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Expensive 19" Mixers

Given that price is not an issue...OK under or around $1200 what is the best all around 19" mixer. DJM3000 right?

Features I would want:
-Seperate subwoofer output
-3 band kill switches
-preferably NO BPM unit (even though the 3000 has it)
-XLR outputs
-4 channels (+mic input = 5 channel)

I currently have the Behringer DJX700, but I've only had it for a few months and am already getting it serviced. I'm gonna service it and sell it to my friend for cheap. Their VMX-1000 has all the features I want, but I just dont trust it. The quality just isnt there, even though the price is great, I saw it for 180 on pssl.com

Anyway, let me know what you think!

hmm, i was thinkin about buyin the djm 3000. look at the tascam x-9 instead if you want effects. it comes with the rackmount adapters if you need it to be 19". personally i will have my xone :92 in a few weeks

Yeah that mixer looks mad comfortable, kinda like my 700, except much better quality. Im trying to stick this in a rack tho, so its gotta take up a lot less units than that one does.

lmao @ comparing a DJX700 to a Xone:92. That's gotta be blasphemy

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Originally posted by Rememberence_ lmao @ comparing a DJX700 to a Xone:92. That's gotta be blasphemy

i think he may have been talking about the x-9, at least i hope he was...

there is no comparison, the A&H is at the totally opposite end of the spectrum from the behringer

yeah i was talking about the x-9

I've had the djm-3000 for soon 4 months and I couldnt be happier with it. The effects are great and really adds a new dimension to mixing. Same goes for the beat effects (which differs it from the djm-600). It really adds unlimited creativity to your mix. However, the djm-3000 is based on rather old technology now and if I were you I'd look at the denon x-1500 though its not a 19". As far as 19" goes I'd say the very best one out there is the A&H V6, but at 4000USD it's in its own league. I know rane make some 19" club mixers but I'm not too familiar with them. Also Carl cox is realising his own signature mixer for vestex, the PMC-CX which seems to become one bad boy, but again I dont know much about it. Another quality 19" mixer would be the vestax R1 but as with the V6, this one also carries an extreme price tag at 2000pounds.
Alright, hope this gave a little broader perspektive on 19" mixers

Peace, Dj Dissent

ps. my first post..yay!

congrats on no longer being a TA virgin!

Glad to hear you are happy with the 3000. When you say that it is built on old technology, what specifically are you referring to?

Thanks,
J

im not big on bells and whistles. Rane MP2016, feel, quality, sound quality.

djm 3000 is a good mixer, (pretty much the same thing as djm 500 imo) but i'd get allen & heath xone 62 or 92 with rack ears if i had 1200 bucks to blow... you could prolly pick a 62 up on ebay for about that much, dunno about 92s...

first club i spun at had a djm3000. seemed good quality enough, except i couldn't figure out how to use the damn effects! lol

Doesn't the DJM-3000 have better sound quality than the 500? If not, the mixer is really a rip off!

why would you want a seperate subwoofer output?
If your sub is active, and has the parameters, you can feed it full-range sound and it filters the low-end for you. Otherwise, you could also get a cheap crossover.

dont i need some kind of mono output then?

The way im doing it now:

The sub feeds off of the output of the left or right speaker as my mixer doesnt have any mono output.

No matter which way I do it with this mixer, im only getting the one side of the music. I dont think anyone notices, but i know its there.

eh...and explain to me this crossover business, i have no idea how that works, people keep saying it, and i understand vaguely the principles behind it, but i never have the idea to read up on it

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Originally posted by Spuds6s Glad to hear you are happy with the 3000. When you say that it is built on old technology, what specifically are you referring to? J

Its just that the djm-3000 is based on the djm-600..a mixer which was released back in 1999. It would be a lie not to say that new effekt mixers such as the denon x1500 are superior to the djm series in many ways. However, this is not to say that the djm-600 and -3000 are primitive equipment..far from it. It has rocked the club world for years and the creative potential it carries should satisfy anyone. I just think that djm-600 era is over (being mainly replaced by the the xone 62). But i'm sure Pioneer are already planning a new industry standard..I mean...how sweet wouldnt a club version of the djm-909 be?

peace, Dj Dissent

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Originally posted by Dj Dissent I just think that djm-600 era is over (being mainly replaced by the the xone 62).

i would disagree, some clubs go for the xone64, but i think many clubs will keep the 600's for a while yet, as the xone faders are just not up to it with regard to having different styles of dj's playing there on different nights. i know i couldn't play a set exactly how i wanted on a xone64 simply because the x-fader is dogshite and the channels faders are a stupid design which make it very hard to cut and scratch with them.. and most clubs have other genre's going on at different nights in the week. the djm600 is a fantastic all-round effect mixer for use with many different styles and techniques.

back on topic: the djm3000 is fantastic, great layout and packed with features. i have heard good things about the tascam x9 too, but i have no experience in using one.

