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Posted by dj_cuba on Apr-10-2004 16:36:

Question Why Are Drugs Bad?

I have been wondering about this for a long time. All the drugs that give you a high, Ecstacy, Coke, Heroin etc. are all bad for you, obviously

So why is this? Surely with todays science it would be possible to make a drug that gives you the same kind of high but with no side effects to the body. Why is it that everything that's pleasurable has to be bad?


Posted by DigiNut on Apr-10-2004 17:10:

Realistically, just about everything is bad for you in the long term, not just drugs. Too much of anything can kill you, and drugs make you want to have lots and lots of them.


Posted by Perfect_Cheezit on Apr-10-2004 17:14:

^what he said,

plus you're introducing a foreign, processed and generally unnatural substance into your body. Medicines obviously are too but these things aren't here to assist your immune system.


Posted by Fast Turtle on Apr-10-2004 17:25:

It all depends on the drug you're talking about, dose, method of administration, ect...


Posted by dj_cuba on Apr-10-2004 17:25:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Realistically, just about everything is bad for you in the long term, not just drugs. Too much of anything can kill you, and drugs make you want to have lots and lots of them.


Yes, but drugs designed to get you high are probably the worst thing for your body to physically take.

You don't hear of someone dying after taking 1 asprin or paracetamol. I'm not trying to get preachy, I'm all for the use of hard drugs as long as they are used resonsibly. It just confuses me as to why they are so bad compared to others.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Apr-10-2004 17:34:

actually its not that bad physically cept for the lack of eating...if u forced urself to eat ud be ok..whats bad abt drugs is mentally u turned fucked up...ur personality changes once ur a drug fiend and ur priorties change as well...u live every mintue for the next highand once ur high ur a complete dickwad...drugs are bad mmmkay


Posted by DigiNut on Apr-10-2004 17:34:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_cuba
Yes, but drugs designed to get you high are probably the worst thing for your body to physically take.

You don't hear of someone dying after taking 1 asprin or paracetamol. I'm not trying to get preachy, I'm all for the use of hard drugs as long as they are used resonsibly. It just confuses me as to why they are so bad compared to others.

That really isn't true though, and I don't know what you're basing it on. Weed and ecstasy aren't really bad for you unless you take them in excess. Even cocaine doesn't have severe negative effects if it's pure enough (it's "dirty" cocaine that's the worst for you).

But I guess, if you want a "general" explanation?

Many things that damage our brains seem to produce a "good" feeling. Alcohol is literally poison. So perhaps you've got it backwards - it's not that the things that make us high are bad for us, it's that many things which are bad for us just happen to make us high.

Many exceptions to that generality though, as stated earlier.


Posted by {b.s.e.} on Apr-10-2004 18:03:

It's the slow and inevitable loss of brain power most of us can look forward to. Then again, many of my friend's parents (and including my own) were quite ..experimental in their day, and most of them are bang on with everything...... except for those......pauses....in....between thoughts.


Posted by Dmatrox on Apr-10-2004 18:10:

some of the illegal drugs were made by pharmaceutical companies like Merck.

Of course their intention isnt to poison or harm people

quote:
So why is this? Surely with todays science it would be possible to make a drug that gives you the same kind of high but with no side effects to the body. Why is it that everything that's pleasurable has to be bad?


Yeah maybe. If there is a substance that people find pleasurable, it may eventually lead to substance abuse, which isnt good. Even some legal drugs lead to abuse too, but its the government's decision to decide which drugs are legal probably according to substance abuse rates and toxicity of the substance (carcinogenic, side effects).


Posted by Turbonium on Apr-10-2004 18:25:

Well think about it. If all these "pleasure drugs" didn't have harmful effects, the whole world would be taking them like mad, and so the whole world would be, in-effect, a pleasure seeking mad-house full of manic clowns.


Posted by trancepixie17 on Apr-10-2004 19:25:

The reasons drugs are bad is because people like you experiment on them with their pets! jc. That's also why they are illegal. because you odn't know how to use them correctly.


