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Posted by Bronze on Apr-14-2004 16:59:

Question Next Prime Minister in Canada

I vote for Steven Harper
quote:
Monday, April 05, 2004

(TRURO, N.S.) Opposition Leader Stephen Harper today, in a major economic speech, challenged the Prime Minister to come clean with his fiscal projections, and outlined six principles on which a Conservative economic plan will be based.

�This government�s fiscal dishonesty is symbolized by its latest budget,� said Harper. �This is apparent by the systematic underestimating of the federal surplus. Padded spending estimates have allowed this government to disguise waste, mismanagement and corruption. It is time for Paul Martin to come clean.�

�Paul Martin can�t have it both ways,� stated Harper. �He claims to have had a tight rein on spending, but hasn�t implemented even the most elementary spending control mechanisms. He claims to have reformed government programs, and to have eliminated waste and abuse, but he says that he had no idea that $100 million was shoveled into the hands of Liberal friendly advertising firms.�

�The sad irony of Liberal financial management is that spending continues to be ramped up each year, yet the only Canadians who seem to benefit are those who are friends of the Liberal Party,� commented Harper. �Our elderly are waiting longer for medical services, our students are paying higher tuition, our armed forces are watching their equipment decay, and our communities are watching their infrastructure crumble.�

Harper also outlined the six principles on which the Conservative economic plan will be based, which are:

Honest surplus forecast assessments;
Targeted spending in areas that are of the highest priority to Canadians, including national defence and security, and compensation for our agriculture and forestry communities;
Additional funding for health care that is accompanied by objectives and performance measures;
Legislated debt pay down to meet specific targets;
Low tax, rather than high spending solutions, to public policy issues; and,
Tax reduction funded by eliminating government waste and mismanagement.
�We believe that honest and transparent government is the only way to fully address the priorities of Canadians. Today, we have shown why the Conservative Party can be trusted to ensure that Canadians� priorities reach fruition,� concluded Harper.


Posted by Itso on Apr-14-2004 19:47:

Steven Harper, are you nuts, he's as good as Ralph Klein and believe me Ralphy is only good for a bar owner from an old, western cowboy movie, town.


Posted by St_Andrew on Apr-14-2004 20:28:

hmm i know nothing about them, what does they stand for, when is the election, who is in the lead etc? =)


Posted by Dmatrox on Apr-14-2004 20:38:

Initially, i would have voted for Paul Martin, but since government scandals have been exposed and various other problems within the liberal government most specificially non disclosure of information and secrecy (unlike the US in this aspect), i am undecided.

I would not vote Harper because his knowledge and experience is not sufficient. Also, the conservatives are a bit right for my liking.

I would not vote NDP because they are socialists.

In terms of a political stance, i like where the liberal stands, but i still suspect wrong doing.


Related reading:

http://www.cbc.ca/disclosure/archiv...html#disclosure


Posted by zarathustra on Apr-14-2004 22:28:

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
hmm i know nothing about them, what does they stand for, when is the election, who is in the lead etc? =)


It has less to do with platform then with power. Paul Martin is the head of the Liberal party which currently enjoys a majority in the Parliament. He took over the party (and hence became Prime Minister) late last year and said that he would call an election sometime this Spring.

His government has been under fire from the opposition for corruption lately and so he might lose his majority if there was an election today. However anyone who things that the PC party would beat the Liberals in an election this Spring/Summer with the current situation remaining as it is, is dreaming.

Personally, I like Paul Martin. I believe that the corruption in the party is largely due to Chretien and his cronies. I find it strange how everyone is blaming him yet if they actually examined what he was doing, they would realize that he is taking serious steps to clean up the government. He seems a lot more focused on actually governing and accomplishing things than just holding on to power.


Posted by Dmatrox on Apr-14-2004 22:38:

quote:
Originally posted by zarathustra
Personally, I like Paul Martin. I believe that the corruption in the party is largely due to Chretien and his cronies. I find it strange how everyone is blaming him yet if they actually examined what he was doing, they would realize that he is taking serious steps to clean up the government. He seems a lot more focused on actually governing and accomplishing things than just holding on to power.


Look at the link i put in above.

I like paul martin too, but he chose not to release a 323 page report on meetings between him and his private company in a parliment meeting room while he was in office. Dont you think this is suspicious? I do. If you have nothing to hide, wouldnt you show it? Because not showing key documents under freedom to information act can hurt your reputation.

and yeah, liberals will probably win


Posted by rizo on Apr-14-2004 23:17:

no idea who they are, so voted for the option that made me laff... "Jack Layton...maybe he's gay"


Posted by Dr. Cfire on Apr-15-2004 03:13:

I would like to say steven Harper. But welcome to canada ontario is going to be dumb enough to vote Liberal yet again and we will have another term of where is the money Paul?

