


Posted by Mebot on Oct-17-2003 20:25:

yah your right, tattoos are discriminated against, and the reality is that there is nothing we can really do about it.

Personally, i dont see a problem with tattoos, if its what you want, then go ahead. I wont judge you by ur tattoo. In fact some girls who get those tattoos on thier back in the form of a buttefly that go down to their asscrack is pretty sexy IMO.

Also i dont know if i will ever get a tattoo coz i would never be able to make up my mind what i want. You got to remember that it'll be with u for the rest of ur life (unless u get the laser removal surgery), so anything u get is permanent. Thats why im skeptical about tattoos..u gotta make sure to get something u wont regret later

my $.02


Posted by maria111 on Oct-17-2003 20:55:

i dont have any!!!i scared to death the pain


Posted by blazed it on Oct-17-2003 21:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Mebot


Personally, i dont see a problem with tattoos, if its what you want, then go ahead. I wont judge you by ur tattoo. In fact some girls who get those tattoos on thier back in the form of a buttefly that go down to their asscrack is pretty sexy IMO.



personally i'm am quite sick of the tattoo above the asscrack ( i call it the doggystyle tattoo)I think that if your going to get a tattoo get one that has some personal meaning for you or that it marks an important date in your life.

i mean that butterfly tattoo or maybe a fairy tattoo above the ass crack is so common i think maxim did a survey of 100 hottest girls next door os something of the 35 that had tattoos 25 % were butterfly's. Now i know the break down of that is like 8 people out of a hundred (i don't have the magazine with me so these are approximate numbers, but they should be quite close)but that should tell you something.

And never ever go to a tattoo parlor or bmezine.com and find a tattoo on there and copy it! you are cheapening somebody else's design also.

I plan on becoming a teacher, but i also plan on getting a tattoo. So if i get one it is going to have to be a discrete one, i am currently thinking of getting a back piece done. Ahh woe is me, i am fascinated by body mods and body art, although nothing extreme like trepanation or splitting my penis in half. More like piercings and tattoos. But they have to be tastefully done, not some slap dash random collection of piercings and tattoos.


btw sexiest tattoo ever was a sakura branch running down this girls back and arm.... omg!!


Posted by Chris Crossland on Oct-17-2003 21:17:

I'm gonna get one later on, but the only reason they discriminat them cause they too pussy to to go through the pain no offence maria111 but i think they are sweet i like to look at the designs and stuff if people actually looked at the tattoos on like a hard core guy or gal it shows thier personality i dunno people are just stupid


Posted by Emil on Oct-17-2003 21:41:

I currently have a half sleeve, ink goes from my shoulder to my elbow. I am also a surgery technology (surgeon assistant) student, and we are required to wear hospital scrubs at school. In my class, there are a couple of guys with ink, but theirs doesn't show. Mine, you can see the lower 15% of it, or more depending on arm movement. Nobody has asked about my tattoo, the teachers haven't said anything about it. There are pictures of classes before us, and some guy has tattoos on his forearms.

I have asked ST's who are curretnly employed about the attitude toward tattoos. The majority was it's ok, as more and more people are getting tattoos. But since when you get a tattoo it's considered an open wound, you can't work. So if I want to add any more tattoos, I have to get them BEFORE I start working. The open wound is bad, because I work in a sterile enviroment, helping a surgeon during operations.

Emil


Posted by Omegasox on Oct-17-2003 21:56:

It's obvious there is discrimination in the job market, because if you want an executive position you're pretty much screwed if you have a tattoo you can't cover up. In everyday society I don't think there is much of a problem, though.

As for girls getting the tattoo's above their ass, I have to agree with someone who stated above that it's getting old and you shouldn't marr your body just because it's the "cool" thing to do. For some of us, getting tattoo's have symbolic meaning, and for me personally, I have 3 tattoo's which all have a deep inner meaning. If you're doing it to look cool, you should think about doing something else more practical, because you'll probably regret it in a few years.

And I gladly accept that I'm a hypocrite when it comes to girls getting tattoo's. Even though I have some, I can't stand seeing girls with tattoo's. Some look decent, but the majority look disgusting. Especially when they get them on/near their breast, that just ruins it and looks trashy.