Posted by dj_cuba on Apr-10-2004 20:02:

quote:
Originally posted by trancepixie17
The reasons drugs are bad is because people like you experiment on them with their pets! jc. That's also why they are illegal. because you odn't know how to use them correctly.


Yet another person who thinks I give my dog ecstacy..

Read the post properly and you will see that it was an article I found, I don't even own a damn dog!


Posted by DigiNut on Apr-10-2004 20:07:

quote:
Originally posted by trancepixie17
The reasons drugs are bad is because people like you experiment on them with their pets! jc. That's also why they are illegal. because you odn't know how to use them correctly.

Going by that logic, they probably should make the internet illegal for *ahem* certain people.


Posted by dj_cuba on Apr-10-2004 20:20:

quote:
Yet another person who thinks I give my dog ecstacy..

Read the post properly and you will see that it was an article I found, I don't even own a damn dog!


quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Going by that logic, they probably should make the internet illegal for *ahem* certain people.


Are my posts not visible or something? lol


Posted by Mr. Pink on Apr-10-2004 22:41:

Rasta

too many drugs in a small period of time = bad

thats all i know.


*eye twitch*


Posted by BobbyV on Apr-10-2004 23:42:

take for example acid. people get "fried" as most call it. it's called that because its frying your fucking brain cells. that's why people hallucinate and see the most bizarre things happen. if you take too much acid, you cant get out of the state it puts you in. my friend took 16 drops a couple years ago and he has NEVER come out. it's pretty sad. one time he was at his house and saw a TROLL run through his front door and out his backdoor. yeah, a troll...


Posted by petro on Apr-11-2004 00:04:

just be fully educated about what you are taking...before you actually take it..and dont get into hard drugs like haroin or coke..know where to draw the line


Posted by Fast Turtle on Apr-11-2004 00:07:

quote:
Originally posted by BobbyV
take for example acid. people get "fried" as most call it. it's called that because its frying your fucking brain cells. that's why people hallucinate and see the most bizarre things happen. if you take too much acid, you cant get out of the state it puts you in. my friend took 16 drops a couple years ago and he has NEVER come out. it's pretty sad. one time he was at his house and saw a TROLL run through his front door and out his backdoor. yeah, a troll...


LSD doesn't work by killing braincells...it alters the balance of a number of different neurochemical sites in the brain. PCP, DXM, Ketamine, and other disassociative hallucinogens are the ones that actually work via the destruction of your brain cells.


Posted by Mr. Pink on Apr-11-2004 00:32:

Rasta

How do you never come out ?

are you on a constant trip...or is it that you're just not the same ever?


Posted by BobbyV on Apr-11-2004 00:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Lephaid
LSD doesn't work by killing braincells...it alters the balance of a number of different neurochemical sites in the brain. PCP, DXM, Ketamine, and other disassociative hallucinogens are the ones that actually work via the destruction of your brain cells.


Well, either way, it certainly isnt good for you. Yeah Mr Pink, the trip has never stopped.


Posted by Mr. Pink on Apr-11-2004 00:41:

Rasta

holy shit
that's fuckin insane.


Posted by Arbiter on Apr-11-2004 01:30:

Drugs are not "bad." There is nothing inherent about the substances which makes them evil or undesirable in any way. If the fact that you could use them unwisely and thereby harm yourself makes them "bad," then almost everything is bad (you can drown yourself in water).

If someone tells you that drugs are bad, I would consider that a sufficient condition upon which to classify them as an idiot. If someone tells you that abusing drugs is bad, then you might want to ask them what it is "good" to abuse.


Posted by Krypton on Apr-11-2004 04:32:

krack saved my marraige

EDIT: and Heroine gave me my life back

dont hate on the drugs people, it all comes from nature


Posted by Dr. Cfire on Apr-12-2004 14:57:

Drugs are bad mkay.
Cause if you do drugs, your bad mkay.


Posted by Electronicmaji on Apr-12-2004 15:47:

quote:
Drugs are not "bad." There is nothing inherent about the substances which makes them evil or undesirable in any way.



so says you....


oh and dont worry ive already ordered a helicopter strike to the hosues of all you who support drugs...


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