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Read This!... Technics Model Misconceptions fixed!!!!!
I've noticed far too many time how people are not understanding the difference between the Technics SL12xx model turntables available... so I have outlined them here for you.
These are in order from oldest to newest. If I've missed any, please post the details, and I'll edit accordingly.
Images coming soon
SL-1200 MKII (MK2)
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-comes in silver/grey and black -Quartz Synthesis Direct Drive Turntable -Total quartz locked continuous pitch adjustment up to 8% -Precision molded aluminum diecast cabinet and heavy rubber base -Unwavering quartz DD accuracy: wow & flutter 0.01%, rumble -78 dB (DINB) -high torque for quick start-ups -Highly sensitive low-mass tonearm with gimbal suspension -about $500 USD new |
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-roughly the same features as the 1200 MKII -not the same as the M3D -Asian/Japan release exclusive -gold plated phono leads (connectors) -comes in black -about $700 USD new (apparently) |
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-roughly the same features as the 1200 MKIII -not the same as the M3D -Asian/Japan release exclusive -gold plated phono leads (connectors) -comes in black -78 RPM speed selector -titanium tonearm -female RCA connectors and ground knob -about $650 USD new (apparently) |
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-comes in silver/grey and black -similar features as the M3D, but without the pitch reset -Quartz Synthesis Direct Drive Turntable -Total quartz locked continuous pitch adjustment up to 8% -Precision molded aluminum diecast cabinet and heavy rubber base -Unwavering quartz DD accuracy: wow & flutter 0.01%, rumble -78 dB (DINB) -high torque for quick start-ups -Highly sensitive low-mass tonearm with gimbal suspension -about $500 USD new |
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-pretty much the same features as the 1200 MKII.. -comes in silver/grey -integral rotor-platter DD (Direct-Drive) motor -Unwavering quartz DD accuracy: wow & flutter 0.01% WRMS, rumble -78dB (DIN B) -high torque for quick start-ups -Total quartz locked continuous pitch adjustment up to +-8%. -pitch reset button -Head shell stand on the cabinet -Disc slip mat equipped -Precision molded aluminum diecast cabinet and heavy rubber base material -Highly sensitive low-mass tonearm with gimbal suspension -Helicoid tonearm height adjustment -Pop-up stylus illumination -about $500 USD new -discontinued |
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-comes in black and maybe silver/grey -ROUGHLY the same features as the MKII/M3D.. -Long-Life Stylus Illumination -Up-graded Arm Weight Setting -Brake Speed Control -Max. 6g Anti-Skating Weight -pitch reset putton -about $500 USD new |
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-comes in black -Long-Life Stylus Illumination -Up-graded Arm Weight Setting -Brake Speed Control -Max. 6g Anti-Skating Weight -Diecast cabinet and heavy rubber base material -High torque motor -Highly sensitive low-mass tone arm with gimbaled suspension -Includes hinge-free removable dustcover -pitch reset button -120 Volt Only -Quartz lock -about $500 USD new |
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-comes in shiny, glittery black with silver tone-arm -includes silver headshell -Total quartz locked continuous pitch adjustment +/-8% and +/-16% -Precision moulded aluminium diecast cabinet and heavy rubber base material -Unwavering quartz Direct Drive accuracy: wow and flutter 0,01% WRNMS, rumble -78dB (DIN B) -high torque (1.5Kg/m) for quick start-ups -Highly sensitive low mass tone-arm with gimbal suspension/helicoid tonearm height adjustment -Pitch reset button -Recessed on/off switch -Headshell stand on the cabinet -Detachable lid -Slip mat included -Brake Speed Control. -Stylus Kick Cancel and Anti-Skip. -Arm-end Scale for Quick Weight Setting. -High Grade Audio Cable in Arm. -Max. 6g Anti-Skating Weight. -Computerised Pitch control. -8/16% Selectable Button with Blue Back-lit Scale. -Exchangeable Pitch Control for easy replacement when needed. -LCD lighting for longer life. -about $600-$700 USD new |
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-same features as the 1210 M5G -plated/dressed in 24karat gold -plaque mounted on the deck which reads "Limited Edition, Product Certificate No._____________". -only 3000 models made -about $800-$900 USD new |
Put this as a sticky, NOW... 
the m3d picture is correctly mislabeled within the picutre you may wanna link another one : )
there are a couple that you left out, the 1200 mk3 and the 1200 mk4
i've never seen either one of them but they are interesting none the less
1200 mk2 was also available in black if you look hard enough (yes the 1200- NOT the 1210). Not may about tho.
1200 also weighs more than a 1210- but as you havent listen any weights its not really an issue
so basically, there is fuck all difference between them all, except the posh titanium tone-arm (just an excuse to charge more) some have quartz lock buttons, and the mk5g (the most overpriced of them all) has +/- 16%.
how about that for 20 years of engineering 
I bet you they still use the same machinery and tools that they used in 1970 to make these, it prob cost them nothing to produce one, and they prob stick a markup of 1000% on them. The only reason they get away with it is because they are the "standard"... If I own a company one day, I hope to have a product that cost me nothing to make add 1000% and sell it cause it'll be the standard.
I still can't believe that there isn't another tt concidered worthwhile just because one has been the standard for 30 years...
