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Why does everyone ooooh and aaaaah over Japanese cars?

With the exception of a few (Mazda 787B, RX-7 (1994) and perhaps the modified celica engine going into the 2005 Lotus Elise 190), I can't stand them. Someone please explain the attraction to me?

Note: Current cars; 2001 BMW M5, 2003 BMW MINI CooperS, 1999 Expedition Eddie Bauer Edition, contemplating 1985 BMW M6 (european import)...

For $33k someone convince me not to get the M6 please!

There's a new BMW comming out soon...M1 or 1 or something with one...it's a smaller hatchback kinda version really cool lookin'

And by the way I don't like Japanese car's either but they have the most quality and durability - aka long lasting with much fewer repairs and maintenance.

Ya the 1 series should be out 2005-6 it's a cute little hatchback. Reliability... I dunno, one of my cousins has a 1990-1 750 that's still running. Mind you he lives in LA where the weather doesn't violate your car!

I remember hearing, the M5 engine is basically going into the M3, the M5 is getting a new bigger engine, and the new M2 is getting the M3 engine.

I highly doubt it lol. Actually I know that won't happen. The 2005 M5 is getting a new drivetrain 5.0L V10 500+ hp. The M3 is keeping the 3.2L I6 333hp.

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Originally posted by PartyHarlequin I highly doubt it lol. Actually I know that won't happen. The 2005 M5 is getting a new drivetrain 5.0L V10 500+ hp. The M3 is keeping the 3.2L I6 333hp.

I swear I read in some magazine the M3 was going upto 400HP.

though I could very easily be mistaken

can't believe the Z8 is dead though.

Re: Why does everyone ooooh and aaaaah over Japanese cars?

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Originally posted by PartyHarlequin With the exception of a few (Mazda 787B, RX-7 (1994) and perhaps the modified celica engine going into the 2005 Lotus Elise 190), I can't stand them. Someone please explain the attraction to me? Note: Current cars; 2001 BMW M5, 2003 BMW MINI CooperS, 1999 Expedition Eddie Bauer Edition, contemplating 1985 BMW M6 (european import)... For $33k someone convince me not to get the M6 please!

BMW is a good performance car, but falls apart quite quickly starting with suspension then to electronics, it's a perfomance car but not reliable and expensive to repair, japanese cars have high performance and are reliable at the same time, as for your question, well could be the fact that the japanses cars perform better, look better, more reliable, which most of the time is a prefrence anyway, if someone likes a car they don't care if it breaks often.

I like Japanese cars because of the low maintenance, good fuel economy, reliability and high resale value. I have an Acura 1.6EL and even though its a family sedan it's a pleasure to drive, especially when that v-tech engine kicks in.

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Originally posted by Tordan I like Japanese cars because of the low maintenance, good fuel economy, reliability and high resale value. I have an Acura 1.6EL and even though its a family sedan it's a pleasure to drive, especially when that v-tech engine kicks in.

That iV-TECH at about 6000RPM almost feels like a turbo! ... it's great.

But what about the total package? Interior finish, attention to detail, driver oriented dashes, handsfree everything, BMW M POWER! And the fact that the M5 is four thousand pounds and still puts almost any stock japanese car to shame! (And is way more reliable than any modified Japanese car that can beat it!)

Actually is there a stock Japanese 4 door sedan that can take the M5 on the track?

Most def interior in the Japanese cars is lacking big time...compared to the Europeans...in the north american cars the interior looks like it's been designed and constructed by a 3 year old

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Originally posted by starsearcher ...in the north american cars the interior looks like it's been designed and constructed by a 3 year old

muhahaha... ya the interior is just absolute brute!!

All i have to say:



*droooool

-+Aron

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Originally posted by Tordan I like Japanese cars because of the low maintenance, good fuel economy, reliability and high resale value. I have an Acura 1.6EL and even though its a family sedan it's a pleasure to drive, especially when that v-tech engine kicks in.

I drive a Honda Civic Si and I love how good on gas it is. I've been driving Hondas for a long time now and have never had any major problem with any of them...except for when I crashed one

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Originally posted by starsearcher in the north american cars the interior looks like it's been designed and constructed by a 3 year old

heheh thats the point, actually i prefer that because whichever american car i might be driving, everything is at the same place and is standard. Plus all I need can be accessed with one hand only, the other is holding that coke or big mac

big buttons for fat fingers

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Originally posted by PartyHarlequin But what about the total package? Interior finish, attention to detail, driver oriented dashes, handsfree everything, BMW M POWER! And the fact that the M5 is four thousand pounds and still puts almost any stock japanese car to shame! (And is way more reliable than any modified Japanese car that can beat it!) Actually is there a stock Japanese 4 door sedan that can take the M5 on the track?

sounds like you own one, or did, well BMW when it comes to reliability are uber crap, ball joints on the front suspension go around 40,000km(pythetic) now having that happen to two models is not a coninsidance, windows buttons tend not to work everytime, plus other electronics, I never owned a bmw and as much as i like them i would never cause they waste of money, unless you have the money like my uncle who buys them brand new. Mercedez is quite reliable, but bmw is junk, as for M5 if you compare to any japanese car that is in the same class, then the japanse car will put the m5 to shame lol, even the little 6 speed acuras can take that out, unless like my uncle you buys an X5 and add nitro lol . Btw, owe a swedish car Volvo and I fix and know quite a lot about cars, so don't tell everyone BMW are more reliable, cause it's funny to those who know, BMW have superb handling that's one thing, but japanese are just as good though

Cheers

I'd say it's because they're simply a more attractive alternative to the domestics in terms of looks and reliability, especially for those consumers who can't afford a European import..

