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Posted by yokes=best on May-22-2004 01:54:

tech-trance

Any recomendations of quality tech-trance tracks? Similar to That Mucho-Dont Snare At Me or S.H.O.K.K.-My Madness(Marcel Woods Remix)


Posted by Faj27 on May-22-2004 02:05:

hey man, don't mean to sound like an ass but tech-trance truly doesn't exist...

it was made by a bunch of anthem and epic/hard trance producers who merely wished to escape the same builds as trance is constructed upon. thus, titles of tech trance have been to djs such as picotto, who's never even played a trance song

buddy, i think u need to look up ur definitions of trance, and realize that tech-trance doesn't exist

even people such as J00F or Marcel Woods claim to play techno, but they are nothing more than sitty trance djs

so, i'll give "hard trance" as a genre, but if u really want hard, try techno (chris liebing, dj rush)

laterz


Posted by sandstorm03 on May-22-2004 02:45:

tit play by play.

The LEFT TIT throws a punch for good tech trance, and the right tit says tech-trance doesnt exist. And gives an example of S.H.O.K.K.

The RIGHT TIT yells and says
quote:
hey man, don't mean to sound like an ass but tech-trance truly doesn't exist...
,

then goes on to Pummel the LEFT TIT with

quote:
tech trance have been to djs such as picotto, who's never even played a trance song


Up on the score board is

01 - THX Intro
02 - Josh Wink - Don't Laugh (Mauro Picotto Mix)
03 - Mauro Picotto - Komodo (Tea Mix)
04 - Mauro Picotto - Pegasus (Superclub Mix)
05 -
06 - Mauro Picotto - Iguana (Mas Mix)
07 - Megamind - Sturm und Drang (Pleasure Mix)
08 - Jamie Bissmire - Number and Measure (Chris McCormack Mix)
09 - DJ Gabry - Jaiss Bangin (Bang Mix)
10 - Adam Beyer - Conform 12 (Lost & Found E.P)(a1)
11 - Mauro Picotto - Bug
12 - Mauro Picotto - Lizard (Megavoices Mix)
13 - Dumonde - See the Light (Mauro Picotto Mix)
14 - Lava - Autumn (Megamind Mix)
15 - Plastik Man - Global Sound
16 - Dave The Drummer - Implant (Acid Techno Is Alive Remix)
17 - ID
18 - Mauro Picotto - Iguana (Claxixx Mix)
19 - Mauro Picotto - Pegasus (Tea Mix)
20 - Blank & Jones - The Nightfly (Original Mix)


The RIGHT TIT also says
quote:
even people such as J00F or Marcel Woods claim to play techno, but they are nothing more than sitty trance djs
. We happen to have guest Refaree J00F in the house, and tells you to fuck off since he plays Psy trance. And trips the RIGHT TIT.

as the RIGHT TIT watches his dreams that Picotto never played trance pass infront of him the LEFT TIT destroys the RIGHT TIT KO! DING DING DING


Posted by Boomer187 on May-22-2004 02:49:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
tit play by play.

The LEFT TIT throws a punch for good tech trance, and the right tit says tech-trance doesnt exist. And gives an example of S.H.O.K.K.

The RIGHT TIT yells and says ,

then goes on to Pummel the LEFT TIT with



Up on the score board is

01 - THX Intro
02 - Josh Wink - Don't Laugh (Mauro Picotto Mix)
03 - Mauro Picotto - Komodo (Tea Mix)
04 - Mauro Picotto - Pegasus (Superclub Mix)
05 -
06 - Mauro Picotto - Iguana (Mas Mix)
07 - Megamind - Sturm und Drang (Pleasure Mix)
08 - Jamie Bissmire - Number and Measure (Chris McCormack Mix)
09 - DJ Gabry - Jaiss Bangin (Bang Mix)
10 - Adam Beyer - Conform 12 (Lost & Found E.P)(a1)
11 - Mauro Picotto - Bug
12 - Mauro Picotto - Lizard (Megavoices Mix)
13 - Dumonde - See the Light (Mauro Picotto Mix)
14 - Lava - Autumn (Megamind Mix)
15 - Plastik Man - Global Sound
16 - Dave The Drummer - Implant (Acid Techno Is Alive Remix)
17 - ID
18 - Mauro Picotto - Iguana (Claxixx Mix)
19 - Mauro Picotto - Pegasus (Tea Mix)
20 - Blank & Jones - The Nightfly (Original Mix)


