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Posted by igottaknow on Feb-26-2004 16:59:

Howard Stern off the air?

If there is one thing that Americans can do better than anyone else is...OVER REACT! In response to the Jackson breast bearing stunt the bush administration is now on a witch hunt to silence controversal media figures. First stop, Howard Stern. Clear Channel who has nearly a monopoly in radio, wants to play ball with the government and cancel Stern so it will continue to get favorable consideration from government regulators as it seeks expand its radio empire. Feel like the red scare of the 50's all over again, god i hate bush.


Posted by Ste on Feb-26-2004 17:09:

Re: Howard Stern off the air?

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
bush administration


*cough*totalitarian regime*cough*


Posted by SuperFarStucker on Feb-26-2004 17:27:

source? I'm throwing the flag otherwise.


Posted by Slylee on Feb-26-2004 17:33:

I strongly disagree. I think that Americans and just society in general (in other countries as well) have just gone to shit. It�s like anything goes these days and no one gives a crap. I�m sorry, but if I had a 10 year old son who was watching the Superbowl and saw Justin Timberlake rip off Janet�s top to expose her tit w/ a pastey on her nipple, I�d be pissed. And all the attention whoring stars like Madonna, Christina and Britney kissing on stage on a show that young girls watch is disgraceful too. Then they think it�s cool, and the next thing you know, your daughter is on the cover of �Girls Gone Wild�. Trust me, your views will change as an adult with kids. The entertainment world should be a bit more considerate and discrete. And as far as Howard Stern goes, yea, his show is entertaining SOMEtimes...but he is the epitome of human scum. He exploits mentally handicapped people and has these stupid whores on his shows to talk about masterbation and sex and every single taboo topic you can think of. No body has any morals anymore including Howard Stern. He�s a stupid, ugly, scrawny fcuking tool who got lucky in showbiz.

my 2 cents


Posted by igottaknow on Feb-26-2004 18:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
I strongly disagree. I think that Americans and just society in general (in other countries as well) have just gone to shit. It�s like anything goes these days and no one gives a crap. I�m sorry, but if I had a 10 year old son who was watching the Superbowl...

I don't agree with a lot of stuff Howard does ie making fun of handicap and other disadvantaged ppl. I only occasionally tune in for Robin doing the news, but I think he is funny and part of his stick is pushing the boundaries. So what do I do when he offends me? ... I reach for the dial and change the station! It's called the freedom of choice that's what makes this country great. As for children, sure his radio show isnt appropriate for them, but its on early in the morning when kids are either sleeping or at school. As for the jackson, while i agree it was a stupid vulgar plublicity stunt, it was on for all of 1 second and I've seen far worse stuff on MTV which is marketed and viewed by young kids.


Posted by Slylee on Feb-26-2004 18:32:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
So what do I do when he offends me? ... I reach for the dial and change the station! It's called the freedom of choice that's what makes this country great.


No, that�s what makes this society crap...people are pushing the limits to our bill of rights. I don�t think freedom of the press was meant so that porno can be advertised where we please...or advertised in general!


Posted by Eddie N MIAMI on Feb-26-2004 19:09:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
I don't agree with a lot of stuff Howard does ie making fun of handicap and other disadvantaged ppl. I only occasionally tune in for Robin doing the news, but I think he is funny and part of his stick is pushing the boundaries. So what do I do when he offends me? ... I reach for the dial and change the station! It's called the freedom of choice that's what makes this country great. As for children, sure his radio show isnt appropriate for them, but its on early in the morning when kids are either sleeping or at school. As for the jackson, while i agree it was a stupid vulgar plublicity stunt, it was on for all of 1 second and I've seen far worse stuff on MTV which is marketed and viewed by young kids.


I completely agree with you, if you don't like what your hearing there a shit load of other stations to put.I usually wake up when Robin is doing the news and I was pissed when I heard what happened to Howard.It bothers me that my country gets pissed about nudity and not all the violence that is shown. Howard Stern has always backed Bush so I dont see why their getting on howard for. Well Clear Channel Communications was the one who decided to get howard out But yea the administration did enforce the guidelines regarding sex.Something like shows with a strong sexual scenes canot be seen or heard from 6am to 10pm.Thats bullshit.In regards to what started this all the Janet Jackson "nipplegate",there were gay dancers dressed in some sort of bondage wear dancing to bad music in her performance,not to mention all the viagra commercials and the fact that people are watching one of the most violent sports in the world, and the country is offended by janets 2 second nipple peak......O well what can I do I still Love this country,but sometimes some shit sucks sometimes.Some other company will pick up Howard s show so it"ll be all good I guess.
Off topic
I'm sick of Bush,I voted for the real winner Al Gore 4 years ago and now I m voting for John Kerry or whoever is the democrat.


