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Posted by djdustx on Aug-01-2004 19:03:

Lightbulb Terrorist Threat Alert in US of A

Surprise Surprise

Is this a conspiracy from Bush?

To maybe show himself as a great defender and to boost his election votes?

Every since I read a headline saying Osama bin Laden was an ex employee of the US government...

i had a feeling that Al-Quehida isnt an independent organization.

Also...dont these attacks seem to come at convienant times?

Whats ur opinion?

ty

Sebastiano


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-01-2004 19:10:

This image sums up all i have to say about the supposed war on terror and it's true objective.



Shaking Hands: Iraqi President Saddam Hussein greets Donald Rumsfeld, then special envoy of President Ronald Reagan, in Baghdad on December 20, 1983.


Posted by drgoodvibe on Aug-01-2004 19:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
This image sums up all i have to say about the supposed war on terror and it's true objective.



Shaking Hands: Iraqi President Saddam Hussein greets Donald Rumsfeld, then special envoy of President Ronald Reagan, in Baghdad on December 20, 1983.



aha, yep.. that pretty much sums it all up. They shook hands - while 1 million Iranians were killed, using chemical weapons/and other means


Posted by djdustx on Aug-01-2004 19:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
This image sums up all i have to say about the supposed war on terror and it's true objective.



Shaking Hands: Iraqi President Saddam Hussein greets Donald Rumsfeld, then special envoy of President Ronald Reagan, in Baghdad on December 20, 1983.


This basterd killed his own people as well...and he considers himself a great leader?

What needs to happen to him is one of the children who's family he killed...or disfigured his body should rip off his right testicle and shove down his throat.

Also all seeds of this mans penis must be destroyed...and the ashes should be sent to the sun.

"i want to rip that bitches vagina off" quote of Saddams daughter in regards to a teacher she doesnt not like. daddy's angel

Ty

Sebastiano

P.S. Jayx1 n drgoodvibe awesome replys


Posted by Kytracid on Aug-01-2004 19:26:

Everytime that moron, Bush chokes on a dounut they issue a terrorist threat to cover up the fact that the commander in chief is a friggin retard. The timing of these alerts are definately significant, but then again, for a nation that loves to keep its citizens on a high state of alert everytime a brown guy with a suspious bulge boards a plane, i'm hardly suprised.

It's probably blow over, like most of these alerts usually do...or maybe it won't...fact is, it's become a norm of the US Government to break the tedium of normal life by annoncing the presence of some foreign threat, just to give US voters something additional to think about. It's about time the rest of us stopped caring...or maybe that might be a mistake too. Hmmm, hasn't it been like 6 months since the US invaded a sovereign country ?


Posted by St_Andrew on Aug-01-2004 19:47:

war on terror is a joke and is fought in the wrong way. tho i don't believe that bush has anything to do with al quaeda, but of course he uses it to his own advantage.


Posted by Photon_Trance on Aug-01-2004 20:26:

Bush sucks
I'm sad for the people who Died in the 911 bombings but Americans stick there nose in everyone�s business it's no wonder why there's so much terrorist attacks on US


Posted by LKD on Aug-01-2004 20:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Kytracid
Everytime that moron, Bush chokes on a dounut...


u mean pretzel?....lol


Posted by Photon_Trance on Aug-01-2004 20:39:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee
u mean pretzel?....lol


LOL LOL LOL
I complitly forgot he did that


Posted by Fir3start3r on Aug-01-2004 20:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
This image sums up all i have to say about the supposed war on terror and it's true objective.



Shaking Hands: Iraqi President Saddam Hussein greets Donald Rumsfeld, then special envoy of President Ronald Reagan, in Baghdad on December 20, 1983.


While your comment is convenient for the present arguement, we must remember what was happening at that time the photo was taken.
Iraq was in an 8 year war with Iran and the U.S. at that time sure as hell wasn't going to let Iran win it.
Iraq was clearly in bed with the U.S. then, there's no denying that; hell everyone knew that, so what's the point of the picture again?


Posted by Kytracid on Aug-01-2004 21:15:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee
u mean pretzel?....lol


Give him time, Dubya's more then capable of choking on a donut as well. Good thing he hasn't come to Canada, can you imagine him with a box of Timbits ?


Posted by DigiNut on Aug-01-2004 22:14:

I can't believe how many otherwise intelligent people turn into completely crackpots when the subject of Bush comes up.

Yes, he's not the greatest president of all time.