The RIGHT TIT also says . We happen to have guest Refaree J00F in the house, and tells you to fuck off since he plays Psy trance. And trips the RIGHT TIT.

as the RIGHT TIT watches his dreams that Picotto never played trance pass infront of him the LEFT TIT destroys the RIGHT TIT KO! DING DING DING



Posted by yokes=best on May-22-2004 03:11:

I dont mean to be an ass-hole either but are you serious!clearly tech-trance does exist!Trance with a techno sound.I know my genres and its a sub-genre.
It can also be called electric trance see for example Judge Jules album Trance Nation Electric.
The two songs i mentined in the original post are clesrly tech trance.The new cosmic gate song(bilingual) is tech trance .I could go on listing songs and artists which are tech trance!


Posted by 3xx3r7 on May-22-2004 04:08:


Posted by sandstorm03 on May-22-2004 04:22:

what is teh search?


Posted by kaymak on May-22-2004 10:29:

quote:
hey man, don't mean to sound like an ass but tech-trance truly doesn't exist...


Eh????, then what would u call Tiesto, flight 643, traffic.....
Hemmstock and Jennings, crimson soil "John O Callaghan mix".....etc


Their not Trance.... Their not Techo, hence the genre of tech-trance


Posted by kaymak on May-22-2004 10:33:

quote:
hey man, don't mean to sound like an ass but tech-trance truly doesn't exist...

quote:
it was made by a bunch of anthem and epic/hard trance producers who merely wished to escape the same builds as trance is constructed upon. thus, titles of tech trance have been to djs such as picotto, who's never even played a trance song

quote:
buddy, i think u need to look up ur definitions of trance, and realize that tech-trance doesn't exist

Oh and P.S., theirs no nees to be such an obnoxios ass either, he was only askin a question which u cleary answered wrong,

Go..........Go on and eat those words


Posted by chesco on May-22-2004 11:00:

picotto did clearly used to play a lot of trance in his sets so i don't know where you get that faj. However what he didn't do was play tech trance, he played a mixture of techno and trance and some hard trance.


Posted by DRM on May-22-2004 11:54:

cant even be arsed to argue in here. wouldnt know where to start


Posted by slinkyhead on May-22-2004 11:56:

quote:
Originally posted by DRM
cant even be arsed to argue in here. wouldnt know where to start


ditto


Posted by Reactic on May-22-2004 12:39:

always thought ferry corsten plays tech trance


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on May-22-2004 12:46:

quote:
Originally posted by yokes=best
I dont mean to be an ass-hole either but are you serious!clearly tech-trance does exist!Trance with a techno sound.I know my genres and its a sub-genre.
It can also be called electric trance see for example Judge Jules album Trance Nation Electric.
The two songs i mentined in the original post are clesrly tech trance.The new cosmic gate song(bilingual) is tech trance .I could go on listing songs and artists which are tech trance!



I don't mean to be an arse either, but did you know that your space bar does infact continue to work even after you have used a piece of punctuation? Just a thought.


Posted by Faj27 on May-22-2004 16:00:

ok ok...i knew this would evolve into a spree to save "tech-trance"

those of u who claim u've been educated about electronice music forever should really look up ur definitions. tech-trance doesn't exist. two genres that are soooooo different cannot collide as one because of what is called a build and a break. if u really look back, u'll find that what u call "tech-trance" is merely techno, and most of the mainstream shit today is sadly mislabeled. listen to Jeff Mills - The Bells, which is a detroit techno song which was created before trance even emerged. and for u tiesto fans who claim traffic is a tech-trance song, i'd hate to break it to u that his song was sampled from Sean Deason - Psykofuk >>> Techno!!!