Posted by getfoul on Feb-26-2004 19:12:

only clear channel took him off, i still have him here. It wasnt his choice, it was clear channel saying they wanted his "dirty show" off the air on their airwaves.


Posted by caddyshack on Feb-26-2004 19:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
No, that�s what makes this society crap...people are pushing the limits to our bill of rights. I don�t think freedom of the press was meant so that porno can be advertised where we please...or advertised in general!


I think you make or society crap. Stop bitching about stupid crap and look the other way if you don't like it. Some of us enjoy Howard Stern, Southpark, ect. Whining vaginas like you will ruin it for all of us.


Posted by DaveSZ on Feb-26-2004 19:39:

The President appoints the FCC chair. His appointment is Michael Powell, Colon Powell's son. Basically he's just a whore for big media who continually supports raising the limit on the amount of newspapers, TV and radio stations that the media conglomerates can own.


5 media conglomerates control the majority of the US media, and it's downright dangerous when you consider how the media basically rubber-stamped the Iraq war. The main 3 are Viacom, AOL-Time Warner, and Disney. Clear Channel is a right-wing media conglomerate along with Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. They own the majority of the radio stations in the US.


Another good reason to get rid of Bush is because of the tremendous power that the regulatory agencies such as the FCC have, which have been filled with Bush appointments that disregard what is best for Americans. Media consolidation is a threat to America. When you control the media, you control the sheeple.


On another note, I agree Howard Stern is a prick and a low-life, but these recent moves amount to censorship of those with dissenting voices by a powerful member of the President's administration.


Posted by Nadi on Feb-26-2004 19:43:

I'm not sure what he did to get kicked off, but I'm gussing it was pretty bad because he's been lewd and whatever else clearchannel was calling him for a long time.


Posted by igottaknow on Feb-26-2004 20:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Nadi
I'm not sure what he did to get kicked off, but I'm gussing it was pretty bad because he's been lewd and whatever else clearchannel was calling him for a long time.

Clear channel isnt siting a specific incident they're saying the whole show is offensive.

Clear channel is full of shit they've been broadcasting Howard for years and they never had a problem with the content until they received a call from the Bush administration. Its was no seceret what type of show it is, for clear channel to claim their new found morals as the reason for dropping the show is laughable.


Posted by djSlain on Feb-26-2004 21:05:

from what i heard, the only reason they put suspension on him was because a CALLER had said the N word. Stern disconnected the call, but still got punished with "indecent material" on the air. BS
i've heard worse on LoveLine. If i remember correctly, Adam Corolla insisted listeners to brutalize the handicap. still funny, but c'mon


Posted by nrjizer on Feb-26-2004 21:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
I strongly disagree. I think that Americans and just society in general (in other countries as well) have just gone to shit. It�s like anything goes these days and no one gives a crap. I�m sorry, but if I had a 10 year old son who was watching the Superbowl and saw Justin Timberlake rip off Janet�s top to expose her tit w/ a pastey on her nipple, I�d be pissed. And all the attention whoring stars like Madonna, Christina and Britney kissing on stage on a show that young girls watch is disgraceful too. Then they think it�s cool, and the next thing you know, your daughter is on the cover of �Girls Gone Wild�. Trust me, your views will change as an adult with kids. The entertainment world should be a bit more considerate and discrete. And as far as Howard Stern goes, yea, his show is entertaining SOMEtimes...but he is the epitome of human scum. He exploits mentally handicapped people and has these stupid whores on his shows to talk about masterbation and sex and every single taboo topic you can think of. No body has any morals anymore including Howard Stern. He�s a stupid, ugly, scrawny fcuking tool who got lucky in showbiz.

my 2 cents


NEWS FLASH: Your 10 year old son has probably already been looking at porno mags his friend found in the back of his dads closet, if he hasn't already found it on the internet. I know I, and all my friends at that age, already knew just about everything there was to know about sex (and I'm not talking about biology here)

You can't bother trying to shelter kids because they're going to see it anyways, no matter what you do. You'll just end up fucking them up for life because you've tried to use security through obscurity, while he was out seeing it in the rest of the world.

