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DJs who have abandoned vinyl..

Now we all remember Sasha's proclamation.. and more recently Dave Clarke.. Just curious who else is doing this?

This was posted by Max Graham on an Ottawa board promoting his monthly night @ Helsinki..

"another night of madness coming up...and i have the friday off if you know what i mean...
oh and i didn't lose my records last time, im all cd these days. makes so much more sense for a touring dj like myself..."

when asked if this saves him from carrying backbreaking vinyl he responds..

"theres so many reasons...yeah im bringing my own 1000, can't handle those 100's ...such toy's "


Now I'm not all that interested in debating the pros & cons.. there is the argument that buying mp3's gives more back to the actual artist, yadayada.. but ya.. what other djs have been ConverteD to CD?

Alec

i think zabiela is mostly using cds

Jonh '00' Fleming has converted to CD. Armin van Buuren and Ferry Corsten are about 90% CD.

It makes sense for the touring DJ, since they hardly ever paid for tracks to begin with. And obviously you dont need to worry about losing your tracks, you can just re-burn them.

For a local DJ from NA, its still better. If you happen to have a gig coming up and one of your favourite tunes was just released, you can simply purchase it and download it from an mp3 site for a couple bucks and you can play it that night. You dont have to order it, wait 2-3 weeks, and pay $15-20 after taxes and shipping. And also, some labels are not pressing some tracks to vinyl. The only way to get them is to buy the mp3. Some people say the sound quality is not as good, but its barely noticeable. Most sites offer a 320kbps bitrate on files.

And if you like an unsigned amateur production that someone posts here in the production section, you can just download it and burn it. It might never get signed, but you can still play it.

Vinyl is the spirit of djing....
I really don't understand anyone switching to cd
Dont u look stoopid when u arrive with ure cd case????
Its a shame so much dj are switching, fuking money

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Originally posted by Assassin You dont have to order it, wait 2-3 weeks

no way dude.. fed ex!
Order into Juno in the AM, records in my hand at 3 pm the next day.. I tried the snail mail thing.. but the anticipation is enough to kill me.. hehe

But anyway.. I do understand the arguments on both sides.. one thing I will point out, which doesn't matter to 95% of the patrons since they aren't paying attention anyway... is that there is a certain excitement with taking out a record and cueing it up on the deck, which, in my opinion.. is in no way duplicated with pulling out some cd and inserting it into a cdj.
In that case he may as well play a mixed cd and no one would practically be the wiser.

on another note.. Final Scratch 2 looks dope.. check it!
Final Scratch 2
*drools*

How will it save space to brings cds but then lug around 2 cdj 1000s with you? I know most big clubs have em, but some of the smaller ones don't

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Originally posted by alec How will it save space to brings cds but then lug around 2 cdj 1000s with you? I know most big clubs have em, but some of the smaller ones don't

hahaha.. ya.. kind of ironic.
Anyway.. I'm sure Max *usually* plays in clubs that do carry them.. so I am just assuming in this case it's for 'the so many other reasons' he prefers cds..

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Originally posted by malek i think zabiela is mostly using cds

werd.. the name Zabiela is practically synonomous with Pioneer CDJ-1000!

DJs shouldnt have to carry around 1000s. If its in their rider, then its up to the club to provide them. Renting a pair of 1000s for a night for an international DJ is pennies considering how many people will be out to see him.

I agree, but last time I saw max at helsinki he was using 100s, don't ask me how, but he was!

this one is a nice digital player too.

wheres the needle man????
i personnaly like to play with both, but i order everything i have on mp3 or almost
cause whats the deal with making tracks and not pressing them
ure gonna give em for free???????
i really dont understand such djs who press some tracks then stop playing vinyls

cds are great for promos n shit

but i mean theres this crazy interaction wit the crowd wen a dj does a backspin or hes fine tuning,,,,

wtvr, there both goo in moderation and i shuld save up to buy a cdj... so many possibilities

I stopped buying vinyls not only because it is WAY too expensive but because I can play much more different stuff burning cds...plus i can play all of my tracks.

