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Posted by trance-bro on Nov-07-2003 05:20:

johan gielen #24?!?!

guys come on gielen should at least be in the top 10 for the best dj's in the world..lemme kno what u think a dis


Posted by Omegasox on Nov-07-2003 05:21:

Here we go again.


Posted by malek on Nov-07-2003 05:23:

cheeezaaaaah


Posted by infinity HiGH on Nov-07-2003 05:36:

Re: johan gielen #24?!?!

quote:
Originally posted by trance-bro
guys come on gielen should at least be in the top 10 for the best dj's in the world..lemme kno what u think a dis


lmao...oh god thats funny....i mean....are u joking? please say u are...


Posted by trance-bro on Nov-07-2003 05:38:

no man im dead serious


Posted by infinity HiGH on Nov-07-2003 05:42:

quote:
Originally posted by trance-bro
no man im dead serious




well...i must say, that Gielen is far from being in the top ten best dj's in the world...but hey, if u like him then whatever; i used to listen to some of his stuff once too...a while ago...


Posted by buddy on Nov-07-2003 05:43:

i think gielens place was over rated if anything. i havent heard anything from him recently, but based solely off of his TE2003 set...

/me shudders


Posted by Trance(PL) on Nov-07-2003 05:53:

Why does everyone hate on Gielen, As a producer with Svenson he has come out with multiple anthems ( Twisted , We Know What You Did, Answere the Question ). He wouldn't be playing Trance Energy, Sensation and other huge event's if he was shitty ,also he has 3, 5 hour solo dates comming up and a Johan Gielen solo album comming too. 24 is a very fair ranking for Gielen.


Posted by Steven Hays on Nov-07-2003 05:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance(PL)
Why does everyone hate on Gielen, As a producer with Svenson he has come out with multiple anthems ( Twisted , We Know What You Did, Answere the Question ). He wouldn't be playing Trance Energy, Sensation and other huge event's if he was shitty ,also he has 3, 5 hour solo dates comming up and a Johan Gielen solo album comming too. 24 is a very fair ranking for Gielen.


Compared to other top jocks, his mixing is very shitty. And yes you can argue that Tiesto and Oakey both have rough mixing at times, but they both have a huge impression on the music. Tiesto's productions alone make up for his shotty mixing. And Oakey, well he's Oakey and one of the best ever.

Gielen's made some descent songs with Svenson, but its always with Svenson. Gielen doesn't have much credit with me as being a "great" dj.

peace.

Steve


Posted by arj1o1 on Nov-07-2003 07:16:

bah i think he's right, i saw johan live and going to see him live in 3 weeks 2x times... he's great
listen to lift off his weekly show, it's awesome

and i dont want to say it here but im doing it: sometimes its better then asot, but he hasnt got all the newest tracks


Posted by speedracer_mec on Nov-07-2003 07:43:

Re: johan gielen #24?!?!

quote:
Originally posted by trance-bro
guys come on gielen should at least be in the top 10 for the best dj's in the world..lemme kno what u think a dis

top 10 thousand


Posted by Zombikiller on Nov-07-2003 12:54:

fuck all you Gielen haters.
he plays good tunes and the crowds reaction says it all.fair enough,he aint the best at mixing,but who gives a fuck,he's good enough.

Being a good dj aint all about technical ability.

To me,his TE 2002 set will always remain in top 5 of all time.

And to top it off,hes a nice guy.

DONT HATE,CONGRATULATE...


Posted by DJ M.G on Nov-07-2003 13:09:

Re: johan gielen #24?!?!

quote:
Originally posted by trance-bro
guys come on gielen should at least be in the top 10 for the best dj's in the world..lemme kno what u think a dis




Posted by Disney on Nov-07-2003 14:43:

NOOOOOOO!!!

Ok, Gielen gets some crowd reactions, but a Gielen crowd isn't your average TA crowd.

Gielen is ok for party's for beginning trancers like TE...

And the Gielen solo's usually don't attrackt die hard TA's but more an MTV crowd.

But hey, if he's at #24 a lot of people must have voted for him...

I couldn't care less if he was left out of the top 100, but that's just me...


Posted by EverZ on Nov-07-2003 14:52:

Though his mixing quality is bad and his radio show is not as good as ASOT or World Tour, i can remember liking Twisted and Beauty of Silence, but that was years ago and he produced them with Svenson. I don't like him at all, and 24 is ok for him, maybe a bit too high.


Posted by Konijn on Nov-07-2003 16:10:

when i saw the subject heading I thought you were going to be expressing shock at how he even cracked the the top 25...


Posted by UWM on Nov-07-2003 16:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance(PL)
He wouldn't be playing Trance Energy, Sensation and other huge event's if he was shitty


*cough* DJ Jean fart scratch *cough*

I rest my case.


Posted by Sketch on Nov-07-2003 17:27:

Granted Gielen has had some baaad sets this year... some of his lift-off shows were terrible and the TE2003 set speaks for itself..

but this year aside Gielen is a great DJ, he gets crowds going and he plays killer tunes.
I have to agree with ZombiKiller that his set at TE2002 (feb) is one of the best sets i have heard, fantastic tunes, great mixing !
every Dj has bad sets Oakey, Tiesto, Armin they all have them but i dont see anyone dissing them like Gielen. At the moment his mixing is getting better and he's playing more good tunes but one thing i never understood is why he doesnt play like he does on Lift-Off at events personally his mixing is better in most cases.