I still can't fucking beleive so many people are worked up about a little flash of tit. Get over yourselves, America.


Posted by jinxed84 on Feb-26-2004 21:30:

quote:
Originally posted by caddyshack
I think you make or society crap. Stop bitching about stupid crap and look the other way if you don't like it. Some of us enjoy Howard Stern, Southpark, ect. Whining vaginas like you will ruin it for all of us.


the funny thing about that statement is you dont realize how blatently ignorant it was.

you bash her for expressing her opinion, yet you get mad when people try to quash the things you like? think about that for awhile.

given, your statement; as rude and pathetically immature as it was, is "your opinion". i technically should respect that. but i dont because youre being a twat. learn some respect. "your society" is based upon the work of free thinking. it may not seem that way now but every close-minded thug like yourself keeps putting that distance between what it was and what its turning into. so if you like watching your howard stern and your southpark i suggest you respect the ideals and ideas of others, or someone might treat you with said disregard for liberty and take what you like away from you.

i hope you learned something,
Mike


Posted by T:REBEL on Feb-26-2004 21:42:

Bush is an idiot.

He knows he can't win the election, so he's gotta do something to try and revive his political career as president.


Posted by Azz3D on Feb-26-2004 21:51:

Stern is a washed up has-been his 15 min was up 5 years ago


Posted by malek on Feb-26-2004 21:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
I strongly disagree. I think that Americans and just society in general (in other countries as well) have just gone to shit. It�s like anything goes these days and no one gives a crap. I�m sorry, but if I had a 10 year old son who was watching the Superbowl and saw Justin Timberlake rip off Janet�s top to expose her tit w/ a pastey on her nipple, I�d be pissed. And all the attention whoring stars like Madonna, Christina and Britney kissing on stage on a show that young girls watch is disgraceful too. Then they think it�s cool, and the next thing you know, your daughter is on the cover of �Girls Gone Wild�. Trust me, your views will change as an adult with kids. The entertainment world should be a bit more considerate and discrete. And as far as Howard Stern goes, yea, his show is entertaining SOMEtimes...but he is the epitome of human scum. He exploits mentally handicapped people and has these stupid whores on his shows to talk about masterbation and sex and every single taboo topic you can think of. No body has any morals anymore including Howard Stern. He�s a stupid, ugly, scrawny fcuking tool who got lucky in showbiz.

my 2 cents



Amen sister!


Posted by Slylee on Feb-26-2004 22:03:

quote:
Originally posted by nrjizer
NEWS FLASH: Your 10 year old son has probably already been looking at porno mags his friend found in the back of his dads closet, if he hasn't already found it on the internet. I know I, and all my friends at that age, already knew just about everything there was to know about sex (and I'm not talking about biology here)

You can't bother trying to shelter kids because they're going to see it anyways, no matter what you do. You'll just end up fucking them up for life because you've tried to use security through obscurity, while he was out seeing it in the rest of the world.

I still can't fucking beleive so many people are worked up about a little flash of tit. Get over yourselves, America.


well all you are saying is that just because it happens, it's OK. look, i am the LAST person on this earth who is going to be one of those naive mothers if i have kids. my parents always kept it real with me, and i will be the same with mine. when i lost my virginity, i went straight to my mom to get on birth control because she stressed the importance of being safe when i was ready, etc. and i felt comfortable enough to tell her. i'm just talking about the quality of people these days. i'm a bit old fashioned so sue me. i also happen to think that the education system (grade school - high school) should be same sex. high school isn't a place for education any more, it's a goddamn social life and kids are getting murdered and raped at such young ages. it makes me sick to my stomach to watch the news. it makes me want to raise my kid on a friggin island...the coolest, most intelligent people i know (not just book smart, but people with high emotional IQs as well) went to boarding schools in other countries and were well traveled as young adults.

of course not everyone can afford that, but something can certainly be done to help middle class people feel better about sending their kids to public school. they already passed laws here in florida for public schools that all the kids have to wear uniforms. i think it's great. that way, the poor kids who can't afford designer clothes won't get labeled and all that bullcrap. little steps like these can hopefully make a big change in the long run.

by the way, thanks jinxed84...