Posted by EliPsE on Oct-17-2003 22:11:

I agree with you. Samething with piercings also, although u can take them out. its a bitch to be removing them all the time. some of them


Posted by squirrelly on Oct-17-2003 22:36:

Smiley DJ

quote:
Originally posted by Omegasox
And I gladly accept that I'm a hypocrite when it comes to girls getting tattoo's. Even though I have some, I can't stand seeing girls with tattoo's. Some look decent, but the majority look disgusting. Especially when they get them on/near their breast, that just ruins it and looks trashy.

bwahahahhahaha!
This is true. When I see a girl with a tattoo on her breast or near it, it makes me want to puke. I think its disgusting as well. And the "hardass" effect is wasted, because it just seems more "dumbass" instead.
It is also true on what you commented on how people are just getting them now because they are trendy. Both of my tattoos have extreemly symbolic meaning, and both of them can be covered quite easily. I chose the places I did with thoughts to my future.
I personally, like tattoos, to an extent. Only if the tattoo is personal. I can't stand tribal, because unless youre a native american, it has no personal meanng. Nor does some chinese symbol that probably means the exact opposite of what you're told.


Posted by maria111 on Oct-17-2003 23:02:

quote:
Originally posted by gwrmarines
I'm gonna get one later on, but the only reason they discriminat them cause they too pussy to to go through the pain no offence maria111 but i think they are sweet i like to look at the designs and stuff if people actually looked at the tattoos on like a hard core guy or gal it shows thier personality i dunno people are just stupid



well isnt so much the pain but the idea of pain if you know what i mean!i just dont want to go alone to have a tattoo!anyone coming for a company?


Posted by Omegasox on Oct-17-2003 23:05:

quote:
Originally posted by maria111
well isnt so much the pain but the idea of pain if you know what i mean!i just dont want to go alone to have a tattoo!anyone coming for a company?


Tattoo's being painful is a huge misconception. The feeling when you're getting sticked is hard to put into words. It's more of an annoyance than anything.

Sure, after a while if you're getting a lot of detail work done, it will get "sore" as the artists hand rests on a spot previously done. But the soreness is to be expected if you're stuck laying there for 2+ hours with a needle going in and out constantly. But it's not painful in the least imo.


Posted by MindShifter on Oct-17-2003 23:14:

quote:
Originally posted by blazed it
btw sexiest tattoo ever was a sakura branch running down this girls back and arm.... omg!!


PICS OR STFU!!!!!!!!!!!


I totally understand this, even though I don't have any tats, I used to have a lot of piercings, but I had to take them out for work (imagine that one!, and b/c my labret was rubbing my gum line down ) My best friends father (a guy who i respected a lot and vice versa, hell this fuckin guy wrote a letter of recommendation for me for college) saw my piercings and treated me like shit. We had a huge debate in where he could't justify any of his points and finally ended in his wife taking him into the bedroom as things got pretty heated.

btw this may be a dumb question but whats a 'sakura branch' pics/descriptions?!?!?!


Posted by blazed it on Oct-18-2003 00:28:

i wish i had a better quality pic but man this tattoo rocks my world!

i wish i could've seen this in person.



a sakura btw is a japanese cherry blossom.


and as for the tattoos near the titties.... no thanks, they detract from the natural beauty of the titties.


Posted by Dmatrox on Oct-18-2003 00:35:

Re: Tattoo Discrimination?

quote:
Originally posted by anuneventrade
In my comp class we were told to write a commentary on the subject of our choice. I chose tattoo discrimination, since I face it on a day to day basis. I, myself, have two tattoos. If I enter a store and I am wearing clothes that cover my tattoos, I am percieved as a normal, nice, girl. I can return to that same store, with the same woman helping me, but instead, say, wearing a tank top that shows my tattoo on my back, as well as a trace of the one on my hip, and I get a whole nother story. I am one of "those kids that start trouble".
Not only are you judged differently, but you have to be careful in where you apply to get a job. Can you cover your tattoo? If not, say bye bye to that job. Tattoos are supposed to be a form of art and are instead, a form of discrimination. My own mother screamed at me "white trash" when she saw my first one. My roomates family member said to her "you better be careful with how many tattoos you get, you dont want to seem like white trash, i mean, youre not in a band or anything, so its unacceptable for you". wtf is that?
So anyway, my question to you guys- Any of you have tattoos? Do you get discriminated against? What are your personal views on tattoos?


Thats cuz ppl associated tatoos with criminals or gangs. Some gangs have their own tatoos, such as yakuza.


