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how to record your mix??

right now I have a line out cable from my rane mixer going into my laptop soundcard via the 3.5mm port.( no special soundcard; factory original). I am using roxio easy cd creator software to record my mixes ( specifically the Sound Editor program).


I have been getting complaints that my recorded mixes have very faint sqweaking noises throughout and I was told it could be how I record the mix. so is my set up the cause of the sh!tty audio quality?

what do you recommend I get? should I ditch the laptop and buy a recorder? if so, which one???


Many thanks,

Dave

Soundforge 6.0 will do the trick

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Originally posted by Tiger777 Soundforge 6.0 will do the trick

Is this the best program to get?

Most of the people here use it and you've got many many options and effects. It saves into any filetype... so yeah, it's prolly the best you can get.

Seems that's not too bad. Allthough it does seem a bit like you're listening to it from the hall... This could be that you're 'clipping'. Try turning down the record output volume of your mixer.

Could be your MP3 encoder or it could be your soundcard... I suggest you try soundforge. If you still get bad quality, it's the soundcard...

is there a external recording thing I could use that provides the same high recording quality as sound forge?

a CD recorder. But those are pretty expensive machines...

MD's don't give an alternative since the sound quality isn't too good.

mAudio mBox does the trick

How much is soundforge?

Keith

im using cakewalk pyro 2004. been very happy. records to wav, but then you can convert it to mp3 or wma. it has some filters, fxs, eqs and stuff. and its 40 bucks at sam ash. as for if you clipping, what i do is turn the gain to half and then pump the output and input volume to get the volume i want.

Im not clipping. I always keep my levels in the green (0db). Im using a rane MP44 club mixer.


I did resave my mp3 files at a highest sample and compression rate and I noticed it sounds better. However, I still hear very minor sweaking.

Im not sure if its my needles or this cheap sound card or cheap program.

OK I just soo pissed with this shitty laptop and program that I am willing to drop a good deal of $$$ to get the best external recorder. What is the best external recorder that saves mixes as MP3 files?

Getting a better recording software may help but I think the biggest problem is that you are using not only an oem soundcard, but a laptop one. This are total crap. I would get some kind of quality external soundcard and record to that using a decent program.

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Originally posted by auujay Getting a better recording software may help but I think the biggest problem is that you are using not only an oem soundcard, but a laptop one. This are total crap. I would get some kind of quality external soundcard and record to that using a decent program.

do you have any recommendations?

for the cost of a new sound card wouldnt it be worth it if I just bought an external recorder?? are there any good external recorders worth buying that can make MP3 files?


I would prefer to buy something external than trying to install the soundcard in my laptop. Any advice?

You may want to look into this:


http://www.pogoproducts.com/ripdrive.html

I have an older version that only has 256Megs, and I love it. I can't speak for sure about these newer models, but I'd imagine they'd be great.

Kiragan

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Originally posted by Kiragan You may want to look into this: http://www.pogoproducts.com/ripdrive.html I have an older version that only has 256Megs, and I love it. I can't speak for sure about these newer models, but I'd imagine they'd be great. Kiragan

I would get an external sound card like the mAudio mBox over something like this. I used to use my Nomad Jukebox for recording and it worked but these don't have great quality AD converters. These days you should be able to get a quality 24 bit external soundcard for not too much. I don't use one so I can't recommend a specific model.

Dave, don't be so eager to drop your hard earned cash on some hardware yet, when it just might be that program your using, or your not setting up your windows audio mixer properly. I have Sound Forge 7.0b, Wavelab, and Audition, which is what you should be using for recording. These are dedicated recording programs, and will beat any cd burner proggies. You can download trial versions and give them a test drive and see if they fix it. Also, you can still get clipping when your in the green on your mixer...could be your audio in gain in the windows mixer is up to high. fool with the settings and those prgrams first...you might just save yourself some money, and spend it on fresh vinyl instead.

i record to DAT .....i always worried of comp hang or some other comp isssue.....

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Originally posted by Dave Piazza I did resave my mp3 files at a highest sample and compression rate and I noticed it sounds better. However, I still hear very minor sweaking.

Wait, are you saying you compressed your mp3 again? Double compression is only gonna make it sound worse...

I opened the MP3 file in the Roxio sound Editor program. I than saved the file under a new name but lowered by compression settings to 96 and lowered the sample rate to 32. I noticed that the annoying sqweaking noise vanished. However, the sound qaulity is not as "bright" and "warm" as before.


I did buy an external sound card to record my future mixes. This is what I bought:


http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...0&sku=X155-1004

have you used it yet? how does it sound? I read some reviews on it, they are ok, but not the best either..

Jay

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Originally posted by veezee have you used it yet? how does it sound? I read some reviews on it, they are ok, but not the best either.. Jay

Once I recieve it ill let you all know.

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Originally posted by Dave Piazza I opened the MP3 file in the Roxio sound Editor program. I than saved the file under a new name but lowered by compression settings to 96 and lowered the sample rate to 32. I noticed that the annoying sqweaking noise vanished. However, the sound qaulity is not as "bright" and "warm" as before.

Compressing an already compressed file is going to make it sound terrible. You need to compress the original WAV file, which is not compressed.



This card looks nice: http://www.echoaudio.com/Products/C...igoIO/index.php

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Originally posted by cheesy Compressing an already compressed file is going to make it sound terrible. You need to compress the original WAV file, which is not compressed.

I miss spoke. I meant to say I opened the orginal WAV file and saved it under a different name with different setting.

i've found that it's usually unwise to record a mix using the mic input on a laptop unless it's a mac and has a specific line-in jack. if you want to record your mixes on a laptop, i would strongly advise getting an external sound card. Another option that i would suggest, is dropping a little bit of money of a small desktop dedicated to record and editing your mixes. i have one that i use only for recording and editing, but i use the hard-drive as storage for movies that i've ripped or other backup...

you can buy a realtime CD burner, but those are pricey, and not very practical

you can record to a mini-disc via the mic jack, but again, the sound quality will be shite...

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Originally posted by keithos27 How much is soundforge? Keith

Free. Just goto the "store."

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