Posted by nrjizer on Feb-26-2004 23:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
well all you are saying is that just because it happens, it's OK. look, i am the LAST person on this earth who is going to be one of those naive mothers if i have kids. my parents always kept it real with me, and i will be the same with mine. when i lost my virginity, i went straight to my mom to get on birth control because she stressed the importance of being safe when i was ready, etc. and i felt comfortable enough to tell her. i'm just talking about the quality of people these days. i'm a bit old fashioned so sue me. i also happen to think that the education system (grade school - high school) should be same sex. high school isn't a place for education any more, it's a goddamn social life and kids are getting murdered and raped at such young ages. it makes me sick to my stomach to watch the news. it makes me want to raise my kid on a friggin island...the coolest, most intelligent people i know (not just book smart, but people with high emotional IQs as well) went to boarding schools in other countries and were well traveled as young adults.

of course not everyone can afford that, but something can certainly be done to help middle class people feel better about sending their kids to public school. they already passed laws here in florida for public schools that all the kids have to wear uniforms. i think it's great. that way, the poor kids who can't afford designer clothes won't get labeled and all that bullcrap. little steps like these can hopefully make a big change in the long run.

by the way, thanks jinxed84...


I don't agree about seperate sex schools. Everyone's a human being, I don't see why segregating gender is good for kids. The reason why kids are being murdered and raped is simply because the American school system is a fucking joke. The teachers don't care, the classes are packed, and on top of it parents aren't teaching their kids simple morals. The reason your friends who went to boarding school have their heads on straight isn't because they were separated from the opposite sex, its because their parents were paying good money to put them in a private school with small classes and intelligent teachers.

Btw I don't see why school uniforms would make any difference. I think its a horrible idea, forcing kids to wear them. If you haven't rased your child to ignore taunts and labels then you've failed as a parent in the first place. Why should kids be forced to wear something they don't want to wear so a few kids with low self esteem and no-name clothes won't have to put up with being labeled? FYI, those kids are gonna get taunted and picked on no matter what they're wearing.

It's all just part of public school conditioning, to prepare a child to be another brick in the wall, pretty much.


Posted by Shook1 on Feb-27-2004 00:32:

Smoking ..umm..something

Howard Stern 4 President!

no, j/k. But lets be serious. Any1 tuning into the Howard Stern show should be old enough to accept the fact that its all a "show" and its a joke! Come on. If u have little kids that are listening to this then thats strictly on the parents. I'm sick of hearing how its so & so's fault for this & that happening, but the question remains "Where are the parents?". Okay, the Super Bowl thing was kinda out of context because anyone could be watching that, but Stern? He's been doing outrageous sh!t for years and now all of a sudden its a bad thing & now he's gone past the limit. Fox & these reality tv shows have gone over the limit for quite some time. I just think the parents should be more in tuned to what their kids are doing & actually do some parenting for once!


Posted by Hg-203 on Feb-27-2004 01:38:

I don�t know how this will go with so many Clear Channel haters, but CC only owns 6 stations that even run Stern and those stations are in low markets. This is more of a PR move by CC then anything else. Personally I feel that that Stern�s show shouldn�t be on the time slot that it�s in, his show is more setup to the late night show when young children are asleep, but that�s probably the conservative bible carrying little old me talking.


Posted by gdj^ on Feb-27-2004 03:04:

Re: Howard Stern off the air?

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
god i hate bush.


I couldn't agree more. . . .
Fuck Bush.


Posted by caddyshack on Feb-27-2004 03:27:

quote:
Originally posted by jinxed84
the funny thing about that statement is you dont realize how blatently ignorant it was.

you bash her for expressing her opinion, yet you get mad when people try to quash the things you like? think about that for awhile.

given, your statement; as rude and pathetically immature as it was, is "your opinion". i technically should respect that. but i dont because youre being a twat. learn some respect. "your society" is based upon the work of free thinking. it may not seem that way now but every close-minded thug like yourself keeps putting that distance between what it was and what its turning into. so if you like watching your howard stern and your southpark i suggest you respect the ideals and ideas of others, or someone might treat you with said disregard for liberty and take what you like away from you.

i hope you learned something,
Mike


well, if you think about it, its people like him/her that closed space in miami, or took howard off the air. maybe if you didn't put words in my mouth i would sound less ignorant. I never said free thinking was bad, but if you want to take howard stern off the air because YOU don't like it then thats bs.

If you actually read the posts, you would know the only one that said the freedom to choose was bad slylee. and i choose to believe that attitude is crap


Posted by SuperFarStucker on Feb-27-2004 03:31:

I think everyone needs to CHILL THE FUCK OUT


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