Yes, his economic policy and public speaking skills suck large.

Yes, he's not the sharpest tool in the shed.

But a nationwide conspiracy? Faking terrorist threats to keep himself in office? Ok yeah, you really do have to be drunk or high to come up with that. One minute you're bashing Bush for how much of a moron he is, the next minute you're telling us he's capable of manipulating the entire American public into believing that foreign allies are really enemies � la 1984.

Which is it, folks? Is he a moron or a diabolical genius? Ya can't have it both ways. He can't be a slobbering ape *and* a criminal mastermind.

It's far more likely that he's just a typical, right-wing, conservative, patriotic American who loves his country but isn't really too bright when it comes to planning a nation, or really when it comes to anything else. I give you that he's pretty dumb, but most of the U.S. presidents have been pretty dumb.

Be careful of the left media that will spin any story to make a Republican look bad. They did the same thing with Reagan. Take a look at Clinton's track record though and you'll see that he was no saint either, and yet he hardly came under any scrutiny by the media. And since the American media didn't pay much attention to him, the Canadian media didn't have any juicy stories to rip off.

It's sad how Canadians need to constantly feed their egos by bashing Bush and the USA. They're not perfect but neither are we, and the fact that we just voted in the same Liberal government that essentially turned us into America Jr. really should bring to light the fact that we don't pay nearly enough attention to our OWN politics.

I don't know if it's an inferiority complex or what, but I'll tell you this: the most refreshing thing about being down in the USA is that Canada suddenly becomes utterly insignificant. They really don't give a flying fuck about what's up north. And yet we here in Canada seem to talk about the USA non-stop. Don't get me wrong, it's definitely a good thing to be educated in international politics but when I say educated I mean educated, not peddling fanatically strong opinions rooted in almost no fact whatsoever.

How many people here have studied the current political situation in the USA from NON-MEDIA sources? Let's hear it. There are new books and papers and essays coming out all the time from people who have done their homework - have any of you bothered to read them or do you just believe everything you hear from Bush-bashers?


Posted by tatgirl on Aug-02-2004 00:17:

Aaron- keep in mind that even if Bushis an idiot, he has HUNDREDS of people working below him that are fully capable of making up false terrorist threats, even if he is not. It's in their best interest to keep him looking good so they keep their positions in office as well.

I'm not sure if there is a conspiracy going on, but if there was, it could easily be planned by others in office. He can't do it all on his own- no president can.


Posted by discojoe on Aug-02-2004 01:10:

Im no conspiracy theorist but i saw a video with extremely convincing evidence that the pentagon attack never even happened. Two hours of hair raisng facts. Far more eye opening than any michael moore film. Just because George Bush is dumb doesnt mean the people behind him are.


Posted by b4k-oz on Aug-02-2004 09:53:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
I can't believe how many otherwise intelligent people turn into completely crackpots when the subject of Bush comes up.

....It's sad how Canadians need to constantly feed their egos by bashing Bush and the USA. They're not perfect but neither are we, and the fact that we just voted in the same Liberal government that essentially turned us into America Jr. really should bring to light the fact that we don't pay nearly enough attention to our OWN politics.



What's with the Canadian Liberal Govt. Bashing?

FYI The Liberals are no where near as America Jr. Watch out because I think that statement makes you sound like a one sided ignorant with no real education in politics.

IMO, I don't think that Bush is a moron or stupid....he's just a very astute son with the dirty power of the (Bush) purse (ahem...in case you still don't get it....it's daddy and friends) controlling and manipulating situations to keep him in power.

I'm surprised at you....if I'm not mistaken tatgirl was raised in USA and I grew up there too....and even I know that politically the only ones to be accepted by the Bush's were always the Conservatives. Hell Mulroney was invited to his daughters wedding in 2000 so WTF are you talking about?


Posted by djdustx on Aug-02-2004 20:24:

diginut...u got served!

Sebastiano


Posted by MarkT on Aug-02-2004 21:00:

Diginut...wow...your naivity is *almost* funny.

As Nat mentioned...it's not just BUSH running the show (if he's even running it at all, lol). There's a whole institution around him that is easily capable of manipulating the public. Do any of us have any access to the terrorist "chatter" and information that the U.S. gov't and various agencies do? NO! So when they issue an alert, the public has little other option than to believe them or not, based on what they tell us. We can't "look it up" ourselves, lol. If you actually think that there is ZERO chance that they'd use that to their advantage, well...I can't help ya then

The LIBERALS are turning us into America Jr.? Are you kidding me??? The Liberal gov't was RIPPED by opposition parties for not joining the "coalition of the willing", for example.