Nah I'm not gonna drive that shit ferrari F550... my Ford model T is the standard.
maybe I'm just pissed cause I can't afford techs 
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| Originally posted by tu_face so basically, there is fuck all difference between them all, except the posh titanium tone-arm (just an excuse to charge more) some have quartz lock buttons, and the mk5g (the most overpriced of them all) has +/- 16%. how about that for 20 years of engineering |
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| Originally posted by Gunyouken I bet you they still use the same machinery and tools that they used in 1970 to make these, it prob cost them nothing to produce one, and they prob stick a markup of 1000% on them. The only reason they get away with it is because they are the "standard"... If I own a company one day, I hope to have a product that cost me nothing to make add 1000% and sell it cause it'll be the standard. I still can't believe that there isn't another tt concidered worthwhile just because one has been the standard for 30 years... Nah I'm not gonna drive that shit ferrari F550... my Ford model T is the standard. maybe I'm just pissed cause I can't afford techs |
Like said before, this needs to be a STICKY.
Oh and I can vouch for what Freak said about the colour decks, I got a SL1200MK2 (yes a 1200) and its black.
definitly sticky this.
Nice Job SgtFoo. Its about time someone did this!
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| Originally posted by Prodigy Child Like said before, this needs to be a STICKY. Oh and I can vouch for what Freak said about the colour decks, I got a SL1200MK2 (yes a 1200) and its black. |
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| Originally posted by Freak 1200 mk2 was also available in black if you look hard enough (yes the 1200- NOT the 1210). |
i have two of them, not very hard to find at all
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| Originally posted by SgtFoo I made this thread so ppl wouldn't confuse the model names.. *ahem*... are youtalking about the m5g or the mk5?? |
i have got the "SL1200MK5" and they are black ... i bought mine in japan tho .. . can take pictures of them too ... cheers...
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| Originally posted by tu_face thats like picking a snot for missing the - in pdx-2000 the m5g its still the "mark 5 G" though sorry guys, i dont think that this is cause for sticky... |
its the technics mark 5 (a different word for "version"), with an extra pitch range setting (which is 'computerised', but this actually makes no real working difference at all), and a spangly finish. well worth $150 . so forgive me for adding an extra k here and there, they are all pretty much the same deck anyway
edit: just noticed, in your original post, you say that the m5g has 1.5kg/cm of torque. i think you mean metres, 1.5kg/cm would be ridiculous! although i have to disagree with the "very high" bit... its not very high when compared to other high-end turntables. the pdx-2000 has 2kg/m, and the numark ttx-1 has somewhere around 4kg/m
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| Originally posted by tu_face its the technics mark 5 (a different word for "version"), with an extra pitch range setting (which is 'computerised', but this actually makes no real working difference at all), and a spangly finish. well worth $150 . so forgive me for adding an extra k here and there, they are all pretty much the same deck anyway |
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edit: just noticed, in your original post, you say that the m5g has 1.5kg/cm of torque. i think you mean metres, 1.5kg/cm would be ridiculous! although i have to disagree with the "very high" bit... its not very high when compared to other high-end turntables. the pdx-2000 has 2kg/m, and the numark ttx-1 has somewhere around 4kg/m |
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| Originally posted by SgtFoo I'm not out to piss people off about particular model prices and differences... technics has already done that |
While we're on the subject of fixing misconceptions, could someone please tell me what the "pitch reset" button does? I've seen two or three completely different explanations in this forum.
Thanks.
it resets the pitch by activating the quartz lock...right?
tech decided to take out indentation at 0% pitch when they started making the m3d becuase it feels better to mix on for alot of people... but becuase of this, theres no good way of telling if you are exactly at zero... so they added the button so you can be sure.
i have to say the stanton tables have almost 5kg/m
Firstly good job on this thread i always knew the differences but now i can send people who ask me here when i tell them about all the pointless little differences they have made over the years...
Sorry iam just sour at how they charge so much for the MK5G in comparison to all there other tables... doubleing your pitch is not that much of a great leap technics!
Besides another thing that makes me laugh about technics only djs (anything else is a sin) is when the other brands released decks with digital pitch controls... only for them to say "but digial pitch control is not as accurate i mean look at technics they dont use it" and lets not forget how the other brands released a wide pitch control. Then out comes the MK5G and its a technics revolution!
I wont be at all suprised if technics bring out a deck with more torque anyway then it will be suprising to see what all the people who say "the fuck do you need all that torque for anyway"...
Maybe we should also add "the technics story" about how panasonic invested little to no money in a turntable designed for audiophiles, till they found out that they hated them and then one day they were saved by a Grandmaster who realised his dream... etc
Anyway i love mixing on techs so iam not at all against them or any other table... i just look further than them I am a big fan of techs but i also love vestax tables (cept the look) and i own a pair of st.150's
as far as torque goes... does it really matter if you have a slipmat? as long as it has enough torque to overcome the friction of the slipmat, then i woudlnt think it matters.
i do agree that there are alot of other choices out there. personally, i havent played with all of them, but at the surface, the build quality and weight of tech platters seem so much better. genearlly when i breeze through the guitar center or whatver, and feel the stantons and numarks, they just feel like plastic. i think in the long run, it makes a big difference.
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