I will always love the feel of vinyl but i think there is more possibilities with cds....imo

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Originally posted by Jpx I stopped buying vinyls not only because it is WAY too expensive but because I can play much more different stuff burning cds...plus i can play all of my tracks. I will always love the feel of vinyl but i think there is more possibilities with cds....imo

the new dvd players from pioneer are AMAZING... you should tryem out

so hot

c peurf grave

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Originally posted by Mekroon Vinyl is the spirit of djing.... I really don't understand anyone switching to cd Dont u look stoopid when u arrive with ure cd case???? Its a shame so much dj are switching, fuking money

omen to that brotha

^^^ it's really not looked down upon anymore - its changed a lot in the last couple of years
Many of the top touring DJs (some of whom have already been mentioned in this thread) tour with the majority of their tunes on CD.
If you don't understand why people would switch, then you've probably never gone on a solo 3 week tour involving dozens of flights, while having to lug around 2 record bags filled with vinyl. If you can replace that with one bag, with a small selection of records and a wallet or two of CDs, why wouldnt you?
It isn't uncommon anymore for DJs to own a copy of a track on vinyl, but also rip themselves another copy to CD for touring.

lugging around those cases is what keeps djs strong!

CD DJs

Ok well i have mixed feelings here.

I can understand why DJs want to lighten the load. I can also understand the appeal of being able to have a track sent to you while on tour virtually anywhere in the world.

My problem with CD DJs are:

- the showman factor....vinyl is much more mysterious these days considering only DJs use it. It kind of adds to the aura of a DJ when he is using vinyl, especially since it's hands on and you can watch everything the DJ does with it. CDs are buttons and everybody presses buttons. It's like watching artists with a paintbrush and then watching an artist on photoshop. It's just not the same thing.

- tricks. The only Dj i can really respect for using almost all CDs is James Zabiela because at least he puts them to use. His on the fly remixes and special effects that can essentially only be done with CDs. ANd he does use vinyl at times when he has to do manual tricks that cannot be performed by CD. I find most CD DJs however are boring as hell. Straight mixing a CD into the next. I realise that technology allows many of the same tricks to be done as vinyl now such as spinbacks etc but its still not as warm and tactile as the real thing.

- Local DJs - (your local neighbourhood basement DJ variety) more and more these seem to be download DJs. This takes away from the small record companies. Most of their profit used to be from amatuer DJs buying their copies in the local record shop. The prolifieration of CDJ technology has allowed these basement DJs who get the odd gig at the local bar to download everything instead. Thus, no cost, no vinyl and straight profit (even if its only $50).. To me this cheapens the profession emmensly. And it doesn't stop there. I know of many DJs you hear on Toronto radio that use downloads but I won't mention any names.

Conclusion - CDs are fine if you really have to and have its benefits but vinyl is a much better medium if you are a professional

Jayx1 the guy who complains about everything on TOTA

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Originally posted by Jayx1 - Local DJs - (your local neighbourhood basement DJ variety) more and more these seem to be download DJs. This takes away from the small record companies. Most of their profit used to be from amatuer DJs buying their copies in the local record shop. The prolifieration of CDJ technology has allowed these basement DJs who get the odd gig at the local bar to download everything instead. Thus, no cost, no vinyl and straight profit (even if its only $50).. To me this cheapens the profession emmensly. And it doesn't stop there. I know of many DJs you hear on Toronto radio that use downloads but I won't mention any names.

I think downloading a track from the label directly or from sites like audiojelly and beatport puts MORE money into the hands of the small labels/artists. They eliminate the middle man. Theres no risk of over pressing, or underpressing a release. A DJ never has to worry about the track being out of stock, and the DJ gets instant gratification.

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Originally posted by Assassin I think downloading a track from the label directly or from sites like audiojelly and beatport puts MORE money into the hands of the small labels/artists. They eliminate the middle man. Theres no risk of over pressing, or underpressing a release. A DJ never has to worry about the track being out of stock, and the DJ gets instant gratification.

ya i tend to lean this way. i think the MP3 is a tremendous opportunity for artists to put money in their pocket and eliminate alot of waste in production.

final scratch it tha shizzle

ya seriously whats wrong with final sctrach, cheaper, slimmer, and u still have the vinyl touch to it. Whats the big deal with CDJs

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