Really how does the finance minister not know where the money is going. How do we pay millions of dollars for products and services that never existed.


Posted by overdose006 on Apr-15-2004 03:49:

go go gadget NDP
common it could happen.


Posted by malek on Apr-15-2004 04:58:

I think i'll vote NDP.


Posted by Bronze on Apr-15-2004 08:10:

Read about the PC


Posted by Bronze on Apr-16-2004 05:49:

let's goooo
Steven Harper is a good guy.


Posted by dEsidEL on Apr-16-2004 06:18:

KarateKid



i'll only vote Harper is he deports some of the ppl in Scarborough ..


Posted by DaveSZ on Apr-16-2004 13:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Bronze
Read about the PC



I read their platform, and it's certainly a far cry from the US Republican Party platform of gay bashing and forcing Christian Fundamentalism upon everyone. They even think everyone should have healthcare and a clean environment.

If the US does turn into Iran, I know where I'm going lol.


Posted by DaveSZ on Apr-16-2004 13:38:

Compare the Texas Republican platform to the Canadian Conservative Party platform, and thank Allah you don't have the South dragging down your country like a club foot:


http://www.theocracywatch.org/texas_gop.htm


Posted by Bronze on Apr-16-2004 15:12:

why thx Allah?


Posted by Yohan on Apr-18-2004 12:37:

Steve Harper is a prick who doesn't know his elbow from his ass. He's also tainted with old CRAP (Conservative Alliance) therefore too right for most Canadians' taste, esp. the immigrant population.

Jack Layton probably smokes some good quality BC pot to think properly. Hey, it's NDP. You know, the party has collective powwows and think their ramblings somehow make sense.

Paul Martin, well, I like him better than Cretin, but I laugh at him cuz Canada helped to liberate Norway in 1944.
And he's a liberal. How do you know when a Liberal is lying? He's in front of a microphone.

But hey, as long as he promises health care and maybe some education money, the Ontario votes will go to Liberals and that's all that really matters.

Lewis Mackenzie for PM.


Posted by Dmatrox on Apr-18-2004 17:31:

quote:
Originally posted by DaveSZ
Compare the Texas Republican platform to the Canadian Conservative Party platform, and thank Allah you don't have the South dragging down your country like a club foot:


http://www.theocracywatch.org/texas_gop.htm



lol, thats fucked up


Posted by Matt on Apr-19-2004 02:57:

I am voting NDP this coming election.

I hope that Canada will now work under a minority Liberal government. The government needs some reform... we have been functioning under a majority Liberal gov't for too long.



As for Stephen Harper, he is a fucking right-wing extremist, and a dumb one at that.

"Happy India Day!"... dumbass..


Posted by Dmatrox on Apr-19-2004 03:41:

theres a lot of socialists around here

i think NDP is too left wing and the conservatives are too right wing.


Posted by Matt on Apr-19-2004 03:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Dmatrox
theres a lot of socialists around here

i think NDP is too left wing and the conservatives are too right wing.


NDP too left wing?

They aren't left enough for me.

But I really hope the government swings a little to the left, because there's be a shift to the right lately... probably due to influence from the republican USA.


Posted by Bronze on Apr-19-2004 16:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Matt
NDP too left wing?

They aren't left enough for me.

But I really hope the government swings a little to the left, because there's be a shift to the right lately... probably due to influence from the republican USA.




Ayoye ...??!!!???

Matt what are you doing???

They aren't left enough for me.
They aren't left enough for me.
They aren't left enough for me.
They aren't left enough for me.
They aren't left enough for me.
They aren't left enough for me.
They aren't left enough for me.
?????????????????????????????????????????????

why do you want a left party?
----to spend more money in social reform???

----to authorize gay thing and shit...???

----to destroy our economy???

----to bring lot more people that we don't want here?


VOTE HARPER
if not
you are just a communist...go live in CUba if you like communist

For me, I want to work FOR ME...and I don't want to pay tax for all the people who are Fak all in this country...

La gauche �a crone tellement...
N'importe qui, qui est moindrement travaillant et qui espere qqc dans la vie ne veut pas d'un parti de gauche...
Le parti liberal est d�j� assez influencer par ses militants de gauche.
anyway...
vote for the one you want...


Posted by Bronze on Apr-19-2004 16:42:

la gauche me fait peur...
les socialistes me font peur...

Jai tellement peur ici...

quote:
As for Stephen Harper, he is a fucking right-wing extremist, and a dumb one at that.


Matt I think you are the DUMB...!


Posted by malek on Apr-19-2004 17:01:

ta gueule


Posted by Bronze on Apr-19-2004 17:05:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
ta gueule


hein???
J'Ai le droit de dire se que JE veux?!?
m�me si tu penses po la m�me chose...


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