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Posted by Diehard_clubber on Apr-09-2004 19:12:

Amature DJ forum.... way more prog mixes than trance.

Just skipping through that forum, where i often put some of my own prog mixes up, but is it just me or are there hardly any trance mixes anymore? Considering this is TRANCE addict, i find that a bit strange.


Posted by torontotrance on Apr-09-2004 19:17:

but if you realize that most people love trance on this board but we also love tons of other styles.


Posted by rob_sardellitti on Apr-09-2004 19:18:

well to me, progressive is true trance. its basically what all the lame synthlines and what not branch from...

id much rather hear progressive (now a days anyways) then trance...much more quality coming from that department


Posted by Diehard_clubber on Apr-09-2004 19:22:

quote:
Originally posted by rob_sardellitti


id much rather hear progressive (now a days anyways) then trance...much more quality coming from that department
Yeah, prog is deffo back on the upwards climb again


Posted by svens_bath on Apr-09-2004 23:52:

its cos sasha has got a lot more melodic(/trancey?) last year, and so more people have gotten into prog+the rise and rise of zabiela has got more people into breaks too. think i actually preferred sasha in 2001/02 when he was playing more hypnotic and deeper, but its good to see people in general diversifying their tastes in music


Posted by Dmatrox on Apr-10-2004 00:00:

I prefer prog mixes


Posted by Cobalt on Apr-10-2004 00:27:

Ooo, ooh! I'll record a sharp one over the weekend, then.

Though looking through on my own, I don't see any particular glut of progressive.


Posted by BeeJay on Apr-10-2004 00:30:

choices are changing, trance fans like prog also and nowdays even more!!! I don't skip it... it owns!!!


Posted by Disco_Stu on Apr-10-2004 05:26:

Disco Stu would like to see a disco-mix!


Posted by Floorfiller on Apr-10-2004 06:53:

i think that is because its a little easier to mix prog...there are a couple of people in there that are good, but the majority kinda suck tracklist wise...

also i've been thinking about doing some older mixes of like 93-95ish stuff...would you guys want to listen to them if i do em??


Posted by XeQtOr on Apr-10-2004 07:17:

Prog is not easier to mix than normal trance. Trance is soooo much easier to mix.


Posted by Floorfiller on Apr-10-2004 07:20:

quote:
Originally posted by XeQtOr
Prog is not easier to mix than normal trance. Trance is soooo much easier to mix.


please don't see that as a knock on either genre because i like both, its just technically...i think its a little easier to beatmatch prog...


Posted by Slade on Apr-10-2004 08:06:

Trance is actually easier to mix.

30 second mixes are easier to maintain than my 4 min prog mixes.


Posted by cmanoa on Apr-10-2004 08:26:

Slower bpms require more preciseness.

Just remember the wise words of someone long forgotten:

"How can you tell when a jungle dj trainwrecks? Simple, you can't!"

*awaits the backlash*


Posted by Tranc3 on Apr-10-2004 08:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
also i've been thinking about doing some older mixes of like 93-95ish stuff...would you guys want to listen to them if i do em??


I would


Posted by pooley on Apr-10-2004 09:24:

Blame markus


Posted by ASOT100 on Apr-10-2004 10:49:

I think we have so many trance djs and producers that all the innovative ideas get used up quick but as with prog there aren't as many djs and producers (am i correct?) so that the innovation is more spread out in time instead of all at once like trance


Posted by Diehard_clubber on Apr-10-2004 12:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
i think that is because its a little easier to mix prog...there are a couple of people in there that are good, but the majority kinda suck tracklist wise...

Well i wouldn't say that. I've played both and the only real issue with trance is key changes. You've got to watch that 2 different sythns from different tunes arn't playing at the same time in different keys or it sounds crap. Mixes tend to be a lot quicker with trance as a result.

