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Posted by Trancer-X on Sep-17-2004 04:23:

Excerpts From Interview With President Bush

I forgot all about this interview. Sure, Diane repeatedly asks THE question - and it repeatedly goes unanswered.


excerpt:


WMD Intelligence


DIANE SAWYER: Fifty percent of the American people have said that they think the administration exaggerated the evidence going into the war with Iraq, weapons of mass destruction, connection to terrorism. Are the American people wrong? Misguided?

PRESIDENT BUSH: The intelligence I operated one was good sound intelligence, the same intelligence that my predecessor operated on. The � there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein was a threat. The � otherwise the United Nations might � wouldn't a passed, you know, resolution after resolution after resolution, demanding that he disarm. ... I first went to the United Nations, September the 12th, 2002, and said you've given this man resolution after resolution after resolution. He's ignoring them. You step up and see that he honor those resolutions. Otherwise you become a feckless debating society. ... And so for the sake of peace and for the sake of freedom of the Iraqi people, for the sake of security of the country, and for the sake of the credibility of institu � in � international institutions, a group of us moved, and the world is better for it.

DIANE SAWYER: But let me try to ask � this could be a long question. ... ... When you take a look back, Vice President Cheney said there is no doubt, Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction, not programs, not intent. There is no doubt he has weapons of mass destruction. Secretary Powell said 100 to 500 tons of chemical weapons and now the inspectors say that there's no evidence of these weapons existing right now. The yellow cake in Niger, in Niger. George Tenet has said that shouldn't have been in your speech. Secretary Powell talked about mobile labs. Again, the intelligence � the inspectors have said they can't confirm this, they can't corroborate.

PRESIDENT BUSH: Yet.

DIANE SAWYER: � an active �

PRESIDENT BUSH: Yet.

DIANE SAWYER: Is it yet?

PRESIDENT BUSH: But what David Kay did discover was they had a weapons program, and had that, that � let me finish for a second. Now it's more extensive than, than missiles. Had that knowledge been examined by the United Nations or had David Kay's report been placed in front of the United Nations, he, he, Saddam Hussein, would have been in material breach of 1441, which meant it was a causis belli. And look, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein was a dangerous person, and there's no doubt we had a body of evidence proving that, and there is no doubt that the president must act, after 9/11, to make America a more secure country.

DIANE SAWYER: Again, I'm just trying to ask, these are supporters, people who believed in the war who have asked the question.

PRESIDENT BUSH: Well, you can keep asking the question and my answer's gonna be the same. Saddam was a danger and the world is better off cause we got rid of him.

DIANE SAWYER: But stated as a hard fact, that there were weapons of mass destruction as opposed to the possibility that he could move to acquire those weapons still �

PRESIDENT BUSH: So what's the difference?

DIANE SAWYER: Well �

PRESIDENT BUSH: The possibility that he could acquire weapons. If he were to acquire weapons, he would be the danger. That's, that's what I'm trying to explain to you. A gathering threat, after 9/11, is a threat that needed to be de � dealt with, and it was done after 12 long years of the world saying the man's a danger. And so we got rid of him and there's no doubt the world is a safer, freer place as a result of Saddam being gone.

DIANE SAWYER: But, but, again, some, some of the critics have said this combined with the failure to establish proof of, of elaborate terrorism contacts, has indicated that there's just not precision, at best, and misleading, at worst.

PRESIDENT BUSH: Yeah. Look � what � what we based our evidence on was a very sound National Intelligence Estimate. ...

DIANE SAWYER: Nothing should have been more precise?

PRESIDENT BUSH: What � I, I � I made my decision based upon enough intelligence to tell me that this country was threatened with Saddam Hussein in power.

DIANE SAWYER: What would it take to convince you he didn't have weapons of mass destruction?

PRESIDENT BUSH: Saddam Hussein was a threat and the fact that he is gone means America is a safer country.

DIANE SAWYER: And if he doesn't have weapons of mass destruction [inaudible] �

PRESIDENT BUSH: Diane, you can keep asking the question. I'm telling you � I made the right decision for America �

DIANE SAWYER: But-

PRESIDENT BUSH: � because Saddam Hussein used weapons of mass destruction, invaded Kuwait. ... But the fact that he is not there is, means America's a more secure country.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/prim...s_1_031216.html


Posted by josh4 on Sep-17-2004 16:35:

I hate Bush interviews. I always cringe at how dumb he sounds and say 'this is the man running our country?!'


