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Posted by Pete K on Jan-20-2004 17:02:

First pot overdose ever

man of 36 is believed to have become the first person in Britain to die directly from cannabis poisoning.

Lee Maisey smoked six cannabis cigarettes a day for 11 years, an inquest heard. His death, which was registered as having been caused by cannabis toxicity, led to new warnings about the drug, which is due to be reclassified this month as a less dangerous one.

"This type of death is extremely rare," Prof John Henry, a toxicologist at Imperial College, London, said after the inquest at Haverfordwest, west Wales.

"I have not seen anything like this before. It corrects the argument that cannabis cannot kill anybody."

The inquest heard that Mr Maisey had complained of a headache on Aug 22 last year. Next morning he was found dead at the house he shared with a friend, Jeffrey Saunders, in Summerhill, Pembrokeshire.

Michael Howells, the Pembrokeshire coroner, said Mr Maisey was free from disease and had not drunk alcohol for at least 48 hours. Post-mortem tests showed a high level of cannabinoids in his blood.

He recorded a verdict of death by misadventure because Mr Maisey had died while taking part in an illegal activity. The death led to a warning about the changing strength of cannabis, which is to be reduced to a Class C drug on Jan 29.

Dr Philip Guy, a lecturer in addictions at the University of Hull, said: "Cannabis is not the nice hippy drug it used to be. It has been experimented with to produce stronger varieties."

Dr Guy said that death was more likely if users ate the drug rather than smoked it. "I would not be surprised if in this case the deceased had ingested a fatal amount of cannabis."


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Posted by jp on Jan-20-2004 17:08:

To get cannabis poisoning you need to smoke at least 20.000 joints in 24 hours, instead of 10 years (what he did)

I think it's just the tobacco that killed him...


Posted by BTG on Jan-20-2004 17:41:

so if i smoke only 3 a day, im going to die in 22 years?


Posted by DJ-Fuq on Jan-20-2004 17:41:

lol


Posted by occrider on Jan-20-2004 17:47:

As much as I hate pot, I think a death rate of 1 out of a billion or so is marginally acceptable.


Posted by Misty Kitty on Jan-20-2004 17:53:

eeek!!!

I smoked 15-25 a day for 4-5 yrs (and a fair few more every weekend)

thats like taking 20 a day as my average and 4.5 yrs as the time scale i'm looking at 32,850 joints :O:O and this guy was on 24,090 joints

should i be dead?? suppose it depends on if his were pure or resin or with baccy etc

still he musta bin rolling phat ones


Posted by {b.s.e.} on Jan-20-2004 18:07:

Uhm. I find this hard to believe. Unlike opiates, barbituates or amphetamines, marijuana's toxicity remains null as the levels in your blood stream rise. If you smoked a quarter to yourself in an hour, you have a good chance of passing out with some very sore lungs.
How can THC be hailed as a true medicinal wonder and yet it can kill us if we smoke less than I do a day for 11 years?

There's no credibility here, the article doesn't even say how exactly he died. Lung Cancer?


Posted by DJ-Fuq on Jan-20-2004 18:09:

its bs


Posted by tranceDJ on Jan-20-2004 19:02:

Hm...I recall hearing that 4 times the amount of alcohol that it takes for you to get drunk will kill you...and it's 4,000 times the amount of pot you have to smoke to get high that would kill you.

Yeah...pot could maybe kill you if you smoke an ounce a day for 10 years or something but I can't see many people doing that...let alone even have the money for it.

Pot can be potentially bad for you if you're not wise about using it...but as for killing you, I find that hard to believe.


Posted by DigiNut on Jan-20-2004 19:06:

I hear there's this new drug called "H2O" that can kill you if you consume enough of it. What's worse is that it's undetectable in urine or blood tests.


Posted by Dervish on Jan-20-2004 19:09:

I know someone who's passed out on pot. He posts on here too. A one Mr Dukes. Nearly killed him too, or at least nearly took out an eye as he fell towards the edge of a table in a technical drawing class in high school


Posted by occrider on Jan-20-2004 19:16:

Why does the story have to be bs? If water or even sugar can kill you in enough quantitites I don't understand why it's so hard to grasp the concept that pot can kill you in extreme circumstances. There have been many published cases of cannabis poisoning and until now apparentely nobody has died. So the guy suffered a bout of cannabis poisoning and his body couldn't take it anymore ... who cares? The death rate is still negligeble compared to nearly anything else on the face of the planet, but why deny it can happen?

I mean really, I'm all for the legalization of most drugs, and especially pot, but many of its supporters make it out to be the safest drug/element since the dawn of man.


