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Posted by noikeee on Nov-30-2003 17:04:

Euro 2004 Draw

Group A: Portugal, Greece, Spain, Russia
Group B: France, England, Switzerland, Croatia
Group C: Sweden, Bulgaria, Denmark, Italy
Group D: Czech Republic, Latvia, Germany, Netherlands

Portugal vs. Spain !!!

France vs. England !

Netherlands vs. Germany vs. Czech Republic !

draw looks great, very balanced and loads of excellent matches for the first round

opinions?


Posted by bass drive on Nov-30-2003 17:20:

I think you guys got a fairly good group, but it doesn't matter coz

Czech will be the Euro 2004 champs


Posted by nettwerk on Nov-30-2003 19:02:

Uhm... I think PT will be eaten for breakfast in the first round...


Posted by Magnetonium on Nov-30-2003 20:17:

GO RUSSIA!


Posted by chesco on Nov-30-2003 20:44:

quite pleased about that italy draw, but thats bearing in mind they don't fuck it up like they have a habit of doing.


Posted by tall paul 2 on Nov-30-2003 23:57:

I can see England going through.. all we have to do is beat the Frenchys again, just like we did in the Rugby.. easy! The other 2 games I cant see being a problem.. England to win!!


Posted by Xavier on Dec-01-2003 12:19:

Re: Euro 2004 Draw

quote:
Originally posted by paranoik0
Portugal vs. Spain !!!

France vs. England !

Netherlands vs. Germany vs. Czech Republic !

draw looks great, very balanced and loads of excellent matches for the first round

opinions?


I'm not that surprised of the interesting matches in Euro 2004 Remember once its down to the last 16, there will always be extremely tasty fixtures that we'd look forward to, in the European Championship last 16's group stage, unlike the World Cup's last 32 where theres groups no one even cares about.


Posted by Romain on Dec-01-2003 21:32:

quote:
Originally posted by tall paul 2
I can see England going through.. all we have to do is beat the Frenchys again, just like we did in the Rugby.. easy! The other 2 games I cant see being a problem.. England to win!!


we want a revenge. Curious to know what this match will have to offer. I'm quite confident after the match against Germany.
The Netherlands are a top team too, hope we'll play against them.


Posted by zarathustra on Dec-01-2003 22:53:

Go Netherlands

Poor Latvia


Posted by kypez on Dec-02-2003 02:17:

quote:
Originally posted by zarathustra
Go Netherlands

Poor Latvia

Unfortunately they got drawn into the group of DEATH! just more of a challenge. I favor holland to win it all. I wouldnt mind Portugal pulling through too. Its so far away though. 6 or 7 months away.


Posted by tall paul 2 on Dec-02-2003 11:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Romain
we want a revenge. Curious to know what this match will have to offer. I'm quite confident after the match against Germany.
The Netherlands are a top team too, hope we'll play against them.


Yep, credit to France after that Germany match. I thought just like ever Henry was sensational.. saying that, the Germans havent been playing well for a while now. France England, should be one of the games of the tournament, a good start to it to say the least!!


Posted by mentalbarter on Dec-02-2003 19:09:

ENGLAND!!!!!!

and crystal palace


Posted by Kongo_kim on Dec-03-2003 12:24:

Re: Euro 2004 Draw

My predictions
Group A: Portugal, Greece
Group B: France, Croatia
Group C: Sweden, Denmark
Group D: Czech Republic, Germany


Greece will win over Spain just like in the Qualify
Croatia will beat England and make Sven G�ran Eriksson unemployed
Sweden , Denmark & Italy will end on the same points but on goal-difference Sweden & Denmark will go through
Czech Rep will Beat Holland just like they did in the qualify.
Germany are always good in competetions and will also beat Holland


Posted by chesco on Dec-03-2003 13:05:

theres not a chance in hell italy will finish 3rd in their weak group.

denmark are not that good as england showed in the 2002 world cup by thrashing them and sweden without king henrik are much less of a force to be reckoned with.

bulgaria for me carry more of a threat to italy than both denmark and sweden.


Posted by slinkyhead on Dec-04-2003 20:45:

Re: Re: Euro 2004 Draw

quote:
Originally posted by Kongo_kim
My predictions
Group A: Portugal, Greece
Group B: France, Croatia
Group C: Sweden, Denmark
Group D: Czech Republic, Germany


Greece will win over Spain just like in the Qualify
Croatia will beat England and make Sven G�ran Eriksson unemployed
Sweden , Denmark & Italy will end on the same points but on goal-difference Sweden & Denmark will go through
Czech Rep will Beat Holland just like they did in the qualify.
Germany are always good in competetions and will also beat Holland


you like your upsets don't you!!!!!

I think itl go to the form book pretty much

Group A: Spain, Portugal
Group B: France, England
Group C: Italy, Sweden
Group D: Czech Republic, Netherlands

England beat Spain on penalties i hope.

I reckon the finalists will come from Group A or B or outside bet Holland


Posted by smallSHEEP on Dec-08-2003 14:17:

England have a damn hard group i think.


Posted by sykadelik on Dec-11-2003 13:26:

quote:
Originally posted by smallSHEEP
England have a damn hard group i think.


No shit, I am very worried. If we draw against France and come 2nd in our group I will be over the moon


Posted by DC76 on Dec-11-2003 17:57:

C is the weakest group, and if Italy don't botch this one, they should have it made.