Recent Liberal PMs from Trudeau to Chretien to Martin have done the exact OPPOSITE of what you are suggesting...they have consistently and intentionally maintained a distance from the U.S. on various issues, which is a HUGE reason why I support them.

$50 says that there is a MAJOR threat, if not a foiled attack (or even a successful one) shortly before the election. I'm not suggesting the Bush administration will necessarily orchestrate it (not an attack, but a threat, sure) but they'll jump at the chance to reap the political rewards from it...either that or they "suddenly" capture Osama or someone high up. mark my words


Posted by Fir3start3r on Aug-02-2004 21:17:

I often wonder if we'd be so quick to slap down the Americans if something like that were ever to happen to us.
Oh wait, there were Canadians in those towers as well...


Posted by DigiNut on Aug-02-2004 22:00:

A lot of you really don't get it do you? "America Jr." doesn't have anything whatsoever to do with U.S. relations or U.S. policy. It's a phrase used to describe a country that looks a little bit like the USA, when you ignore the high taxes, low wages, high cost of living, weak currency, pathetic military, and downright ridiculous foreign and immigration policy. It's the sign of a supremely corrupt government and even some of my "Liberal" friends admit that it's starting to look "second-world' lately. You think we're so much better than the USA on the international front? Why don't you look up how many Canadian soldiers have gone on U.N. peacekeeping missions since the 1990s: ZERO.

Why don't you guys do something useful and dig up dirt on the Canadian Liberal government instead. Trust me on this one, there is lots and lots to uncover. Whatever mistakes Bush has made, I haven't heard any news to the effect that Americans feel he has lowered their quality of life.

As per the conspiracy, it doesn't matter whether you're taking about Bush or his "minions". It does not logically follow that someone is lying simply because it would be advantageous for them to lie. We usually look for something called *proof* when making such accusations, but I guess proof is irrelevant in the Michael Moore world of Bush Bashing, right?


Posted by MarkT on Aug-02-2004 22:08:

who's slapping down Americans?

Disliking the Bush administration or American policies does not equal disliking Americans.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Aug-03-2004 00:18:

quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
who's slapping down Americans?

Disliking the Bush administration or American policies does not equal disliking Americans.


You know what I meant....meh...


Posted by discojoe on Aug-03-2004 00:49:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
[FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#99CCEE] You think we're so much better than the USA on the international front? Why don't you look up how many Canadian soldiers have gone on U.N. peacekeeping missions since the 1990s: ZERO.



We have peacekeeping forces Haiti (or did have). We have them in Afganistan too. Thats right now


Posted by b4k-oz on Aug-03-2004 01:04:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
A lot of you really don't get it do you?
...Why don't you guys do something useful and dig up dirt on the Canadian Liberal government instead. Trust me on this one, there is lots and lots to uncover. Whatever mistakes Bush has made, I haven't heard any news to the effect that Americans feel he has lowered their quality of life.

...We usually look for something called *proof* when making such accusations, but I guess proof is irrelevant in the Michael Moore world of Bush Bashing, right?


DigiNut, no disrespect to you but I think you are very mistaken in your Political views my friend.

If you think that the there is lots and lots to uncover of our corrupt Liberal govt. then why don't you enlighten us? IMO you just don't realize yet how corrupt the Conservatives are (or you've chosen to ignore it).

OMG dude, why are you like that? What line of work are you in that has blinded you this way. It can't be politics cuz you'd be more careful of what you say. I've worked in and around govt. offices, for lawyers/crown and in the system....the corruption is two folds. Not one party hasn't got a skelaton in it's closet. I'm not going to bore you with historical facts and data bcuz I've already done this at past and if you want to crossref then go ahead...but seeing how you are....I doubt you'd want to cuz you can only see it one way.

Oh and now I know your full of hot air....re: how Americans feel about Bush, My NYC family is huge and the overall opin is that Bush has in fact lowered the quality of their life.

Seems your very left wing about Canadian and USA Politics. Your a true close minded Conservative. I thought you guys learned from the Mulroney experience by now. But then you sound really young so you prolly didn't even understand politics back then.

BTW get off the Micheal Moore thing...no one here discussed him and to be frank I don't base any of my information on his films. I actually base my opin on facts and proof. That's how I learned to understand politics.