Posted by Lost Inhibition on Jan-20-2004 21:01:

blargh that bastard ruined it for everyone

lol with all seriousness however, his death doesnt seem that farfetched, as anyone can easily overdose on absolutely any substance. what i find odd about the article is that they dont tell how much THC was found in his system. if the man was smoking alot, one after the other, he could have just died from smoke inhalation rather than cabinnoid poisoning. since we dont know exactly what happened (that seems to be the case more and more often with just about everything nowadays ) i cant see how im or anyone else for that matter is supposed to just accept this face value


Posted by Fast Turtle on Jan-20-2004 22:36:

That seems off. All they showed is that the man died with a high level of cannabis in his blood; nothing in the article says anything about how the level of THC D-9 is his blood lead to his death.

I doubt the ingestion route would have cause the death either because it's generally very safe.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Jan-20-2004 22:51:

I onced passed out from canabis too when i was younger..but it was a mixture of heat stroke and just being stoned


Posted by Floorfiller on Jan-20-2004 22:57:

wow 20 joints a day?? some of you people have problems...


Posted by Boomer187 on Jan-20-2004 23:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
wow 20 joints a day?? some of you people have problems...


thats what I am screaming...judas, I can't imagine myself finding time to smoke 20 joints a day for years.


Posted by tranceDJ on Jan-21-2004 01:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
thats what I am screaming...judas, I can't imagine myself finding time to smoke 20 joints a day for years.


Well I'm guessing ppl who do this start off with just a few a day and as all drugs work, they need more and more to get high and wanting to get high so bad...they'll smoke whatever the amount necessary.

Lots of heroin addicts say they're deathly scared of needles too but doesn't matter if you're dependent/addicted to something. Good thing about pot is that its not very habit forming...you have to smoke often before you can develop a problem.


Posted by Shook1 on Jan-21-2004 01:23:

Its not how much u smoke over time (months, years, etc.). Its mainly how much weed is taken in a single dosage. It doesnt matter how much u've done in the past....... let cancer take care of that.

Like the article said..... he must have ate a hella amount of brownies or something. Thats the only way u'd be able to get that much THC in your system at one given time.


Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on Jan-21-2004 11:21:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Why does the story have to be bs? If water or even sugar can kill you in enough quantitites I don't understand why it's so hard to grasp the concept that pot can kill you in extreme circumstances. There have been many published cases of cannabis poisoning and until now apparentely nobody has died. So the guy suffered a bout of cannabis poisoning and his body couldn't take it anymore ... who cares? The death rate is still negligeble compared to nearly anything else on the face of the planet, but why deny it can happen?

I mean really, I'm all for the legalization of most drugs, and especially pot, but many of its supporters make it out to be the safest drug/element since the dawn of man.


I completely agree with you here, Cheney. Cannabis is certainly not a killer substance, but taking anything in excessive amounts is harmful and can potentially lead to death.


Posted by tu_face on Jan-21-2004 11:54:

i think i should be dead too.. not so much for my in-week consumption (although that has dropped recently) but from my weekend frolics. after ive been out, we often go back to somones house, and literally smoke ourselves into the floor, often coming in from the club at 7am and smoking until past 8pm on numerous occasions, and i mean spliff after spliff after spliff, as soon as one is dead we get started on constructing another one.

im not dead, yay!


Posted by Ste on Jan-21-2004 11:58:

yeh i read about that over sum1's shoulder on the train the other day, interesting, its a bit like if you smoke normal cigarettes that much you will be risking a bit of death.


b-s-e: they died from an overodse of the chemicals in cannabis, if they had died from lung cancer or another disease caused by smoking it wouldnt be in the paper.


Posted by Ste on Jan-21-2004 12:00:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Why does the story have to be bs? If water or even sugar can kill you in enough quantitites I don't understand why it's so hard to grasp the concept that pot can kill you in extreme circumstances. There have been many published cases of cannabis poisoning and until now apparentely nobody has died. So the guy suffered a bout of cannabis poisoning and his body couldn't take it anymore ... who cares? The death rate is still negligeble compared to nearly anything else on the face of the planet, but why deny it can happen?

I mean really, I'm all for the legalization of most drugs, and especially pot, but many of its supporters make it out to be the safest drug/element since the dawn of man.


aye, the story is exactly causing a scare or anything like leah betts and pills, its just wierd that sum1 has actually died from the stuff...


Posted by DJ-Fuq on Jan-21-2004 12:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Ste
aye, the story is exactly causing a scare or anything like leah betts and pills, its just wierd that sum1 has actually died from the stuff...

no they havnt


Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on Jan-21-2004 12:39:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Fuq
no they havnt


Oh, and you were there so you know?


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