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So, evolution or creationism - the poll

Well, since Nelly thinks that the majority of readers here don't believe in evolution, I've decided to make a poll. Please, vote only once. Kthxbye.

Hey, he was kind enough to add my Cookie Monster deity!

Thank you so much! Well, let's see what the pollsters decide.....

Gawd, I could never seem to vote on anything these days, theres always a conflict

However I tend to agree with "big bang/inflation->stars->early earth->chemical reactions spring life->it starts to evolve" but where did matter come from in the first place

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Originally posted by rizen Gawd, I could never seem to vote on anything these days, theres always a conflict However I tend to agree with "big bang/inflation->stars->early earth->chemical reactions spring life->it starts to evolve" but where did matter come from in the first place

Vacuum quantum fluctuations. Maybe. It's still debatable area.

But may I add it's nice that the cookie monster is beating bible teachings. Where are you Nessa, we need your vote

+1 for god... omg who did it without saying anything?!

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Originally posted by St_Andrew +1 for god... omg who did it without saying anything?!

Someone who's either joking or doesn't want to get flamed...or maybe Nellie is opening up multiple TA accounts now, hehe.

But please, people I call upon your christian values and ask you to vote for what you really believe in and to vote only once.

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Originally posted by St_Andrew +1 for god... omg who did it without saying anything?!

You shouldn't say the word GOD, but rather make a reference to this great power or it makes the Jews cry

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Someone who's either joking or doesn't want to get flamed...

hehehehe, this will probably become "This website is so ass-backwards it's funny Part II"

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Originally posted by rizen You shouldn't say the word GOD, but rather make a reference to this great power or it makes the Jews cry

ooohm, sorry

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Originally posted by St_Andrew hehehehe, this will probably become "This website is so ass-backwards it's funny Part II"

Heh, I completely forgot the discussion was about a web site. I just joined in when the argument started, I've never read the site

EDIT: Well, I've checked it out now and I must say I love those "Jesus is lord" letters spinning around the cursor.

I believe a hybrid of theories, that god did crete everything but he did it through science just like he works through everything else

I'm not deeply religious, and I work in a science field (biology/medicine), but I think I will always have a place for "God" in the creation of things as well as science. To me quantuum fluctuations are not a sufficient explanation of how things came into existance (what began these quantuum fluctuations?). I'm a temporal being, so to me there needs to be a "start." You can argue that time is just a function of tachyons or merely a dimensional measurement, and the universe has in fact been around forever, but again, I have difficulties with that. It seems to me just as much a cop-out as saying God made everything in a week. My personal belief is that he ("it") got things started, and let it go from there. Maybe an occassional nudge was given here and there, but maybe not. I could go on and on about this, but I'll leave it at that for now.

and after thousands of years of evolution:



i voted for the cookie monster diety

C is for cookie,
That's good enough for me.

C is for cookie,
That's good enought for me.

C is for cookie,
That's good enough for me.

OH!
Cookie, cookie, cookie starts with C.

MrS

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Originally posted by NeoPhono I'm not deeply religious, and I work in a science field (biology/medicine), but I think I will always have a place for "God" in the creation of things as well as science. To me quantuum fluctuations are not a sufficient explanation of how things came into existance (what began these quantuum fluctuations?). I'm a temporal being, so to me there needs to be a "start." You can argue that time is just a function of tachyons or merely a dimensional measurement, and the universe has in fact been around forever, but again, I have difficulties with that. It seems to me just as much a cop-out as saying God made everything in a week. My personal belief is that he ("it") got things started, and let it go from there. Maybe an occassional nudge was given here and there, but maybe not. I could go on and on about this, but I'll leave it at that for now.

sweet, yet one more deist... here i am never finding another one in real life but yet i find two on the same day here in th pol forum

DrUg_Tit0,I can't vote because none of the answers fit my opinion. Evolution is real,I just don't agree with macro.
(It's NellIE There is a difference,and I never said the majority doesn't believe in Evolution. Atleast I don't recall it. If I did,point it out to me.)

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Originally posted by rizen You shouldn't say the word GOD, but rather make a reference to this great power or it makes the Jews cry

Now that's not very fair. Jews are people just like the rest of us, so you need to be more respectful. I'm sure you don't like it if people pick on you because you're from California.

I'm just waiting on the, If you press number 1 or 3 you are going to hell! comment. I wonder who that would be from...

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Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487 Now that's not very fair. Jews are people just like the rest of us, so you need to be more respectful. I'm sure you don't like it if people pick on you because you're from California.