Posted by Ondrayce on Sep-17-2004 17:40:

I hope Kerry has the balls to go after him in the debates. Bush is an incoherant child when it comes to actually speaking about issues. If Kerry goes on and on about war records, like Gore went on and on about lock-boxes, he's gonna lose to this idiot too.


Diane Sawyer for President!!!


Posted by eternity on Sep-17-2004 18:33:

yeah! lets post more stories from the web. like you don't have a mind of your own no wonder you support Kerry.


Posted by Trancer-X on Sep-17-2004 18:39:

quote:
Originally posted by eternity
yeah! lets post more stories from the web. like you don't have a mind of your own no wonder you support Kerry.


Awfully presuming aren't we? Like you know anything about my mind? Like you really know anything about Bush's mind. I would put good money on the fact that my cognition and discernment far exceeds our C- student of a president.


It's only to help you broaden your narrow mind.

I'm sorry for messing with your blinders.

It's amazing how noone is ever really able to justify any of Bush's actions... his followers just continue to (blindly) follow.


Posted by Trancer-X on Sep-17-2004 18:47:

quote:
Originally posted by eternity
yeah! lets post more stories from the web. like you don't have a mind of your own no wonder you support Kerry.


BTW - I'm just getting started


Posted by matty on Sep-18-2004 08:21:

Ummmm, errrrrrrrrr, Diane, errrrrr, quit asking me this question..

Hahahaha....what a dumb fuck


Posted by NYCTrancefan on Sep-18-2004 10:22:

More like "Interview with a Moron" and amazingly this numbskull stands a chance of being elected as president again, makes me wonder. Like typically arrogant leaders he has no choice but to continue to repeat his facetious terms whenever asked questions about WMDs, I would have also asked him why is there no security in Iraq, why is there no stablity, what is your exit strategy for Iraq, why after 18 months U.S. Soldiers are still being blown up and killed. Mark my words George W. Bush has led this nation down a path that I regret we will not realize its damage for many years to come. Way to go America, we bring freedom and democracy to Iraq Who the hell are we to think that it is our sole task Mr. George W. Bush, pure utter arrogance indeed.


Posted by LiquidX on Sep-18-2004 13:10:

quote:
Originally posted by eternity
yeah! lets post more stories from the web. like you don't have a mind of your own no wonder you support Kerry.


Allright, I had thought I know the most ignorant person in the board, but you definetly won the prize..

And if you didnt know, Diana Swayer is one of the most respected reporters in the Journalistic circuit and media .


Posted by AnotherWay83 on Sep-18-2004 15:48:

its funny how everytime proof of bush's idiocy ie, something like this, gets posted the bush supporters try to dismiss it as internet rumor or sumthing lol...


Posted by Trancer-X on Sep-18-2004 17:15:

quote:
Originally posted by LiquidX
Allright, I had thought I know the most ignorant person in the board, but you definetly won the prize..


It's okay.

The minions will continue to infer that I have no mind of my own, but if you look at the broader picture you can't help but see the irony in their statements.

I'm the one researching topics from numerous sources - as opposed to taking everything that's fed to me at face value by our duplicitous administration.



quote:
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use."

- Galileo


quote:
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds."

- Einstein


Posted by Massive84 on Sep-18-2004 21:24:

SOMEONE ENLIGHTEN ME

How the fuck can iraq be a danger to the USA, since a scud missle can't even reach spain or france.

Also, even if he wants to shoot, the scud launcher gets bombed in matter of mins.

funny where is policerobot or the ohter bush whores?