So while I'd love to be getting a Mercedes Kompressor or BMW, chances are my next car is going to used Mazda or Honda

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Originally posted by PartyHarlequin With the exception of a few (Mazda 787B, RX-7 (1994) and perhaps the modified celica engine going into the 2005 Lotus Elise 190), I can't stand them. Someone please explain the attraction to me? Note: Current cars; 2001 BMW M5, 2003 BMW MINI CooperS, 1999 Expedition Eddie Bauer Edition, contemplating 1985 BMW M6 (european import)... For $33k someone convince me not to get the M6 please!

resale value and reliability...that's about it.

an '85? nah...you're throwing away 20 years of safety and innovation for a car that, although fun, will cost a fortune to maintain with scarce parts, I would guess?

I can't stand most Asian imports...except Subaru who makes some great cars (I'd kill for an STi). Most asian imports (re: Honda) have always been about hp with no torque with cheap interiors. That's great for the track and racing, but make for *boring* daily drivers. I'll take a GTi 1.8T and it's oodles of low-mid end torque over some lame RSX-S or Type R any day. The Civic Nation can kiss my ass

If you're buying an older car...I take it your mechanically competent. Why not a 1g or 2g DSM? For half of your 33k, you can pick up a decent AWD 1g for very little and turn it into a 12-second all-season beast

or drop that 33k on a new WRX and just enjoy! I'm all about small displacent turbo engines

Re: Why does everyone ooooh and aaaaah over Japanese cars?

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Originally posted by PartyHarlequin With the exception of a few (Mazda 787B, RX-7 (1994) and perhaps the modified celica engine going into the 2005 Lotus Elise 190), I can't stand them. Someone please explain the attraction to me? Note: Current cars; 2001 BMW M5, 2003 BMW MINI CooperS, 1999 Expedition Eddie Bauer Edition, contemplating 1985 BMW M6 (european import)... For $33k someone convince me not to get the M6 please!

Well originally it came from all the fobs that make it their second job to rice up their cars, and guess what, japanese cars have the most stuff you can do to the because theres tonnes of kits and mods available for them, far more than for european or american cars. A friend of mine almost ejaculates when he talks about what he could do with a late 80s civic hatchback hes so into it.

So anyway, it spread from there.

It's what the cool kids do guy.

PS - Civic Nation. lol i almost forgot about that. And yeah Id also go with the subaru wrx like the guy said, well if you can get over how ugly it looks.

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Originally posted by MarkT I'll take a GTi 1.8T and it's oodles of low-mid end torque over some lame RSX-S or Type R any day.

I'll take a Honda over a VW any day. The lame RSX-S will out-do any 1.8T and is a hell of a lot more fun to drive.

<----- Only buys FoMoCo products.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker <----- Only buys FoMoCo products.

Haven't rented too many Fords, but I have rented tons of GM's and I think they all stink personally. I hate them, and when I get home, I LOVE my car.

<--- driving a crap ass monte carlo this week and next week.

I love japanese cars ... and I love Europeon cars too.

Can't stand cars that are made in the US of A.

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Originally posted by tw1tch I'll take a Honda over a VW any day. The lame RSX-S will out-do any 1.8T and is a hell of a lot more fun to drive.

I can see we're on opposite ends of the spectrum in our car philosophies...it's all good...it's why Honda sells so many cars...people look at hp #s and stock 0-60 and go from there. I'll never understand the Honda image except for hard-core enthusiasts who know an old Civic can be made into a beast for relatively little money. For every Civic I respect, I see 30 I laugh at.

The only Honda I'd *ever* consider driving is an S2000...sweet car...but for that $$$ I could name a half-dozen other cars I'd rather drive.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker <----- Only buys FoMoCo products.

until the Talon I last drove, me too...A-Plan has it's benefits I had fun with a lightly modified Focus ZTS for a couple of years...

Regardless of everything else, I love the old M6 landshark look. Plus the 286hp M88 3.5L I6 under the hood is practically identical to the M1 engine (which means a little work and you're looking at well over 500hp ). It's a 4 seater GT and I'm a huge fan of nicely done interiors. For me I need a total package, and interior styling/comfort/finish/coolness are important to me.


Note: I also love BMWs, I've never had almost any complaints with any of the ones I've driven owned in the past. Mind you a late model 850CSi is starting to look very appealing. Gah choices...

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