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Posted by toka on Feb-18-2004 22:47:

Arrow Which producer has the best sounding kick drum?

Hey!

I wonder which producers u think has the best sounding kick drums? My favorite are for sure the Above & Beyond kicks! Punchy and powerful!

//toomas / toka


Posted by moog_baby on Feb-18-2004 22:54:

the pocket damage kick..


Posted by trancenrg69 on Feb-18-2004 23:20:

I don't know about kick, but the most professional sound goes to Pulser (Andy Persing) and I know how he gets that crisp killer sound and Im gonna be buy that device very shortly


Posted by moog_baby on Feb-18-2004 23:21:

tell other people about the device please..though Im sure he doesnt produce good tunes cos he has it..


Posted by Sean Walsh on Feb-18-2004 23:27:

Yep, the Kick in My Religion is absolutely killer. What does he use for it?


Posted by Salem on Feb-18-2004 23:30:

Monkey Dancer 2 heh

best kick = Mr. Sam i just realized this ****** has got some serious talent. his Vision mix of Narjana is fuckin owning me right now


Posted by trancenrg69 on Feb-19-2004 03:55:

Ok Guys, I'll tell you cause I'm not greedy type. But in the future, little advice, don't wait for others to give you the answers, go out and ask. Most of the time producers will be very helpful, others time they aren't, but a few tips from pro's can really improve your productions. As for Pulser's sound, here is the email he sent me:

Trancenrg69:"Hey Andy, big fan of your work. I'm an amateur trance producer about to build a new studio. I heard alot of people talk about the Universal Audio UAD-1 Card. But I'm not sure it's good for trance music. I notice you have it in your studio list. Do you use this card alot, is it worth buying ? any reply would be much appreciated. cheers"

Pulser: "All I can say about the UAD-1 is that it�s what makes my tracks sound like they do. I use it all the time especially the Cambridge EQ, The Pultec EQ, The LA2a & 1176� in fact I use just about every plug-in it has. The Preflex plugin is great for crunching up claps. I would highly recommend it."



Posted by Seric on Feb-19-2004 05:13:

quote:
Originally posted by trancenrg69
Ok Guys, I'll tell you cause I'm not greedy type. But in the future, little advice, don't wait for others to give you the answers, go out and ask. Most of the time producers will be very helpful, others time they aren't, but a few tips from pro's can really improve your productions.


I don't think anyone waited around for advice. they "went out" and asked you, right? You're a producer, no? Idunno, don't mind me. Just a curious observation.


Posted by sot on Feb-19-2004 06:15:

my fav kick in a trance track is john askew's kick in his remix of waterplanet - introspection. gotta love that kick


Posted by Sebraa on Feb-19-2004 07:46:

Pulser - best kick
System F - best clap


Posted by Mossy on Feb-19-2004 09:16:

i really like the kick on most of Paul Glazby's tune, slightly thin but really agressive and sound like they are sucking in rather than pulsing out. Its a unique sound.


Posted by Massive84 on Feb-19-2004 11:41:

i like Filo and Peri's kick in elevation


Posted by Design on Feb-19-2004 14:32:

This is one of the reviews I found about the UAD-1 card
"sorry, this card is garbage..."
Althought the plugins sound very good, I own a real 1178 and LA-2 and though the plugins don't sound anywhere near as good as the real deal, they sound as good as any plugin can, you are very limited to the amount of them you can use a the same time AND it's architecture requires that you create extra aux and bus configurations to fix it's hardware issues (explained below) so that you don't really buy back much processing power from your CPU anyway (certainly not $600 worth of it!). the card's latency is incredibly problematic and frustrating and many extra steps are requried to compensate for it (and that only sort of fixes it), so a lot of time is wasted configuring your system to grudgingly use the UAD plugins where as a native plugin would be up and running perfectly, instantly... Go with the Waves plugins instead, they rock, there are NO issues with them, and they're not that much more expensive! If you.re having plugin problems because your CPU is old and tired or you don't have enough RAM, this card is not the answer... the answer is: it's time to upgrade your system!