Posted by BadBadNeil on Sep-18-2004 22:15:

haha the bush bashers are out in force this evening


Posted by Q5echo on Sep-18-2004 22:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Massive84
SOMEONE ENLIGHTEN ME
How the fuck can iraq be a danger to the USA, since a scud missle can't even reach spain or france.

all countries in that region, not just Iraq, deserve better than what they have had to deal with in terms of dealing with Saddam and his sons. Jordan is a better place for it now. Israel is abetter place for it. even Iran.

i'm not saying there is not more that needs to be done but without Saddam's influence, the greater middle east has one less problem to deal with towards the goal of moderation. these goals reach well past this adminitration and well into the next generation.

it is hard to see a goal like that given the middle east's past no matter how far in the future you look. but i think if you look far enough and have the true will of all free peoples of the world working together, it's an inevitability.

no men but the extremist want to die for something like this. thats why it hurts so much. thats why this is so difficult.

but the moderate Muslim needs to be put in a position to tell his fellow Muslims that this is madness. it has to stop. the gold thats beneath their feet will not last forever. it will only be there long enough to cement their place in history for the next generation that will not have it to live in peace later.


Posted by Massive84 on Sep-19-2004 07:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
all countries in that region, not just Iraq, deserve better than what they have had to deal with in terms of dealing with Saddam and his sons. Jordan is a better place for it now. Israel is abetter place for it. even Iran.


Cool something to discuss

well you mention Iran, i find this funny, since the war on Iran was funded by the US.

Now the US it self wants to strike Iran, and they claim they have Nuclear bombs.

So who is the bigger danger? Bush ? or Saddam?

sorry in my books, Nuclear pwns Chemical

Every nation near Isreal is a danger, Isreal just asking for this.

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
it is hard to see a goal like that given the middle east's past no matter how far in the future you look. but i think if you look far enough and have the true will of all free peoples of the world working together, it's an inevitability.


As much as i want to see this happen like you, i think it wont happen if the term "money" stays. The world is not divided fairly and the ones that have more money have more power. but who knowns right?

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
but the moderate Muslim needs to be put in a position to tell his fellow Muslims that this is madness. it has to stop. the gold thats beneath their feet will not last forever. it will only be there long enough to cement their place in history for the next generation that will not have it to live in peace later.


I agree, but few things must be solved first before you see this happening, you know for example. In Isreal if a muslim says hey stop the hatred, the other will just reply, Israel killed my child so no thanks. and this mite go for Iraq as well now?

Hey Nell, why shouldn't we bash Bush?


Posted by Trancer-X on Sep-19-2004 22:31:

quote:
Originally posted by BadBadNeil
haha the bush bashers are out in force this evening



Posted by hardcore trancer on Sep-19-2004 22:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X



AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAH look at him!!! lmao


Posted by NYCTrancefan on Sep-19-2004 22:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X


Iraq's just a box a chocolates
Hey even Forrest Gump served, as opposed to the chickenhawk G.W. Bush who was busy doing who knows what, National Guard my fanny. I wouldn't term any criticism of Bush in the current atmosphere as bashing, simply seeing an idiot for what it is. Take heed though my fellow American's he may yet be re-elected in November and we can continue down the path of war, excessive spending through our asses, low wage job creations, oh and we will still be pursuing peace and democracy neocon style in Iraq, with the blood of young Americans. All in all he is doing a marvelous job for our nation though 4 more years, 4 more years, 4 more years, for what I wonder, to finally bring that Mission Accomplished to fruition, to bring the very elusive peace and security that was promised before the War, to give Halliburton more contracts,

We are in the middle of a shitstorm in Iraq, too bad the American public is so badly informed of events on the ground through the national media and heaven forbid the local media, its times like these I am glad I have the internet that allows me to see many viewpoints of Iraq and not just Faux news and its Oil for Food scandal reports.


Posted by BadBadNeil on Sep-19-2004 22:57:

thinking that Kerry will magically fix all the world's problems is being a bit naive as well.

How will Kerry fix Iraq?

How will Kerry solve the worlds problems?

How will Kerry fix our medicare system?

Will Kerry raise our taxes even higher?

How will Kerry magically end the deficit?

How will Kerry fix the trade gabs that have plagued us?

How will he fix our energy crisis?

How will he bring jobs back to America vs. being shipped overseas?

How will he win the war on terror?

this is just the tip of the iceberg. As much as Bush is hated I haven't seen any concrete ways of solving any problems from Kerry's mouth. He talks an awful lot about how bad Bush is or has been but to offer no solutions just doesn't make him a viable candidate from what I see.


Posted by Q5echo on Sep-20-2004 02:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Massive84
Cool something to discuss

well you mention Iran, i find this funny, since the war on Iran was funded by the US.

Now the US it self wants to strike Iran, and they claim they have Nuclear bombs.