Posted by Cuervo79 on Oct-18-2003 03:11:

I have a tatoo, I did the design myself but in escense its a ying and yang, I wanted to put a libra symbol but it was too simple. and yes ppl look at me different if I'm showing my tatto (wich isn't often because its in the midle of my back between the "homoplates" SP?) I personaly don't care about the butterflies but it does matter if they did it so it could mean something not just like it or if its trendy. The tattoo near de breast no way looks totally bad...


Posted by Stanza on Oct-18-2003 07:27:

Re: Re: Tattoo Discrimination?

quote:
Originally posted by Dmatrox
Thats cuz ppl associated tatoos with criminals or gangs. Some gangs have their own tatoos, such as yakuza.


Yeah it's just these ones that I might be against else I don't really mind ppl with tatts.


Posted by guru on Oct-18-2003 15:28:

i have a very small yellow smiley tat on my arm i got when i was younger and v v drunk reminds me of good times clubbing


Posted by maria111 on Oct-18-2003 15:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Omegasox
Tattoo's being painful is a huge misconception. The feeling when you're getting sticked is hard to put into words. It's more of an annoyance than anything.

Sure, after a while if you're getting a lot of detail work done, it will get "sore" as the artists hand rests on a spot previously done. But the soreness is to be expected if you're stuck laying there for 2+ hours with a needle going in and out constantly. But it's not painful in the least imo.



yes i agree with you!as i sad the pain or maybe better the idea of the pain is just in our minds isnt?but i will rather prefer to go with someone with me just to support to me or something and just to talk to me so if he do thats i wont think that i am having a tatoo and i wont think the pain!!!but you were right that the pain depends from the person who do the tatto to you!!!and sorry for my english mistakes!


Posted by Boomer187 on Oct-18-2003 19:27:

back I think 200 er more years ago when the scientists of the day thought that the size of the cranium influences IQ they also thought that body type was a sign of the the person's personality.

SO they made many descriptions of smart people, retarded people, and criminals. They went said that all criminals also have tattoos, so automatically if you have one, you are a criminal. That is about where the bad stereotype started.

I think tattoos are very sweet, I was just at a place last night were I was the only one without a tattoo. I like looking at the art but I would never get one myself.


Posted by Dj Dizzy on Jan-07-2004 22:32:

i have a full sleeve of color on my left arm (almost complete, 32 hours on it so far) and a black & white one at the top of my right arm. i'm an office manager at a place thats very slack about what you wear but i know when i interview for my next job i'll have to be wearing long sleeves or else like you said, i can kiss that job goodbye. but i knew this before i got it so i'm ok with that.

the only people who really discriminate people who have ink are usually older, ignorant people. as far as where i work i'm not the only one that has them down to my forearm and i probably get more compliments than anything else really. but i definately see where you're going with this, i had to take out the piercing above my eye when i started sending out my resume. it's a shame that we live in such a judgemental society.


Posted by Dj Dizzy on Jan-07-2004 22:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Omegasox
Tattoo's being painful is a huge misconception. The feeling when you're getting sticked is hard to put into words. It's more of an annoyance than anything.

Sure, after a while if you're getting a lot of detail work done, it will get "sore" as the artists hand rests on a spot previously done. But the soreness is to be expected if you're stuck laying there for 2+ hours with a needle going in and out constantly. But it's not painful in the least imo.



that all depends on where you're getting it, some places feel almost just like a deep massage, some places you forget you're even getting tatted, then some places are rough as hell (the inside of you elbow where the crease is... rough stuff at least imo)


Posted by EssentialMix3r on Jan-08-2004 00:18:

Yeah, tattoo discriminations is def prevelant in todays society. Esp in the work place. My friend with very visible tats encounter this all the time. It def changed my mind about where I am gonna get mine. I am glad to know that there is a misconception about pain and the tattoo cause that was def holding me back from getting one.


Posted by kokanee on Jan-08-2004 00:46:

I've got two done - haven't really had any bad feelings towards them so far - more so curiosity, and the standard question: "Did it hurt?"
Planning on getting my left arm done too, it'll be more visible so who knows what reactions it'll bring up
Anyway, it's always interesting to see what kinda art people decide to get inked on them - the more original the better

kokanee


Posted by failsafe on Jan-08-2004 02:02:

it's funny that "little miss tattoo discrimination" goes on about tattoos she doesn't think people should have.

irony is sweet.


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