I'll give u that picotto did play some trance in his day, but tracks like Komodo aren't even played by him anymore. Now that Picotto is doing b2b sets with Liebeing this summer in Ibiza, be sure to find that he'll play nothing other than pure techno

trance was appreciated by me for a different reason which died off a while ago. Songs like Requim for a Dream or Seven Cities were great, but now the new suff has just become that commercial cheese. And to even mention the two genres together is like comparing apples and oranges.

And whoever mention Dumonde as Tech-Trance >>>> LMFAO!!!!!!


Posted by sandstorm03 on May-22-2004 17:28:

I'm appointing you vice president of sex and music...


















It means what when I want your fucking advice, I'll whistle.


in the meantime please click here .


Posted by Wildfir3 on May-22-2004 18:24:

teh noobage is strong in this one!


Posted by noikeee on May-22-2004 18:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Faj27
tech-trance doesn't exist.


as far as i agree that some of the stuff that's labeled as 'tech-trance' doesn't sound remotely similar to techno (and that many stuff that is out there is just plain shit), you can't deny that there's stuff that blend the two sides what do you consider to be the border then?


Posted by DRM on May-22-2004 18:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Faj27
ok ok...i knew this would evolve into a spree to save "tech-trance"

those of u who claim u've been educated about electronice music forever should really look up ur definitions. tech-trance doesn't exist. two genres that are soooooo different cannot collide as one because of what is called a build and a break. if u really look back, u'll find that what u call "tech-trance" is merely techno, and most of the mainstream shit today is sadly mislabeled. listen to Jeff Mills - The Bells, which is a detroit techno song which was created before trance even emerged. and for u tiesto fans who claim traffic is a tech-trance song, i'd hate to break it to u that his song was sampled from Sean Deason - Psykofuk >>> Techno!!!

I'll give u that picotto did play some trance in his day, but tracks like Komodo aren't even played by him anymore. Now that Picotto is doing b2b sets with Liebeing this summer in Ibiza, be sure to find that he'll play nothing other than pure techno

trance was appreciated by me for a different reason which died off a while ago. Songs like Requim for a Dream or Seven Cities were great, but now the new suff has just become that commercial cheese. And to even mention the two genres together is like comparing apples and oranges.

And whoever mention Dumonde as Tech-Trance >>>> LMFAO!!!!!!


you really are a fucking stupid twat arent you.

go listen to :

Ton TB - Dream Machine (Marco V Remix)
The Freak - Rising Angel
Neves - Turbulance (Tribal Tech Mix)
Sam Sharp - Twisted
Midor & Six4Eight - No Mans Land

then come back to me and tell me wot genre that is.


Posted by Faj27 on May-22-2004 19:56:

Behold, my arse.

quote:
Originally posted by DRM
you really are a fucking stupid twat arent you.

go listen to :

Ton TB - Dream Machine (Marco V Remix)
The Freak - Rising Angel
Neves - Turbulance (Tribal Tech Mix)
Sam Sharp - Twisted
Midor & Six4Eight - No Mans Land

then come back to me and tell me wot genre that is.


wow, thanx for really explaining urself

first of all, the song is sam sharp - twister, not twisted, but who gives a fuck, its a horrible song

for a track to be labeled as tech-trance, it should embody elements of both trance and techno. i actually took a listen to every one of these songs, and haven't heard any elements of techno in them. may u please identify what these five shitty songs have anything to do with techno?? cause i am really puzzled.

if u like trance, thats fine, i could care less. but there is no reason to claim it to having affiliation with techno. its simply not the same, at all

listen to anything by kay d smith, dj rush, chris liebing, dj preach or carl cox...thats techno. just cause a techno song has a melody, doesn't mean its now trance.

go to discogs and proclaim ur little trance nation fever, u'll get eaten alive

peace


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on May-22-2004 20:02:


Posted by sleepydragon on May-22-2004 20:08:

quote:
Originally posted by kaymak
Eh????, then what would u call Tiesto, flight 643, traffic.....
Hemmstock and Jennings, crimson soil "John O Callaghan mix".....etc


