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getting that full sound RE: Tiesto - Traffic
could you producers out there help a new boy, please
i am new to production and have just started to use REASON, i have found my way round to sequencer and got a few loops going with the REDRUM.
i've been using Tiesto's Traffic as a template to help me.
the first 16 (i think) bars sound pretty much similar to mine (thin), but hve that BANG! its a total different tune.
how the hell do you make your KICK sound like this??
does he put a second kick over the top or is it soething to do with the BASSLINE that comes in.
please help, because when i can't get the basic kick and bass sounding right it deters me from going any further!!
a .rns file would be nice to help me allong.
cheers in advance for any advice.
not sure, but to me it sounds like he has a reversed kick going with the kick
Well at the begining is that really muddy kick with hardly any low end right?
Then a deeper kick comes in later whilst the other one is still there, so yeah it is a combo of two kicks. I guess with some compression too.
Hey Guys am I anumed to what a punchy kick sounds like because I make my own kicks now and this kick in traffic aint what id call 'Full'
Taking traffic as an example song to start with is bad news 
There is a reversed kick in play there btw.
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| Originally posted by BelgianGuru Taking traffic as an example song to start with is bad news ![]() |
can anyone give me a good place to start??
all the kicks i find on the net don't have the same PUNCH as the ones in released produtions.
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| Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I don't think anyone asked for opinions on the tune. |
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| Originally posted by urmyuk1 can anyone give me a good place to start?? all the kicks i find on the net don't have the same PUNCH as the ones in released produtions. |
At least that's how a newbie like me does it.
Just take a normal 909 kick put a compressor between redrum kick channel and mixer, also a distortion and a eq to rol off low end enable the eq on the mixer and cut the Hi almost al the way down. Now play with the compressor to get a sound you like.
Along with layering of kicks, alot of these tracks are professionally mixed and mastered using expensive current and vintage outboard processors. You're not going to duplicate a sound like that from Reason coming straight off a computer.
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| Originally posted by DinaireFan1 Along with layering of kicks, alot of these tracks are professionally mixed and mastered using expensive current and vintage outboard processors. You're not going to duplicate a sound like that from Reason coming straight off a computer. |
Yeah thats in-denial bollocks, something we may have all used to pursade ourselfs its not our fault. But you can get things sounding EXTREMELY close to proffesional in any sequencer used around here. I bet The entire Traffic could have been made in fruityloops.
thanks for all your coments, but it was a couple of examples i was after.
I wouldn't get so hung up on exactly duplicating the kick that you lose the overall forest for the trees. I would concentrate on all of the parts, and how they flow from section to section and over the course of the whole song (or mix).
Totally offtopic but last night I heard IAN VAN DAHL "Reason" and the main synth sounds 98% like TRAFFIC synth 
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| Originally posted by Sebraaa12 Totally offtopic but last night I heard IAN VAN DAHL "Reason" and the main synth sounds 98% like TRAFFIC synth ![]() |
nice choice then
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| Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Reason also uses a drumloop from Techno eJay... |
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| Originally posted by The Designer Do you have any proof of that?? |
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| Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Reason also uses a drumloop from Techno eJay... |
A HELL NO they didn't use a loop from techno ejay....I don't think that Christophe and Erik would do that...they have way too much hardware and way too much talent to do that. When they go for their kicks they use an Emu and start from there...I've spoken to them a few times and doesnt seem like they would use any type of pre-maufactured loop.
Limit Out!
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| Originally posted by Limit A HELL NO they didn't use a loop from techno ejay....I don't think that Christophe and Erik would do that...they have way too much hardware and way too much talent to do that. When they go for their kicks they use an Emu and start from there...I've spoken to them a few times and doesnt seem like they would use any type of pre-maufactured loop. Limit Out! |
Just because some artist has a lot of hardware or studio resources doesn't mean that they don't use samples or loops.
ok number one i've talked to both producers of Ian Van Dhal and know how they work...they are very anal about using pre made loops and stuff. Number two Ian Van Dahl was out before trechno ejay they were just under different alias's...honestly i really don't care and don't know why i'm posting to this but anyway these are my thoughts...think whatever you want cause i am content.
Limit Out!
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| Originally posted by Limit ok number one i've talked to both producers of Ian Van Dhal and know how they work...they are very anal about using pre made loops and stuff. Number two Ian Van Dahl was out before trechno ejay they were just under different alias's...honestly i really don't care and don't know why i'm posting to this but anyway these are my thoughts...think whatever you want cause i am content. Limit Out! |
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