So who is the bigger danger? Bush ? or Saddam?

sorry in my books, Nuclear pwns Chemical

Every nation near Isreal is a danger, Isreal just asking for this.

Israel, Jordan and Iran were random examples of countries benefitting from the removal of Saddam.

we have been fighting Iran officialy since 1979. no one doubts the core of Islamic fundamentalism (the fundamentalism we are at struggle with today) exists in that country. and i don't think any educated person denies that we have a justified beef alone with that country. hence Saddam Hussein. we supported his efforts along with many others, in putting Iran country in its place. did it work? yes and no. but is evidenced in the position they are in now. unchecked or an isolationist attitude towards them in the crucial early years of the Ayatollah i think would have put us in a serious situation much earlier and would have distracted the world from a Europe we enjoy today.

the perspective i describe is of the people's not the mullahs'.

you seem to be under the assumption that the U.S. about to forego all of the current diplomatic efforts enabled by France, Germany, and Britain and re-establish the Bush Doctrine again. there have been absolutely no indications of that and to me that does not make sense right now barring a catastrophe. so its obvious that Bush is safer.



quote:
As much as i want to see this happen like you, i think it wont happen if the term "money" stays. The world is not divided fairly and the ones that have more money have more power. but who knowns right?

free people realize their potential more readily. Iraq has more potential than all Muslem countries. time and extremism are their only obstacles. my country is responsible for that. that is something i am not ashamed of, i don't think any American should be. imagine if all free people weren't.


Posted by Q5echo on Sep-20-2004 03:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Massive84

well you mention Iran, i find this funny, since the war on Iran was funded by the US.


Saddam had more than enough means to fund his own war. those were French and Waraw Pact machines he used on the battlefield.

to be honest, we provided more weapons to Iran than Iraq. in addition to false intelligence and a myriad of other dis-information.


Posted by trancaholic on Sep-20-2004 06:00:

quote:
Originally posted by BadBadNeil
As much as Bush is hated I haven't seen any concrete ways of solving any problems from Kerry's mouth. He talks an awful lot about how bad Bush is or has been but to offer no solutions just doesn't make him a viable candidate from what I see.

Isn't it more of a question of preventing Bush from creating more problems? If you have to choose between two options, neither of which makes things better, at least choose the one who seems more likely not to worsen things.


Posted by sensorium on Sep-20-2004 07:23:

I don't deny Bush is "slow" to react but that's not the whole issue. If Bush is dumb, then so is a large amount of people who voted for him close to 4 years ago. It's only a premise, not an insult.

It is known that a person in power will never be honest to his people, it's an unwritten requisite. Interviewers(those who actually take their job seriously) know that. Presidents will only give you a cordial smile and the words you want to hear, similar to what a teenager working at Burger King is required to do.


Posted by BadBadNeil on Sep-20-2004 13:51:

quote:
Originally posted by trancaholic
Isn't it more of a question of preventing Bush from creating more problems? If you have to choose between two options, neither of which makes things better, at least choose the one who seems more likely not to worsen things.


I think of it like a house.

You have bush, your current house, you've had it a very years and it has developed a few problems but the foundation isn't weak, mostly cosmetic damage. It's overall a sturdy home that has weathered some pretty large storms. He has some termites trying to ruin the structure but he is doing his best to control them without destroying the home itself even if it costs more in the long run.

Then you have Kerry, a new home that you have seen from the outside but have never been inside of and don't have an inspection on. Basically what you see is what you get and the problems that may come from it although your first house has its own problems, may be much worse.


Posted by xKaoSx on Sep-20-2004 14:19:

quote:
Originally posted by BadBadNeil
I think of it like a house.

You have bush, your current house, you've had it a very years and it has developed a few problems but the foundation isn't weak, mostly cosmetic damage. It's overall a sturdy home that has weathered some pretty large storms. He has some termites trying to ruin the structure but he is doing his best to control them without destroying the home itself even if it costs more in the long run.

Then you have Kerry, a new home that you have seen from the outside but have never been inside of and don't have an inspection on. Basically what you see is what you get and the problems that may come from it although your first house has its own problems, may be much worse.


But he lied about his income to get the loan- his dad fudged his credit report and he has mortgaged the house 2 times already.

Usually when your credit sucks- things get taken away from you.


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