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Posted by JM on Aug-13-2004 02:16:

Persian, Arab... etc. what's the distinction?

and what is the definition of each - what makes an Arab different from a Persian (if there is a difference) ?

Also,... Middle East and North Africa are areas where nations/countries' people are mainly Muslim in religion. How does Arabic (spoken/written) differ among those people... And how many different sub-relitions exist (if i may so call them) of the Muslim religion? Anybody shine some light on my few questions here?

thanks! I'm trying to get a little better understanding...
>JM<


Posted by Arbiter on Aug-13-2004 02:17:

There are no "official" definitions of any race or ethnicity. What it basically boils down to is that you are whatever you "consider yourself to be." There isn't any objective basis for the classifications, so there isn't any basis for disputing it.


Posted by Cyrus King on Aug-13-2004 02:18:

Re: Persian, Arab... etc. what's the distinction?

quote:
Originally posted by JM
and what is the definition of each - what makes an Arab different from a Persian (if there is a difference) ?

Also,... Middle East and North Africa are areas where nations/countries' people are mainly Muslim in religion. How does Arabic (spoken/written) differ among those people... And how many different sub-relitions exist (if i may so call them) of the Muslim religion? Anybody shine some light on my few questions here?

thanks! I'm trying to get a little better understanding...
>JM<


Can you make distinction between Turkish people and ARabs?

If you can, then replace Turks with persians.


Posted by Cyrus King on Aug-13-2004 02:24:

let me make a few more points.

Persians speak Farsi, Arabs speak Arabic. Farsi is a mixture of ancient Greek, Phoenenian and Arabic words.

Persians have different yet similar food music and culture.

Actually... our food is alot different from that of the Arabs.

Armenians are right in between Turkey and IRan and they too have a totally different language, food and religion.

hope this helped


Posted by JM on Aug-13-2004 02:26:

Re: Re: Persian, Arab... etc. what's the distinction?

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
Can you make distinction between Turkish people and ARabs?

If you can, then replace Turks with persians.


no, I couldn't tell the difference. My question was directed more towards the geographical areas of those regions, instead of the actual appearance of the people....

but i can spot a Russian from a mile away and tell him apart from the average euro-white person.



>JM<


Posted by Cyrus King on Aug-13-2004 02:32:

Re: Re: Re: Persian, Arab... etc. what's the distinction?

quote:
Originally posted by JM
no, I couldn't tell the difference. My question was directed more towards the geographical areas of those regions, instead of the actual appearance of the people....

but i can spot a Russian from a mile away and tell him apart from the average euro-white person.



>JM<


Have you heard persians speak and Arabs speak?

Our languages sound different...i even think many persians look different from their arab counterparts. But i guess that just observers bias in my eyes.

We are a versatile looking race though... you got persians that look very indian/pakistani in the very very south pakistani border.. and then as you progress upwards near the russian influences...they become more white (blue/green eyes/blonde light brown hair)

In the eastern part of the country, near afghanistan and The other ex-russian federation states... some persians look very mongolian.


But generally, persians look middle eastern (olive skin complection, dark hair and dark eyes)

You want to know what a persian woman looks like???? Watch Headline News and look at the beautiful woman named Rudy Bakhtiar


Posted by hardcore trancer on Aug-13-2004 02:53:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Persian, Arab... etc. what's the distinction?

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
Have you heard persians speak and Arabs speak?

Our languages sound different...i even think many persians look different from their arab counterparts. But i guess that just observers bias in my eyes.

We are a versatile looking race though... you got persians that look very indian/pakistani in the very very south pakistani border.. and then as you progress upwards near the russian influences...they become more white (blue/green eyes/blonde light brown hair)

In the eastern part of the country, near afghanistan and The other ex-russian federation states... some persians look very mongolian.


But generally, persians look middle eastern (olive skin complection, dark hair and dark eyes)

You want to know what a persian woman looks like???? Watch Headline News and look at the beautiful woman named Rudy Bakhtiar


mmmm Rudy FAP FAP FAP FAP


Posted by JM on Aug-13-2004 03:23:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Persian, Arab... etc. what's the distinction?

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
Have you heard persians speak and Arabs speak?

Our languages sound different...i even think many persians look different from their arab counterparts. But i guess that just observers bias in my eyes.

We are a versatile looking race though... you got persians that look very indian/pakistani in the very very south pakistani border.. and then as you progress upwards near the russian influences...they become more white (blue/green eyes/blonde light brown hair)

In the eastern part of the country, near afghanistan and The other ex-russian federation states... some persians look very mongolian.