No,thats not true,I dont believe that,thats a lie. My father is a Jewologist,he knows a lot about jews,i read a book that said he was right.

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Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487 DrUg_Tit0,I can't vote because none of the answers fit my opinion. Evolution is real,I just don't agree with macro. (It's NellIE There is a difference,and I never said the majority doesn't believe in Evolution. Atleast I don't recall it. If I did,point it out to me.)

look you cannot disagree with tv and tv gave us




SURE you might believe in that jetsons bullshit, but I don't see anyone else, do you

It never fails to amaze me how many creationists say they reject the theory of evolution due to "lack of proof" - i.e. incomplete fossil record and so on. I'm not going to start on why this perspective is wrong (as it's already been done to death) but all I ask is that you take that that scepticism - that doubt - you so rigorously apply to the theory of evolution, and then apply it to your own beliefs. Apply it to your God.

You can't see him, you can't feel him, he does not interfere at all in every day life.... in fact, it's farily hard to think of anything he does do these days, isn't it? Now, apparently, the fact that paleantologists haven't found every single species of animal that ever existed is proof the evolution cannot have happened, but God - entirely intangible and unverifiable - must exist?
Think about it. If you deny the theory of evolution - which has stood up to the scrutiny of rigorous scientific examination for over 150 years (meaning it has fared better than most other scientific theories) then it would be logically inconsitent of you to continue with your belief in God.
Lots of (if incomplete) proof in favour of evolution, hardly anything that supports the existence of God, much less the theory of creationism.

If religion wishes to make ontological claims - about things that do and don't exist, about things that have and haven't happened - then it desverves to be held up to genuine logical and empirical tests and scrutinised thoroughly. If you wish to hold evolution to such a harsh form of scepticism, then the least you can do, if you wish to be acting in "good-faith", is to approach your own deep-rooted beliefs with the same logic.

Do you actually want to know, or are you happy believing?

No narcism,you dont understand,my dad is a jewologist who studies the jews, therefore evolution is false.

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Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487 DrUg_Tit0,I can't vote because none of the answers fit my opinion. Evolution is real,I just don't agree with macro. (It's NellIE There is a difference,and I never said the majority doesn't believe in Evolution. Atleast I don't recall it. If I did,point it out to me.)

Well, I'm sorry if I hadn't made that more clear, but I was reffering to "macro"-evolution, since "micro"-evolution is obviously true, as it happens every day. So if it suits you, replace the word evolution with "macro"-evolution. There, happy?

Sorry about your name, although I don't see why people have to be so nitpicking about their nicks...

Now about the majority, yes, you're right. It was whether the majority thinks you made an immature and elementary breakdown of terms. I'll create a new poll on this one if it makes you happy

You know I've told myself about the Great Cookie Monster so many times I think I'm actually starting to believe he's real!

Guesss repetition works after all.......

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Originally posted by narcism It never fails to amaze me how many creationists say they reject the theory of evolution due to "lack of proof" - i.e. incomplete fossil record and so on. I'm not going to start on why this perspective is wrong (as it's already been done to death) but all I ask is that you take that that scepticism - that doubt - you so rigorously apply to the theory of evolution, and then apply it to your own beliefs. Apply it to your God. You can't see him, you can't feel him, he does not interfere at all in every day life.... in fact, it's farily hard to think of anything he does do these days, isn't it? Now, apparently, the fact that paleantologists haven't found every single species of animal that ever existed is proof the evolution cannot have happened, but God - entirely intangible and unverifiable - must exist? Think about it. If you deny the theory of evolution - which has stood up to the scrutiny of rigorous scientific examination for over 150 years (meaning it has fared better than most other scientific theories) then it would be logically inconsitent of you to continue with your belief in God. Lots of (if incomplete) proof in favour of evolution, hardly anything that supports the existence of God, much less the theory of creationism. If religion wishes to make ontological claims - about things that do and don't exist, about things that have and haven't happened - then it desverves to be held up to genuine logical and empirical tests and scrutinised thoroughly. If you wish to hold evolution to such a harsh form of scepticism, then the least you can do, if you wish to be acting in "good-faith", is to approach your own deep-rooted beliefs with the same logic. Do you actually want to know, or are you happy believing?

who said u cant feel the presence of god...if u r a true religious person and a believer then u will..that is the strongest reason for believeing in god..u feel him in u and all around u..not because the world makes sense..if it is to the latter then ur faith isnt strong enough..i discussed all my views of the topic in the chillout room..too tired to go through it again..have a look there..http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=159667

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