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kernkraft 400...cheese?

new to trance world, trying to figure out what exactly it is you people call cheese. It would seem to me that cheese is the mainstream? I know kernkraft is old school, but i think its still fuckign hawt. What is the best mix you have heard?

Wooohaoahaooh ... Wooahaaaoohaaohaaaaaoh .. Waaahhoah Waaahoah

(Dave Clarke Remix)

Re: kernkraft 400...cheese?

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Originally posted by xstalkrx new to trance world, trying to figure out what exactly it is you people call cheese. It would seem to me that cheese is the mainstream? I know kernkraft is old school, but i think its still fuckign hawt. What is the best mix you have heard?

It's not only cheese, it's shit as well.

Overly simple ("borrowed") melody, simple arrangement, no depth or dynamics and the vocals are terrifyingly bad.

No wonder it went down so well to the masses.

I really liked Lazy Jones, the Commodore 64 game. Which in turn had a few borrowed melodies of its own

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Originally posted by fbgdavidson

generally, i dont think people that populate these forums know enough about electronic music to make an educated comment on this track.

Kernkraft 400 is a simple but effective track.. I dont think its really that cheese.. only downer is that the melody is ripped from a C64 game... and by that I mean RIPPED as hell!!!

just wondering.. has kerncraft 400 produced anything other than ZN?

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Originally posted by Peter K just wondering.. has kerncraft 400 produced anything other than ZN?

yes, they have one, if not more albums out on IDG

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Originally posted by speedracer_mec

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Originally posted by Peter K just wondering.. has kerncraft 400 produced anything other than ZN?

NO, since the producer is ZOMBIE NATION and the TRACK is KERNKRAFT 400. Why can't everybody get that?

I knew

x2

haha...did a close last weekend, big club and peoPLe stuck around.
Tried the Dave Clarke remix as an encore....
show us how u clear a joint. :blush:

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Originally posted by Laushinameee generally, i dont think people that populate these forums know enough about electronic music to make an educated comment on this track.

I wouldn't go that far. It just seems to be that people in these forums trash every electro song there is, a little open mindness wouldn't hurt.

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Originally posted by Sok I wouldn't go that far. It just seems to be that people in these forums trash every electro song there is, a little open mindness wouldn't hurt.

Yeah, it's like flipping a whole casino of coins.

Heck, you can say something's too simple... but then retread on that and argue for the beauty of minimalism -- in electro, in minimal techyness, Philip Glassland, etc.

I didn't particularly care for this track because, ESPECIALLY after tripping back to Lazy Jones and wondering why the melody sounded so familiar.

There is a very funny parody over at DI.fm titled "Zombie Nation 2004" here:

http://www.di.fm/forums/showthread....ighlight=zombie

It's by a guy who goes by the D&D-ish handle of The Drow.

I liked this one, it really stood out. Listen to it before you read the rest of the thread; it'll make you smile more.

Yeah they made a thread about the comedic genuis of rectum anus rectum anus over in the COR also.

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Originally posted by Radagast Yeah they made a thread about the comedic genuis of rectum anus rectum anus over in the COR also.

They did? Didn't see that one.

HAHAHA "Rectum anus", that's what it'll be called from now on

Can't think of a better name.

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Originally posted by Laushinameee generally, i dont think people that populate these forums know enough about electronic music to make an educated comment on this track.

OK so I put the same cheese graphic in the 'Is As The Rush Comes Cheese?' thread. I absolutely despise both of these tracks in particular, just seems you picked both of the tunes I would be glad NEVER to hear again!

PS. Love the picture of Chuck E Cheese

edited to say: add Divine Inspiration - 'The Way' onto that list too. Absolutely shocking excuse for a piece of EDM

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Originally posted by JulesPLees haha...did a close last weekend, big club and peoPLe stuck around. Tried the Dave Clarke remix as an encore.... show us how u clear a joint. :blush:

Doesn't that happen with all your sets JPL?

Only joking but I'm not surprised, I HATE this tune with a passion, it is frighteningly bad.

Cheese, maybe not. Bad, definitely

Another clearer is Plummett - Damaged. A Dj played this a few weeks ago after a TA DJ dropped a massive set, cleared the dancefloor in an instant.
And THAT tune is Cheese.

Love this tune. It's simple, but it's driving and effective and quite innovative mixing electro with trance. The DJ Gius Remix is the best for me.

Re: kernkraft 400...cheese?

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Originally posted by xstalkrx new to trance world, trying to figure out what exactly it is you people call cheese. It would seem to me that cheese is the mainstream? I know kernkraft is old school, but i think its still fuckign hawt. What is the best mix you have heard?

I don't care who remixes that track. I would never ever ever ever play that track. You are absolutely right about this track being the definition of cheese. It's right up there with Darude - Sandstorm.

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Originally posted by Sok I wouldn't go that far. It just seems to be that people in these forums trash every electro song there is, a little open mindness wouldn't hurt.

Don't get it twisted. I would have told you it was a good track 3 years ago, before it became a sporting event anthem. Same way Better Off Alone is a good track, but got played out. It's not a bad piece of production, but it was ruined by becoming so mainstream.

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