Their not Trance.... Their not Techo, hence the genre of tech-trance


waht? flight 643 and traffic r not tech-trance
this thread is stupid anyway delete it


Posted by noikeee on May-22-2004 20:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Faj27
wow, thanx for really explaining urself

first of all, the song is sam sharp - twister, not twisted, but who gives a fuck, its a horrible song

for a track to be labeled as tech-trance, it should embody elements of both trance and techno. i actually took a listen to every one of these songs, and haven't heard any elements of techno in them. may u please identify what these five shitty songs have anything to do with techno?? cause i am really puzzled.

if u like trance, thats fine, i could care less. but there is no reason to claim it to having affiliation with techno. its simply not the same, at all

listen to anything by kay d smith, dj rush, chris liebing, dj preach or carl cox...thats techno. just cause a techno song has a melody, doesn't mean its now trance.

go to discogs and proclaim ur little trance nation fever, u'll get eaten alive

peace


yep, twister is a good example of what i was talking about.. people call it tech-trance but it barely has techno elements. and yep it's pretty crap.

but you say that there is no possible cross between trance and techno and there will not be ever. what about the olivier lieb stuff? hell, even half of what picotto has been playing lately has loads of trancy elements, it might be closer to techno but you can't deny it's past the border.


Posted by Torley Wong on May-22-2004 20:32:

Tech-trance can be an example of "Emperor's New Clothes" -- for what it's worth, it's see-through. This is not to say the music is bad at ALL, it's simply to say that people put more stake in the term than in the music... and by the way, can't percentages applied? as in "25% PURE TECH-TRANCE, FRESHLY BREWED"? Kidding.

A track can be obliquely inspired by the most purist, elitist minimal techno and still sound nothing like it -- but in the artist's mind, the influence and the overwhelming shadow is still there.

"Tech-house"? WHAT? "Tech-trance-house"? HUH?!? Oh yeah, don't forget trance is just house with arpeggios and gate effects at a faster BPM. KIDDING. (Somewhat)

Will someone please explain to me why Layo & Bushwacka's "Love Song" is considered "tech-house"? It sounds more rootsy gospelly stuff to me because of the vocals (hey Moby!), and maybe a little Devo-ish too for obvious reasons. Thanks.

If you want to cop out and make easy tech-trance, it's easy peasy squeezy:

-take one of Jeff Mills' tracks or Richie Hawtin's
-add a Ferry Corsten or PvD melody on top
-mix

Fair enough, right?

KIDDING (sort of)


Posted by Ian on May-22-2004 20:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Faj27
wow, thanx for really explaining urself

first of all, the song is sam sharp - twister, not twisted, but who gives a fuck, its a horrible song

for a track to be labeled as tech-trance, it should embody elements of both trance and techno. i actually took a listen to every one of these songs, and haven't heard any elements of techno in them. may u please identify what these five shitty songs have anything to do with techno?? cause i am really puzzled.

if u like trance, thats fine, i could care less. but there is no reason to claim it to having affiliation with techno. its simply not the same, at all

listen to anything by kay d smith, dj rush, chris liebing, dj preach or carl cox...thats techno. just cause a techno song has a melody, doesn't mean its now trance.

go to discogs and proclaim ur little trance nation fever, u'll get eaten alive

peace


he said tech-trance, not techno. Techno isn't just full of elitists, theres people who love both techno & trance like myself. Whatever your personal thoughts, real tech trance, stuff by Oliver Lieb, Marco V etc takes elements from both genres, forget the stuff by tiesto (minus traffic which is barely tech-trance)

And you'll find that someone like Mauro (in his new style too, the alchemy uk label etc) is the techno dj most trance fans goto first. We're not saying liebing or takkyu or dave clarke or hawtin or any other techno dj of any quality is worse or better, just trying to show u that tech-trance does exist, whether you like it or not.

And the people at discogs are the same elitist house loving ****s you find at many dark dirty places, whilst ppl here like many genres, they just like to argue with it for no good reason.


edit - oops fucked things up - dont watch tv and type


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