But generally, persians look middle eastern (olive skin complection, dark hair and dark eyes)

You want to know what a persian woman looks like???? Watch Headline News and look at the beautiful woman named Rudy Bakhtiar


thanks for the explanations! i seriously sat down with my circular globe and took some mental notes.... as far as Persian women - i'll be blunt and say that many Middle Eastern women (the americanized/canadianized ones) that i've seen have been HOTT

>JM<


Posted by Cyrus King on Aug-13-2004 03:43:



i just had to


Posted by ZinG on Aug-13-2004 03:44:

runner ups for miss lebanon 2004
http://www.arasale.com/secure/ml/lamita/lamita1.htm


Posted by ZinG on Aug-13-2004 03:45:





i just had to


Posted by Cyrus King on Aug-13-2004 03:58:

I think Lebanese women are one of the hottest in the world


Posted by imokruok on Aug-13-2004 04:28:

Catherine Bell (the female lawyer in JAG) is also Persian. (Bell is her stage name). Mmmm....

In my own experiences, the word "Persian" is used to refer to those who left Iran before the revolution, or to those who remain in Iran and consider themselves revolutionaries. Iranians are Persians, but those who call themselves Persian first tend to do so because they'd rather identify with the culture than with the state.

Also, as others have mentioned, they don't speak Arabic. They speak Farsi. It's a really interesting language, as it's written like Arabic, but its sentence structure is more like European languages. I tried to learn a bit so that I could pick up some conversation with my distant relatives, and it wasn't too bad as long as you stay to the spoken form.

As for looks, I think Persians in general are a bit more fair skinned than Arabs. I am able to tell the difference most of the time, but there are just some certain features that tend to come from the Persian bloodline that you get used to seeing after a while.


Posted by JM on Aug-13-2004 05:27:

i'm liking this thread MORE and MORE and to top it all off, i think one of few positive and civil threads - hope keeps this way. thanks to all for your input.

woohoo!

>JM<


Posted by Cyrus King on Aug-13-2004 08:13:

Do you guys know who else was persian??? FREDDY MERCURY of Queen!!!!!!!

His first name was Farokh..but his classmates couldnt pronounce it so they called him "freddy" and it stuck through his life.


Posted by Shakka on Aug-13-2004 13:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
Do you guys know who else was persian??? FREDDY MERCURY of Queen!!!!!!!


Not even gonna touch that one. It almost looks like a set-up!


Posted by Cyrus King on Aug-13-2004 15:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
Not even gonna touch that one. It almost looks like a set-up!


LOL... i know...

But he is a legend though!


Posted by BadBadNeil on Aug-13-2004 15:34:

That news lady is pretty darn hot, never seen her before on tv though.


Posted by Superstar on Aug-13-2004 15:43:

Christiane Amanpour is another CNN journalist. But she's not hot like Bakhtiar.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Aug-13-2004 17:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
Do you guys know who else was persian??? FREDDY MERCURY of Queen!!!!!!!

His first name was Farokh..but his classmates couldnt pronounce it so they called him "freddy" and it stuck through his life.


hehe actually he is not,he is arabic,but I forgot from which country he was tho.


Posted by tranceaholic on Aug-13-2004 19:03:

well i am from egypt which is north africa...mostly a muslim country but i am roman catholic haha..arabic is different from farsi though i can catch a word here and there..arabs r fairly darker than persians...and persian chicks r hotter..we r very close in culture though...oh and lebanese chicks r the hottest anywhere..


Posted by Shakka on Aug-13-2004 19:43:

quote:
Originally posted by tranceaholic
well i am from egypt which is north africa...mostly a muslim country but i am roman catholic haha..arabic is different from farsi though i can catch a word here and there..arabs r fairly darker than persians...and persian chicks r hotter..we r very close in culture though...oh and lebanese chicks r the hottest anywhere..


Though they all have to be very careful about their mustaches and other...hair.


Posted by JM on Aug-13-2004 22:09:

quote:
Originally posted by tranceaholic
well i am from egypt which is north africa...mostly a muslim country but i am roman catholic haha..arabic is different from farsi though i can catch a word here and there..arabs r fairly darker than persians...and persian chicks r hotter..we r very close in culture though...oh and lebanese chicks r the hottest anywhere..


a Roman Catholic in Egypt ?

way to go!!!

(i guess you can call me a Roman Catholic)

>JM<


Posted by malek on Aug-13-2004 22:25:

I'm from Syria, majorly muslim, but I'm Christian Orthodox. My skin is pale(er) and people think i'm either Italian(95%) or Greek (4%). I speak arabic and my father speaks Syriac too. One of my grand parents is Armenian.

Syrian women are the hottest


Posted by ZinG on Aug-13-2004 22:47:

Lebanon is muslim 50% - 50% christians


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