England should come out of Group B alongside France.

Group A and D are all to play for... Latvia and Greece are NOT to be underestimated here!

Don't get too cocky about the Czechs... they have a habit of choking in key situations, like they did against my least favourite team in Europe dating back to '98, Belgium

I'll call Germany and the Netherlands for Group D and Portugal and Spain in Group A, even though I'm not 100% sure that's how it'll turn out... well, to the victors go the spoils (Although I do hope the Dutch win )


Posted by vswede on Dec-15-2003 17:49:

my guess would be:
Group A: Portugal, Spain,
Group B: France, England,
Group C: Sweden, Italy
Group D: Germany, Netherlands

Spain will definently win over greece!
total winner im unsure i think most likely it will be either germany or spain.
GO SWEDEN!!!!!!!


Posted by evil_bastard on Jan-03-2004 01:26:

Thumbs up

I'm not that bothered by England's draw, if we can't qualify from that group we don't deserve to go all the way.

We can raise our game against the big sides and I honestly believe we'll turn the French over. Then complacency will set in, we'll draw with the Swiss and then beat the Croatians in a scrappy game to seal top spot. France will win both their other games and take second.


Posted by torontotrance on Jan-03-2004 02:12:

France and it's huge ego


Posted by Lytchix on Jan-03-2004 12:17:

quote:
Originally posted by tall paul 2
I can see England going through.. all we have to do is beat the Frenchys again, just like we did in the Rugby.. easy! The other 2 games I cant see being a problem.. England to win!!



Ahaha, it's not rugby here but football and France is far better than England at the moment.

Best strikers (Henry, Trezegoal...), best midfielders (Zidane, Vieira, Pires, Makelele...).
Our defence suxx a little and I hope that Desailly will have a little injury to make him out before the beginning of the competition.


Posted by Yohan on Jan-06-2004 05:25:

My predictions

Group A: Portugal, Greece, Spain, Russia
Hard to say... By looking at line ups and depth, Portugal and Spain should easily advance, but Spain has tendency to choke sometimes and Portugal was not good at all during World Cup.
Greek football is underrated IMO. Russians don't bring much.
Teams to advance: Portugal and Spain *bites tongue*

Group B: France, England, Switzerland, Croatia
France definitely needs some new blood. Perhaps Lauren Robert might make the team? The veterans are still good, but the team may need Zidane, Henry and Trezeguet to play really well to advance.
England also needs to play consistently to advance. They may just have enough talent to take it all.
Croatia's heydays as a football power is over. Swiss football will need to rely on a lot of luck and tenacity to pull off some big upsets.
Teams to advance: France and England

Group C: Sweden, Bulgaria, Denmark, Italy
Italy being Italy is loaded with talent. Inzaghi, Totti, Del Piero brings a lot to the front. However, I have doubts about Italy's back four as IMO they did not have good World Cup. Italy also needs to stop play boring football.
Sweden has some talent and may have enough to advance, if Denmark fairs poorly.
Danish football is very interesting to watch, with flair in the front and midfield. I also have doubts about Danish defenders as from the matches I saw, they weren't that strong.
Since the days of Stoichkov, Bulgarian football has not seen good days.
Teams to advance: Italy and Sweden (another tough call)

Group D: Czech Republic, Latvia, Germany, Netherlands
German machine football that led them to World Cup finals should be strong. As far as I'm concerned, Oliver Kahn is some sort of demigod.
Netherlands squad is loaded with talent. Davids, van der Vaart, Seedorf, Makaay to name a few. But van der Sar is only an average keeper. Also, the Dutch needs to work together as a team to get far.
Czech football is going on strong. Nedved is having a good season and should carry the team.
Latvia somehow made through the qualifiers by beating Turkey, but Latvia has no strong talent other than Mart Poom. However, they may just bring a strong fight to the tournament.
Teams to advance: Germany and Czech


Posted by evil_bastard on Jan-14-2004 06:08:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree

France definitely needs some new blood. Perhaps Lauren Robert might make the team?


Can't see it happening while Pires is there. Robert is a fantastic player on his day but Pires is top class and, above all, consistent. If Robert can maintain his best form consistently he will make the French squad but he is a bit unlucky with someone of Pires's quality in front of him. If Pires gets an injury though you never know.

France's defence is certainly ageing, and one young player to look out for is Newcastle's other Frenchman, left-back Olivier Bernard. IMO he is probably the most under-rated full back in the Premier League. He is still developing his game in terms of positioning but he is rock solid in the tackle, confident on the ball and excellent going forward. He and Robert work together well overlapping down the left flank, as was seen against Arsenal at Highbury this season when they claimed a goal each. With Lizarazu nearing retirement Bernard could be in the French squad within a couple of years IMO.


Posted by chesco on Jan-14-2004 10:11:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree

However, I have doubts about Italy's back four as IMO they did not have good World Cup.


italy didn't have a good world cup in general.

I think the daily record (my local tabloid) said in best in reports about the possible move of giovanni trappatoni going to tottenham

"....... could be a match made in hell. A team who are living on past glories and going nowhere fast, and a manager, who makes a dazzling array of talent look ordinary"

thats exactly my view. Altho i must say italy's defence is the strongest in the tournament. And with gattuso right on form and del piero coming back to his best it could an interesting tournament for the italians.


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