At times simple beat matching can be easier as well, but there is a lot more all round skill needed i think with making a prog mix sound smooth. It can be in perfect time but still sounds awful. ( oh and my tracklists deffo don't suck )


Posted by svens_bath on Apr-10-2004 12:19:

i agree with Floorfiller on this one. i think that its much easier to mix prog then to mix trance well, because prog tunes are in general more layered than trance tunes and there are more sounds going on, so its relatively easy to blend tunes in and out of each other, whereas with trance, to mix it well requires a great deal more imagination, beacuse your dealing with a more basic sound, i think....this is just what i found when i mixed trance....saying that i think the real talent in prog is the set structure. its what spearates the really good from the rest.


Posted by Ian on Apr-10-2004 17:12:

the real fun is in mixing techno & being able to experiment much more, trance can be good if mixed well but theres a world of mini armin van buurens all playing the same songs that make it boring, harder trance (scot p) is coming back after 12 months lull now too, and im branching into psy more also which is the hardest of all of them to mix, simply cos of the random beat patterns


Posted by Diehard_clubber on Apr-10-2004 17:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian^
, harder trance (scot p) is coming back
What?

It's never been further away!


Posted by Ian on Apr-10-2004 17:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Diehard_clubber
What?

It's never been further away!


theres more good hard trance tunes in the last 3 months or so, than in a long time, it might not be featured in the 'big' clubs like crasher & gods now to such a big extent, but Scot Project, Yoji & Tom Harding for example are playing blinding sets lately, and ASYS are shit hot production wise. It's probably good for it that it doesn't become too popular again anyway, as we were just left with horrid tracks that counted as 'hard' but with these dj's plus those playing acid/hard techno @ Antiworld/Psygate/Zogg, there's a good choice of music for those who don't want it too soft


Posted by stupidisco on Apr-10-2004 20:41:

trance is boring.

trance dj:
look at me! me me me! woohoo i can swap basslines. wait... wait... ok ::breakdown:: (GOD POSE) (PUMP FISTS IN 4 COUNT) (GOD POSE).

30 second mixes take so much skill.

any just to let you know-- you have to look for "key clashes" in every genre, not just trance.


Posted by Cobalt on Apr-10-2004 20:56:

quote:
Originally posted by stupidisco
trance is boring.

trance dj:
look at me! me me me! woohoo i can swap basslines. wait... wait... ok ::breakdown:: (GOD POSE) (PUMP FISTS IN 4 COUNT) (GOD POSE).

30 second mixes take so much skill.

any just to let you know-- you have to look for "key clashes" in every genre, not just trance.


a) I am a trance DJ, and I do not do that. In fact, I discourage any act that allows a trance DJ to glory in himself for playing other people's music. Credit goes most to the producer, not the DJ; the latter is simply a vehicle.

b) Mixing trance involves more than swapping basslines, and anyone who does simply that does not count as a good trance DJ in my book (*cough*Armin*cough*).

c) And your purpose for being on tranceaddict is...?


Posted by Ian on Apr-10-2004 21:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
a) I am a trance DJ, and I do not do that. In fact, I discourage any act that allows a trance DJ to glory in himself for playing other people's music. Credit goes most to the producer, not the DJ; the latter is simply a vehicle.

b) Mixing trance involves more than swapping basslines, and anyone who does simply that does not count as a good trance DJ in my book (*cough*Armin*cough*).

c) And your purpose for being on tranceaddict is...?


i said the same words to him in a different thread when he called trance shitty and i'll reiterate them so that even the most advanced of people who have such better music tastes than us can understand them


Recipe To shut up elitist fuckjob

Take one pinch of your penis (should you be able to locate it, up there on your head)

Squeeze gently until moderate to immense pain is felt

Add 2 tablespoons of hydrochloric acid to it

Stir gently, trying not to scream


Stick 2 pencils up your nose

Take your wank elitist opinions and stick them up your ass, then headbutt the table very very very very very very very hard


it seems like we're just not worthy of all these people who must be sooooo much better than us cos of their music tastes


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