IMO Gielen is one of the best and he deserved higher than #24

Sketch


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Nov-07-2003 18:01:

I actually like his skills as a DJ. I think he has some real talent. But his track selection ever since that legendary Trance Energy Early 2002 set has just gone completely downhill and has never come back up. And at the end of the day, track selection is obviously a major factor in DJing, and for 2003 he was lacking majorly in this department.. Therefore i'm suprised he got to even 24.. Then again, its pretty criminal that people like Judge Jules and Tall Paul who play far cheesier shit than Gielen, and DJing skills are way below par, both managed to finish above him


Posted by speedracer_mec on Nov-07-2003 18:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Sketch
Granted Gielen has had some baaad sets this year... some of his lift-off shows were terrible and the TE2003 set speaks for itself..

but this year aside Gielen is a great DJ, he gets crowds going and he plays killer tunes.
I have to agree with ZombiKiller that his set at TE2002 (feb) is one of the best sets i have heard, fantastic tunes, great mixing !
every Dj has bad sets Oakey, Tiesto, Armin they all have them but i dont see anyone dissing them like Gielen. At the moment his mixing is getting better and he's playing more good tunes but one thing i never understood is why he doesnt play like he does on Lift-Off at events personally his mixing is better in most cases.

IMO Gielen is one of the best and he deserved higher than #24

Sketch


i thought u were torontotrance for a sec


hahah ur avator


Posted by torontotrance on Nov-07-2003 18:07:

no no no mario...there is only one me

sob..nicked my avatar from the same place as i nicked mine...ffs....everyone is copying me these days.


Posted by Zombikiller on Nov-07-2003 18:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Sketch
Granted Gielen has had some baaad sets this year... some of his lift-off shows were terrible and the TE2003 set speaks for itself..

but this year aside Gielen is a great DJ, he gets crowds going and he plays killer tunes.
I have to agree with ZombiKiller that his set at TE2002 (feb) is one of the best sets i have heard, fantastic tunes, great mixing !
every Dj has bad sets Oakey, Tiesto, Armin they all have them but i dont see anyone dissing them like Gielen. At the moment his mixing is getting better and he's playing more good tunes but one thing i never understood is why he doesnt play like he does on Lift-Off at events personally his mixing is better in most cases.

IMO Gielen is one of the best and he deserved higher than #24

Sketch


AMEN brutha.some good words there.

it just seems to me,people on here (who shall remain nameless) seem to be jumping on the 'Gielen sucks' bandwagon too often,and who dont even have any credibility in their arguments.

fair enough,if u dont like a certain dj,thats fine,but if your a member just tagging along in a crowd,to get recognition on here with shit like 'Gielen is the worst dj ever,shouldnt be in the top 10,000 etc' then fuck right off.

IMO Gielen has one more thing over many djs in his live sets,energy.thats why i like him.

And if there is one thing you cant diss him about,its his productions.S & G are one of the scenes best remixing and production teams.thats the bottom line.twisted,the beauty of silence,we know wot u did,beachbreeze and of course,the unforgettable,unknown pleasure are all excellent tunes.

and with remixes of such tunes like,push - the legacy,spacedriver - unspoken,Minimalistix - Close Cover,DJ Tiesto - Lethal Industry etc etc you cant argue

At the end of the day,Gielen is a good DJ who doesnt deserve the criticism he gets.

From here on in,'The Johan Gielen Appreciation Alliance' has been born

Zombikiller Member #1


Posted by Trance(PL) on Nov-07-2003 18:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombikiller
AMEN brutha.some good words there.

it just seems to me,people on here (who shall remain nameless) seem to be jumping on the 'Gielen sucks' bandwagon too often,and who dont even have any credibility in their arguments.

fair enough,if u dont like a certain dj,thats fine,but if your a member just tagging along in a crowd,to get recognition on here with shit like 'Gielen is the worst dj ever,shouldnt be in the top 10,000 etc' then fuck right off.

IMO Gielen has one more thing over many djs in his live sets,energy.thats why i like him.

And if there is one thing you cant diss him about,its his productions.S & G are one of the scenes best remixing and production teams.thats the bottom line.twisted,the beauty of silence,we know wot u did,beachbreeze and of course,the unforgettable,unknown pleasure are all excellent tunes.

and with remixes of such tunes like,push - the legacy,spacedriver - unspoken,Minimalistix - Close Cover,DJ Tiesto - Lethal Industry etc etc you cant argue

At the end of the day,Gielen is a good DJ who doesnt deserve the criticism he gets.

From here on in,'The Johan Gielen Appreciation Alliance' has been born

Zombikiller Member #1


Agreed, count me in for 'The Johan Gielen Appreciation Alliance' who's designing the sig?


Posted by Az on Nov-07-2003 19:30:

he's fucking shit
plays shit tunes
recently he's been making shit tunes
he can't mix for shit

so why the fuck should he even be in hte top 100? let alone the top 10
I'm amazed he got to #24
but the guy that made this thread is blatantly a piss take, just cna't believe people have agreed with him


Posted by Ste on Nov-07-2003 19:51:

Re: johan gielen #24?!?!

quote:
Originally posted by trance-bro
guys come on gielen should at least be in the top 10 for the best dj's in the world..lemme kno what u think a dis



hahahahahahaha....


such a comedy post, brightened up my day...


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