I hadnt heard much about denon mixers. I own a dual cd player by denon and its great. I know their cd players are awesome, but I dont hear anyone ravin about the mixers. Ill have to look into them more, because at first glance, I have to admit they are pretty. and they match my cd decks

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Originally posted by tu_face i know i couldn't play a set exactly how i wanted on a xone64 simply because the x-fader is dogshite and the channels faders are a stupid design which make it very hard to cut and scratch with them.. and most clubs have other genre's going on at different nights in the week.

You've got a point there and the xone: 62 has indded gotten critized for this. However, with the release of xone:92, A&H has tried to solve this and from what i've read there's only a 2mm lag at the sharpest setting. But with a price tag at over twice that of the djm-600 its not a mixer that one would have for the bedroom. The djm-600 has an advatage here as it is one of the most popular bedroom mixers for serious Djs and so theres always a relief when you know the club got the same mixer installed. Its also fair to say that the djm-600 is superior to the denon x1500 in that it has stood the test of time and has a solid reputation.
But also being a realist, the djm-600 cannot remain at top forever. Sure its got the effects which the xone lacks, but what I've seen become more common now is thats clubs add a seperate effekt unit next to xone so that you get both the sound quality whilst also allowing for creative control.
Personally, I love my djm-3000 and it will be a long time before I buy a new mixer.

Peace, Dj Dissent

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Originally posted by Spuds6s dont i need some kind of mono output then? The way im doing it now: The sub feeds off of the output of the left or right speaker as my mixer doesnt have any mono output. No matter which way I do it with this mixer, im only getting the one side of the music. I dont think anyone notices, but i know its there. eh...and explain to me this crossover business, i have no idea how that works, people keep saying it, and i understand vaguely the principles behind it, but i never have the idea to read up on it

By reading that I assume your sub only has 1 single input, right?... so in that case you could feed your speakers/monitors your mixer's main output, and use your mixer's secondary main output Left to feed a mono line to your sub. Then, when you adjust the main output on your mixer, the monitors are affected and you have independent subwoofer control via your secondary main adjust.

A crossover is a unit the manages frequency ranges. You'd have to get a simpler and cheaper one if it's for home use, because the pro-units are far too costly to need one in a home setup. THe crossover would be fed ALL of your signal from your mixer's main output. The crossover would then feed outputs to your monitors and sub individually. It also allows you to select the range of bass frequencies to send to the sub, and the range to send to your monitors. Basically, it's like strapping an EQ in the line before each speaker, to make it simply understood.

Why dont you save up a couple more hundred dollars and get the Rane MP44? With DJ Tranz's discount at djmart.com, you could probably get it within the $1300-1400 mark, not including shipping.

Whats good with the mp44? What benefits does it have over the 3000?

i owned a 3000...i aslo put i knob kit on it...it seemed like a toy...didn't like it

outta 10


sound quality: 7

build: 6

value for the money :3

just MO

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Originally posted by BeatSMiTH Doesn't the DJM-3000 have better sound quality than the 500? If not, the mixer is really a rip off!

no, the 3000 is basically a more spread out, 19" version of the 500. internal components are the same.

the 600 has the sampler that the 500 and 3000 do not. i have spun on all 3 pioneer mixers and the sound quality seems the same to me: decent, but far from great.

the rane 2016 is cool and all, but you still have to buy the EQ kit for it, making it about a $2000 mixer. and alot of people dont like the rotary style. but this is the EXACT mixer that is in the DJ booth at club space in Miami.

ive HEAVILY researched almost every DJ mixer on the market and its Allen & Heath xone :92 for me.

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Originally posted by Vero ive HEAVILY researched almost every DJ mixer on the market and its Allen & Heath xone :92 for me.

i'm not try to be a j/o so don't take me the wrong way....research doesn't count for anything......its having hands on time on a mixer to draw a conclusion if its right for u.....i have owned a 92/rotary..its is a great mixer....don't get me wrong....i don't think its a good value for the buck....unless your gonna use the midi or u like an adjustable crossfader....your better off with the 62....

i cannot see why you compare the 3000 to the 500, since it's based on the 600. the eq's are the same from the 600, beat matched effects, 2 channels on x-fader, you can still play the other two on the channel faders. All things the 500 didn't have. And it usually sells for the same price as the 500.
The 600 has the samples that the 3000 does not, and that is why you should be able to get the 3000 considerably cheaper. it also has x-fader based effects, but i cannot say i've used them in the 18 months i've had the 3000.

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