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Posted by xKaoSx on Oct-21-2003 14:29:

Buying Decks

Ok- I dont want to buy Tech's so whats the second best decks out there in the mid price range?


Posted by DJErnieP on Oct-21-2003 15:51:

if your not buying techs, and just want decks to start mixing with, go get the Gemini XL500II. get 2 of those and a descent mixer. Once you think your rdy, move onto technics.


Posted by xKaoSx on Oct-21-2003 16:13:

quote:
Originally posted by DJErnieP
if your not buying techs, and just want decks to start mixing with, go get the Gemini XL500II. get 2 of those and a descent mixer. Once you think your rdy, move onto technics.


Well- I dont want crap ones- I just dont wanna buy tech's yet-
I had some Numarks that were horrible.
are Gemini's above average?


Posted by punchline on Oct-21-2003 16:25:

The Gemini PT series is really good. It's direct drive and is basically a less expensive clone of the Technics 1200MK2. I know some people that have used these decks and they think they are great.


Posted by xKaoSx on Oct-21-2003 16:37:

I almost bought these

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...&category=14987

:P

Is two of the Gemini 500II's for $315 a good price?


Posted by DJErnieP on Oct-21-2003 17:27:

well they are about 160 a piece for brand new ones. I would suggest just goin to the shop and getting new ones, and not off ebay. I started out on 2 used geminis XL500II. They are perfect for beginers. Plus once your rdy to move on, its not like you threw a shitload of money away.


Posted by conk on Oct-21-2003 17:43:

I have two great condition XL-500 IIs to sell. PM me if you're interested.


Posted by T:REBEL on Oct-21-2003 17:58:

The Gemini XL-500ii series are okay. I ate these babies before I had my Techs. They're okay for mixing but they don't have a lot of torque.



The Stanton ST-100 is also a decent table. They cost more than the Gemini XLs. I'd go with these. You don't hear about 'em much.


Posted by xKaoSx on Oct-21-2003 18:01:

quote:
Originally posted by T:REBEL
The Gemini XL-500ii series are okay. I ate these babies before I had my Techs. They're okay for mixing but they don't have a lot of torque.



The Stanton ST-100 is also a decent table. They cost more than the Gemini XLs. I'd go with these. You don't hear about 'em much.



Well- I had some crap numark 1910's before- Definite torq problems with those.
You know if they would be better or worse than those?


Posted by T:REBEL on Oct-21-2003 18:24:

quote:
Originally posted by xKaoSx
Well- I had some crap numark 1910's before- Definite torq problems with those.
You know if they would be better or worse than those?


Go with Stanton. They used to be a part of Vestax.


Posted by specialK on Oct-21-2003 18:27:

Go for the Numark TT200's or the (supposedly coming out soon) TT500's, I have the 200s and love em. hit me back if you got any questions . . .

also check this thread:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=127372

these tables are going pretty cheap (brand new) on ebay, and I would definitely buy them over the XL500s. I actually have a friend with the XLs and i thought the build quality looked horrible.


Posted by T:REBEL on Oct-21-2003 18:33:

quote:
Originally posted by specialK
Go for the Numark TT200's or the (supposedly coming out soon) TT500's, I have the 200s and love em. hit me back if you got any questions . . .

also check this thread:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=127372

these tables are going pretty cheap (brand new) on ebay, and I would definitely buy them over the XL500s. I actually have a friend with the XLs and i thought the build quality looked horrible.


I don't think he wants anything to do with NUMARK anymore. That's why I didn't post any Numark tables up.


Posted by specialK on Oct-21-2003 22:44:

thats what im saying . . . seriously, if you just LOOK at the build quality of the Numark 200s over the Gemini's you'd buy them. I've seen both and the Geminis look pretty bad.


Posted by xKaoSx on Oct-21-2003 22:53:

Im not opposed to numarks- I just think the 1910's i had were going south- one had more torq than the other and it was hard to deal with- well- im lazy and didnt want to deal with it. lol

So I guess it's between 200's and 500II's
if thats the line right below 1200's


Posted by specialK on Oct-22-2003 02:00:

by the way your avatar is awesome.


Posted by DjOvertime on Oct-22-2003 02:10:

i didnt post before, but i decided to post my opinion...i was contemplating some lesser quality turntables and considered the Stantons and the Vestax (just to save some cash). Fact is, it came out to be anywhere from 300-450 to buy some turntables...i ended up buying a pair of used Techs for $600 including needles. For the extra 150 or 200 bux, get the quality decks. That way, 1. you wont ever have to buy or upgrade decks again...you are done with it...and 2. you wont ever have to worry about trying to sell your 2nd hand crap decks

just buck up and get the techs...you WILL thank yourself...i did


Posted by xKaoSx on Oct-22-2003 02:16:

Well- I have a 80% probability to hit a football parlay and win $1200 so if i win that- ill just get the tek's.


Posted by DjOvertime on Oct-22-2003 02:33:

i'd still sell off stuff just to get the techs if i was brokeass and had to do it again...i ALMOST bought new TTXs but ended up paying less for the used techs anyways...


Posted by Vlad on Oct-22-2003 04:50:

Stanton ST-100's is definitely the way to go, and they are on sale @ djmart.com for $249.99 each. They have great torque and Stanton itself is a very good company. I dont trust Gemini, I find Gemini to be a cheap reproduction of the techs (like the behringers vs. pioneer).


Posted by razzi on Oct-22-2003 11:51:

if not techs, go stanton


Posted by xKaoSx on Oct-22-2003 13:14:

Well- honestly- JUST because it's a reproduction of something else doesnt mean its cheap.
You may be biased and just dont like them as a company in general.
That doesnt mean the product isnt still above average.

It basically comes down to brand and recognition sometimes-

Although tek's may be top o the line etc- a "knock off" maybe just the same exact thing but maybe a tek will last 10 years and knock off maybe 5 good years.


Posted by xKaoSx on Oct-22-2003 18:50:

Well- I just stumbled upon some 1200 m3d's with carts and cases for $600.

Im thinkin that might be a pretty good deal.


Posted by T:REBEL on Oct-22-2003 19:04:

Like I said before, Stanton used to be a part of Vestax.

Go with the ST-100.

One more thing, do not invest in straight-arm technology.


Posted by VIO on Oct-22-2003 19:25:

quote:
Originally posted by xKaoSx
Although tek's may be top o the line etc- a "knock off" maybe just the same exact thing but maybe a tek will last 10 years and knock off maybe 5 good years.


10 years? i've played on 1200s that were almost 20 years old and they still played like they were brand new. of course they've been serviced and cleaned but all the components were original.


Posted by DeleriuM2K on Oct-24-2003 17:35:

skip the crappy decks and go strait to the techs
I was thinking about buying a pair of stantons or geminis, but I decided to go with the 1200s.... and Im glad I did

in the rare case that youll wanna get rid of them, the resale value is great, whereas the resale value for gems and stantons isnt

dish out the extra cash... If you dont have the money right now, save until you do


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