Posted by Sexomatic on Feb-19-2004 15:05:

ace da brain for his insane quality --for example george acosta - emotions (dj marc la cruz mix) pure evil


Posted by Etherium on Feb-19-2004 18:46:

Not trying to turn this into a UAD-1 thread, but I've heard a lot of negatives about it's compatibility like mentioned above. The Cambridge EQ and Pultec are by all accounts wonderful, but at what cost. I would love to get some definitive answers about the UAD-1. If anyone here has it or knows a lot about it, start another thread about it.

And, I like A&B kicks.


Posted by trancenrg69 on Feb-19-2004 19:52:

I pity those who ever took advice from Design. First of all, that review should not be even called a review. You got that off zsounds.com from some nobody. Funny how you failed to mention the amazing reviews from the top audio magazines in the world.

http://www.mackie.com/pdf/press/uad...ns_in_remix.pdf

http://www.mackie.com/pdf/press/uad...futuremusic.pdf

http://www.mackie.com/pdf/press/uad...e_recording.pdf

http://www.mackie.com/pdf/press/uad-1_in_keyboard.pdf

http://www.mackie.com/pdf/press/uad-1_in_recording.pdf

http://www.mackie.com/pdf/press/uad1inpsn.pdf

http://www.mackie.com/products/revi...d1_remix_02.pdf

Do some real research, not zsounds reviews. Have the ratings on there are laughable. They give Mackie 624's a lower rating than behringer truths and you expect me to take that review seriously.

Pulser is a very respected trance producer and the quality of his tracks are stellar. The Thrillseekers and Dreas also use it.


http://www.kvr-vst.com/forum/viewto...p=379869#379869

here is a post on powercore and uad-1 cards. It's are I ever heard someone badmouth this card.


Posted by lexiconavenue on Feb-19-2004 20:28:

id say right now that luke chables kicks are very pleasing to listen to. in each of his originals or remixes, the kicks keep the roundness and slight pop in the high end. they dont wear on the ears and keep the full dynamic low end sound that makes it boomy and cut through the mix.


Posted by Etherium on Feb-19-2004 20:32:

I have heard nothing but good about the Pultec EQ. I also head that the 1176 sounds quite nice. Thanks for the links TE.


Posted by Klangzentrum on Feb-19-2004 20:51:

i think pvd�s kickdrum is unique!

but my favouruit kicks are made by paavo, tony and jono! may it be a&b or oceanlab or...


Posted by trancenrg69 on Feb-19-2004 20:54:

No Problem Etherium.


Posted by Design on Feb-19-2004 21:34:

trancenrg69
I said that was a quoted review if you read carefully.
It seems to me you're feeling a little vulnerable today, 'cause some of the UAD-1 weaknesses were exposed. But that's not my problem, I was just trying to help. If you want to go out and blow $600... go ahead.


Posted by trancenrg69 on Feb-19-2004 22:56:

Vunerable?, no I think it's lack of education on your part.Who the hell are you coming on the thread with your 'copy & paste" review. Why don't u do a little researh and maybe actually go out and listen to it before you post irrelevant reviews. Why didn't you quote from a respected sound engineer or musician rather than some nobody on zsounds. Buying a uad-1 card isn't blowing it's being smart. Go on KVR and ask what people think of the UAD-1, no hardware or software is perfect. that's why we have updates and upgrades Einstein. Go listen to a Pulser track then come talk to me about bad reviews. I've heard guys bitch that Mackie hr824's suck, I've heard reviews where guys said Genelecs were crap and that Behringers were better. You think I'm gonna base my decision on a purchase based on what some dude wrote on some forum. I did my research, I've heard it, and the jury is in, Uad-1 rules, and u suck. Now get lost!


Posted by trancenrg69 on Feb-19-2004 23:07:

I emailed The Thillseekers http://www.thethrillseekers.co.uk/

One of the best Trance producers of all time. Take a look at the Discography. These guys are legends. I emailed them.

Message: Hey guys great work on Santa Cruz. I wonder if I can ask you a quick question, I noticed you have a UAD-1 card in your studio list. Do you use this card in your tracks. Is it worth getting? Any feedbackwould be appreciated. cheers


Reply: I max out the UAD on every mix....love it

Enough said!


Posted by DRM on Feb-19-2004 23:08:

i love l vee's kick under the airwave alias. proper powerful and punchy


Posted by Damie Mckeown on Feb-19-2004 23:42:

there is alot of good kicks out there, if they were all the same it would suck too. Certian kicks fit tracks better than others.
Pointless thread really.


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