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Burning the flag

Does it anger you?

Personally, I could care less about flags right now. Simple symbols that stand for so much that I don't know nothing about, like many other citizens. But I know there are some that get upset. I would like to know why.

eh.... i guess it depends... sometimes it does

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Originally posted by ierxium Does it anger you? Personally, I could care less about flags right now. Simple symbols that stand for so much that I don't know nothing about, like many other citizens. But I know there are some that get upset. I would like to know why.

I don't think that it's right to do, but I would say that it's a matter of freedom of speech.

How about the gold fringe you see on many of the flags?

"The Admiralty Flag"


http://www.restoringamerica.org/fla...iralty_law.html

http://neworleans.indymedia.org/news/2004/07/1797.php

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/flag.htm

http://www.atgpress.com/kifap/know0004.htm

now thats cool.

i'm not about to go down and lick your sack or anything but quoting the Admiralty Flag is alright in my book.

that stuff is crammed down my throat (no pun intended) on a daily basis.

Go Navy.

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Originally posted by Q5echo now thats cool. i'm not about to go down and lick your sack or anything but quoting the Admiralty Flag is alright in my book. that stuff is crammed down my throat (no pun intended) on a daily basis. Go Navy.

please forgive me for my transgressions

Hows that saying go?

"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend with my life your right to say it!"

something like that...thats how i feel.

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Originally posted by jrbuddha Hows that saying go? "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend with my life your right to say it!" something like that...thats how i feel.

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Originally posted by jrbuddha Hows that saying go? "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend with my life your right to say it!" something like that...thats how i feel.

Great quote from Family Guy(I may paraphrase a bit):

Peter: "While I don't agree with a word you've said, I'll defend to the death your right to say it, sir!"

Insurance Salesman: "Touche!"

....or something like that...

I would be only upset I think if American's were burning our own flags. I see burning flags as a extremist symbolic gesture of third world countries so they can burn all day long! It really solves nothing in the end.

YEs.. It would really bother me the own citizens of a country burning the flag. As to the Third Wordl Country comments, IM sure there were plenty of french flags been burned here when French Opposed the war in Iraq. ( yes, there were burning flags )

I don't recall that, lot of things like naming French fries "freedom fries" and talking of banning wines but I never witnessed people burning flags.

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Originally posted by BadBadNeil I don't recall that, lot of things like naming French fries "freedom fries" and talking of banning wines but I never witnessed people burning flags.

i agree. i'm sure if there were people burning French flags, the media would be all over it. and not one instance that i've seen/heard of.

>JM<

I've always had a problem with people burning any country's flag. By burning the flag, you are burning everything, the country stands for and I view it as an extreme insult to that country.

I do remember something about French flags on fire. Don't know if it happen for certain though. probably was some comical comment.

Burning a flag is just an act of provocation or disapporval of whatever a country is doing. Both sides are stupid: one for thinking that burning a flag would cause any type of response or make any type of difference, and the other for responding feeling insulted, angered and so on for watching the flag of your country hugged by flames. If there was really respect for a flag, we would salute it every time we saw it. Not just when we were told to.

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Originally posted by Shakka Great quote from Family Guy(I may paraphrase a bit): Peter: "While I don't agree with a word you've said, I'll defend to the death your right to say it, sir!" Insurance Salesman: "Touche!" ....or something like that...

The quote is a bit older than The Family Guy...

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Originally posted by jrbuddha The quote is a bit older than The Family Guy...

Maybe, but it is the context in FG that makes is so funny to me.

Burning the flag is a crime in the US. Maybe not in third world countries...

Lol!
[[[smoke]]]

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Originally posted by smokeape Burning the flag is a crime in the US. Maybe not in third world countries... Lol! [[[smoke]]]

im pretty sure that people that have been arrested for burning the flag in protest of something have been taken it to court and won.

and the proper way to dispose of a flag that has been "retired" is to burn it i believe...

the thing that is a crime is desecrating the flag, which has also come under scrutiny in the courts.

why the hell would you care about a flag?

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Originally posted by ierxium Personally, I could care less about flags right now.

Glad to know you care.

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Originally posted by paranoik0 why the hell would you care about a flag?

Few reasons.
It is a symbolic gesture of one's country.

Did you see after 9/11 happened flags were draped on all the major buildings?

During the olympics the athletes cover themselves in their flags and sing while their flag is raised?

We take pride in the flag, hence, our national anthem talks about our flag in detail, we have flag day here in the states, we have a pledge of aliegence to the flag, etc.

I don't know about other countries but it does actually mean quite a bit here.

Burning a flag or desecrating a flag has been ruled as constitutionally protected free speech.

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Originally posted by Radagast Glad to know you care.

I like to stand out.

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Originally posted by BadBadNeil Few reasons. It is a symbolic gesture of one's country. Did you see after 9/11 happened flags were draped on all the major buildings? During the olympics the athletes cover themselves in their flags and sing while their flag is raised? We take pride in the flag, hence, our national anthem talks about our flag in detail, we have flag day here in the states, we have a pledge of aliegence to the flag, etc. I don't know about other countries but it does actually mean quite a bit here.

yes, here there was recently some kind of "fashion" to put flags on every house to "support portugal in euro2004 and the olympics" and everyone was a portugal fanatic and whatever. personally i'm absolutely sick of exagerated patriotism and people making a big deal out of national symbols like the flag. we're all humans, why take such pride in the divisions between humans such as nations? anyway i realise that burning flags is a bit of an offense, but it's not like it gets hurt and dies with an horrible pain in flames. you have the right to care, but personally i'd much rather care for things that matter over flags.

this is the type of torch i'd like to use to burn a few flags.

>JM<

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