Just wondering, do you even realize that Canada is half a trillion dollar in debt compared to the 2.5 trillion USA debt? Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and show me who's more corrupt?

Wish I had a trillion dollars in my bank account. I could do a lot more good then some Politicians, backbenchers and lobbyists. But then, who knows how things will turn out...I mean you talk the big talk about lowered quality of life and you don't even know that the reason you have a quality of life is because of the Liberals in power. Check your history books and then comeback. till then, I will consider your opinion are based solely on emotion and uneducated misinformation.


Posted by disko-kandi on Aug-03-2004 06:22:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Why don't you look up how many Canadian soldiers have gone on U.N. peacekeeping missions since the 1990s: ZERO.






Peacekeeping Operations over the Years and Canada's Contribution:
1947-2002
~

http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/peacek...missions-en.asp


Posted by Cyrus King on Aug-03-2004 06:40:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
I can't believe how many otherwise intelligent people turn into completely crackpots when the subject of Bush comes up.

Yes, he's not the greatest president of all time.

Yes, his economic policy and public speaking skills suck large.

Yes, he's not the sharpest tool in the shed.

But a nationwide conspiracy? Faking terrorist threats to keep himself in office? Ok yeah, you really do have to be drunk or high to come up with that. One minute you're bashing Bush for how much of a moron he is, the next minute you're telling us he's capable of manipulating the entire American public into believing that foreign allies are really enemies � la 1984.

Which is it, folks? Is he a moron or a diabolical genius? Ya can't have it both ways. He can't be a slobbering ape *and* a criminal mastermind.

It's far more likely that he's just a typical, right-wing, conservative, patriotic American who loves his country but isn't really too bright when it comes to planning a nation, or really when it comes to anything else. I give you that he's pretty dumb, but most of the U.S. presidents have been pretty dumb.

Be careful of the left media that will spin any story to make a Republican look bad. They did the same thing with Reagan. Take a look at Clinton's track record though and you'll see that he was no saint either, and yet he hardly came under any scrutiny by the media. And since the American media didn't pay much attention to him, the Canadian media didn't have any juicy stories to rip off.

It's sad how Canadians need to constantly feed their egos by bashing Bush and the USA. They're not perfect but neither are we, and the fact that we just voted in the same Liberal government that essentially turned us into America Jr. really should bring to light the fact that we don't pay nearly enough attention to our OWN politics.

I don't know if it's an inferiority complex or what, but I'll tell you this: the most refreshing thing about being down in the USA is that Canada suddenly becomes utterly insignificant. They really don't give a flying fuck about what's up north. And yet we here in Canada seem to talk about the USA non-stop. Don't get me wrong, it's definitely a good thing to be educated in international politics but when I say educated I mean educated, not peddling fanatically strong opinions rooted in almost no fact whatsoever.

How many people here have studied the current political situation in the USA from NON-MEDIA sources? Let's hear it. There are new books and papers and essays coming out all the time from people who have done their homework - have any of you bothered to read them or do you just believe everything you hear from Bush-bashers?


The same people that are in power now (Bush and CO.) are the same people who helped concoct the 1991 "incubator baby 'Massacre' " that helped move PUBLIC opinion in FAVOR of going into Iraq during the first Gulf war. Essentially, a very well known public relations firm with the help of the givernment hired a young girl in her early teens, go infront of the international media and sob about the horror that she witnessed. She "witnessed" iraqi soldiers come into Kuwaiti hospitals and remove babies in their incubators and left to die on the cold floor.

What people didnt know at the time was that this young lady was the daughter of Kuwaits ambassador to the United states.

It was later revealed, after many millions of lives were lost in Iraq, that this was a sham. The young lady admitted to being hired and that she lied infront of the world!

Nevertheless, the Bush administration fueled this story in the media and in their argument FOR war knowing full well who the young lady was and what Hill and Knowlton were up to.

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHil...s-iraq-lie.html

The point im trying to make here is that the current administration (being the same one as the reaganite inspired administration during Bush Sr.'s presidency) are known to fully advocate this type of deception and then retract it by proclaiming they were "misinformed"

BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!

These people are LIARS and that has been proven more than once...umm where are those WMD that Bush said there was "UNDENIABLE PROOF" they existed in Iraq?? Oh yes... i forgot....the administration was "misinformed" as Orielly idiotically spews out every night on the Fox network.


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